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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:51:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Take 'em, don't even give me aurum back for them. Maybe my example will further along some kind of sensibility among the community and the forums will no longer be land fill for "class action lawsuit" threats.
Albeit.. Uhh... Lemme keep the Templar set.. Paid a lot of money for dems... The rest you can donate to the homeless on Caldari Prime.
Edit: Also using this as a measure to further along the idea of making BPO's permanent skins that still require ISK cost. Doesn't work for modules but hey, they need never have existed in the first place.
How about you keep stuff you paid for, and kick off when someone tries to take it away from you?
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2269
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Posted - 2013.11.23 20:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Take 'em, don't even give me aurum back for them. Maybe my example will further along some kind of sensibility among the community and the forums will no longer be land fill for "class action lawsuit" threats.
Albeit.. Uhh... Lemme keep the Templar set.. Paid a lot of money for dems... The rest you can donate to the homeless on Caldari Prime.
Edit: Also using this as a measure to further along the idea of making BPO's permanent skins that still require ISK cost. Doesn't work for modules but hey, they need never have existed in the first place. How about you keep stuff you paid for, and kick off when someone tries to take it away from you? Not like I'm not getting my money back. More boosters.
And if CCP one day decides that boosters affect game balance, and removes them with an aurum refund, I suppose you'll be fine with that?
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:42:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Take 'em, don't even give me aurum back for them. Maybe my example will further along some kind of sensibility among the community and the forums will no longer be land fill for "class action lawsuit" threats.
Albeit.. Uhh... Lemme keep the Templar set.. Paid a lot of money for dems... The rest you can donate to the homeless on Caldari Prime.
Edit: Also using this as a measure to further along the idea of making BPO's permanent skins that still require ISK cost. Doesn't work for modules but hey, they need never have existed in the first place. How about you keep stuff you paid for, and kick off when someone tries to take it away from you? Not like I'm not getting my money back. More boosters. And if CCP one day decides that boosters affect game balance, and removes them with an aurum refund, I suppose you'll be fine with that? I've been advocating for an ISK option since the game started, don't believe me you're more than welcome to browse my post history back to June of 2012.
That isn't what I asked. Would you defend CCP with the same arguments if, instead of BPOs, they were forcibly removing boosters instead?
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2275
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:11:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:
That isn't what I asked. Would you defend CCP with the same arguments if, instead of BPOs, they were forcibly removing boosters instead?
It doesn't matter how I answer, you're fishing for a way to express your opinion rather than argument that may sway your opinion. That much was readily apparent when you used the words "forcibly removing". Here's the facts: The only BPOs being removed are legacy items that aren't going to be available on the market either for Aurum or ISK because they simply won't exist anymore. 180mm Plates, for instance, are gone as of 1.7. There's no reason to have them anymore because all they'd do is offset the balance in the game when they're going through hoops to fix the vehicles that everyone bitched about (even though we've got more pressing issues, imo). Trying to compare removal of BPO's for balance reasons over removing boosters isn't nearly the same argument. Fact of the matter is that they're refunding you the aurum you spent on it and the BPOs are being removed because the items they've based on don't exist anymore - clamoring for reform, starting forum wars and threadnaughts isn't going to change that. Further more, you signed the EULA the second you logged into your account in-game which allows them the right to change, modify or otherwise remove the content - even if you don't agree with it. So would I defend CCP with the same arguments? **** yes I would and I would do it proudly because I support creative design. This isn't like The War Z (now known as Infestation: Survival Stories) in which they started banning people left and right because of negative feedback; they're going forward with their game and the only legitimate argument anyone has in this case is that they're taking away their silly virtual items which are weak-sauce compared to other options, further more they're taking them for a very good reason: Balance, which is exactly what the community has been bitching about. There, answered your question, now you respond with more of your "but we had a contractual agreement" banter and I'll just ignore it because - like I said - you're not fishing for an argument your fishing for a way to drool out thoughts on entitlement.
Nice wall of text. You're defending the worthlessness of aurum. Of what value is this currency if there is no guarantee attatched to anything you purchase with it? The reasonable course of action would be to offer equivalent BPOs for those that have been removed. Giving a refund for items that are now irreplaceable is hardly a fair exchange.
If you really mean it when you say you wouldn't mind them removing your boosters, then I can only conclude that you are a moron. The two biggest selling points of aurum were boosters & BPOs. If all you're using aurum for is Codewishes & Sinewardens, then CCP deserves your money.
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2278
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: Lmfao, a moron eh? Because I'm one of those logical people that is more interesting in a BPO's impact on the game rather than some silly aurum value? Get real brosef, let me educate you on something real quick.
Aurum is not worthless, no sir, quite the opposite in fact. Aurum is a very powerful agent in which CCP can get revenue and profit from their consumers on a free-to-play game but the issue is that no-one ever had a sit down with marketing and said that those items shouldn't have an in-game impact that you couldn't accomplish with ISK. Neo gear is great for that, as are the aurum variant weaponry and you haven't seen it in use I would suggest dropping the NPC corp and getting into a PC corp to see just how often they're used. I was killed three times but an aurum ASCR not an hour ago.
Even still, removing boosters should have been done a long time ago or they should have been revamped in some way; an ISK option, maybe even a booster that extends your cap so that you can catch up with some of the veterans. There's a thousand different options but again no-one told marketing any good ideas so people just bought Omega Boosters because they had liquid income and wanted an edge, of those I'm almost positive that no-one told Marketing the impact these things had and they only could see one thing: The fact that they sold.
Know what would be a good idea for aurum? Implementation of the skill spikes that were originally hinted at in Beta. Turning BPO's into permanent skins that still require an ISK cost - both on dropsuits and weapons; hell you could even make advanced/prototype BPOs proportionately more expensive that way.
Sorry, but anything that gives you an inherent edge in this game that isn't strictly temporary doesn't need to exist and it's entirely the reason it hasn't in Eve Online. In Eve Online, it's all vanity gear; clothing and the like. If you're seriously trying to convince me that we need to keep BPOs in this game because "it's what people spend Aurum on" you're even more naive than I originally led on or a terrible troll. Either way, it's a dead argument and I take great pleasure in reminding you of the fact there's nothing you can do about it - those FOUR BPOs are gettin' nyxxed mate.
I don't suffer for these changes. I have roughly 24,000sp in vehicles, and my only BPOs were bundled.
Would you prefer if I post on the character I currently fight with? The one in the corp that won the recent tournament? Or should I stick with dear old Chunky here? Who downed Imperfect tanks in the finals of the original beta tournament about a year ago? Or here's a third option: how about you don't question my gameplay credentials? How does that sound?
Rambling on and on about your suggested alternatives does nothing to address the poor attitude CCP is showing to its customers, and your unquestioning support of these actions only encourages them to squeeze more and more out of us until the camel's back breaks and the game is exclusively populated by fanboys whacking off over the $70 monacle they just purchased for their merc. You have assumed that these items were removed for the sake of game balance, when anyone with a rudimentary understanding of this market knows it has more to do bank balance. BPOs cut into the sale of consumable aurum weapons, and since realising this, CCP has shown that they will spare no opportunity to take them from us. They may have legal immunity from this bait & switch tactic, but only someone who cares nothing for the community would extend that immunity to legitimate criticism of underhanded business practices.
So save your rants, and your fanboy flapping, you have demonstrated quite clearly your lack of understanding for both the Dust market, and the importance of consumer relations.
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2279
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:46:00 -
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