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Mossellia Delt
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:12:00 -
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Nice one sided view
Now how about how in 1.7 a tank will cost around 20 mil SP to max out and how they'll still cost boatloads of money.
Now lets look at how much SP and isk a well fitted FG costs.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:21:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:i have this feeling that most of the people above me read about a paragraph.
Oh wait, people always post on a long thread without reading it and then discredit all logic and insert their own, silly me- thats forums 101.
Give hard math, non situational or ancedontal evidence and list it all in a clear, prefurably bullet point like manner or using a spreadsheet.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:30:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:i have this feeling that most of the people above me read about a paragraph.
Oh wait, people always post on a long thread without reading it and then discredit all logic and insert their own, silly me- thats forums 101. Give hard math, non situational or ancedontal evidence and list it all in a clear, prefurably bullet point like manner or using a spreadsheet. I gave math and the situations i presented happen 95% of the time. Please gtfo if you can't realise that because you're either retard3d, or not involved with AV or tanks much.
oh please Pothead, being so hypocritical already? Thought there was no name calling.
I'd also like to point out, because you saying its 95% of the time, doesnt make it so. Thats what situational evidence is. You cant call something a fact off of situational evidence, thats akin to someone on LDS saying "The walls are melting and thats a fact".
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:36:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:i have this feeling that most of the people above me read about a paragraph.
Oh wait, people always post on a long thread without reading it and then discredit all logic and insert their own, silly me- thats forums 101. Give hard math, non situational or ancedontal evidence and list it all in a clear, prefurably bullet point like manner or using a spreadsheet. I gave math and the situations i presented happen 95% of the time. Please gtfo if you can't realise that because you're either retard3d, or not involved with AV or tanks much. heres what happens when going against decent players tank getw a kill or 2 they spawn in with proto AV they insta pop tank with proto broken forge gun or proto swarms, no wonder the proto AV is in prototype stage, they're not tested but they're broken and need fixing maybe that happens to your tankers in your corp
You make it sound like your corps good, exploiting NA servers so you have ****** ping and become nearly unkillable because of it, or using FOTM proto gear to stomp around in pubs, or thinking blobbing is a "pro" tactic.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:45:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:
can someone say qq, get over this lag BS our japanese players are just that much better than most people on this game, stop blaming something as real as the loch ness monster
L-O-L
Dont worry, i'll get some video proof of them lagging around dude to ****-tier internet.
How about they play on Asian servers? Then i'll join and kick their butts because they CANT hit me.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:49:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:i have this feeling that most of the people above me read about a paragraph.
Oh wait, people always post on a long thread without reading it and then discredit all logic and insert their own, silly me- thats forums 101. Give hard math, non situational or ancedontal evidence and list it all in a clear, prefurably bullet point like manner or using a spreadsheet. I gave math and the situations i presented happen 95% of the time. Please gtfo if you can't realise that because you're either retard3d, or not involved with AV or tanks much. oh please Pothead, being so hypocritical already? Thought there was no name calling. I'd also like to point out, because you saying its 95% of the time, doesnt make it so. Thats what situational evidence is. You cant call something a fact off of situational evidence, thats akin to someone on LDS saying "The walls are melting and thats a fact". The OP was no name calling, not me, thats my official statement, but once you start posting you'd best believe i dont give a f uck. And if you can't see that the situations i presented are what really happens ALL the time, then im done with you, I can tell you whats common sense, but a serial killer can always argue that hes not wrong because theres no real evidence what he does is wrong. You want math its in the 10 maxed proto FG shots to kill a single maxed tank. Thats why tanks don't get solo'ed generally, thats why multiple AV means EZ mode quick death to them and they rage about OP AV.
Once again, tell me how much SP a maxed proto FG takes?
Now, tell me how much SP a maxed Tank takes.
Now tell me, do you run tanks? Or do you sit on a tower, safe from tanks with a FG? Maybe both?
Doesnt matter either way, without hardline FACT, that means math, and I know that can be hard for stoners some times, your arguement is invalid no matter how much you want to be butthurt and swear, namecall or be rude because I suggest using logic and (once again stated) math vs situational evidence.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:50:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:
can someone say qq, get over this lag BS our japanese players are just that much better than most people on this game, stop blaming something as real as the loch ness monster
L-O-L Dont worry, i'll get some video proof of them lagging around dude to ****-tier internet. How about they play on Asian servers? Then i'll join and kick their butts because they CANT hit me. based on your logic why don't you go into the asian severs and lag in there and pile up the kills
Hint hint
Its because I dont need a crutch.
Hint hint
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:56:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:
can someone say qq, get over this lag BS our japanese players are just that much better than most people on this game, stop blaming something as real as the loch ness monster
L-O-L Dont worry, i'll get some video proof of them lagging around dude to ****-tier internet. How about they play on Asian servers? Then i'll join and kick their butts because they CANT hit me. based on your logic why don't you go into the asian severs and lag in there and pile up the kills Hint hint Its because I dont need a crutch. Hint hint it just sad you think thats the only reason why our japanese players are good
But they arnt? Iv seen ONE member of your corp ONCE using something that wasnt FOTM.
When I can see your members using "gimpy" gear and doing well, then I can say your corp mates might have some skill.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:57:00 -
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I should also like to make another responce to Pothead.
Why do you think AV should be solelly spec'd around killing HAVs when there are more vehicles in the game than HAVs?
Just some food for thought.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:02:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:
Our asian players do play on asian servers and our american players play on NA servers, you're just garbage. You think I'm japanese? NO. OBVIOUSLY. Yet people claim I'm a laggy jap dude who needs to play on his own server.
Newsflash, high speed internet. That why I have good hit detection. You? garbage internet that makes you have bad hit detection. ON EVERYONE, IN ALL ONLINE SHOOTERS.
Laugh so hard when scrubs make excuses.
Did I mention you were asian, stop smoking so much pot and relearn to read.
Might I add I have 3gig unified. So throw your "garbage" internet theory out the window.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:03:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:This is why i never swot a topic on the forums it just will turn into a thread about hating Nyain San
Yes, when you bring up how ****** others must be.
Instead of you know, talking about the matter at hand
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:05:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:
Our asian players do play on asian servers and our american players play on NA servers, you're just garbage. You think I'm japanese? NO. OBVIOUSLY. Yet people claim I'm a laggy jap dude who needs to play on his own server.
Newsflash, high speed internet. That why I have good hit detection. You? garbage internet that makes you have bad hit detection. ON EVERYONE, IN ALL ONLINE SHOOTERS.
Laugh so hard when scrubs make excuses.
Did I mention you were asian, stop smoking so much pot and relearn to read. Might I add I have 3gig unified. So through your "garbage" internet theory out the window. how do you know our japanese players have a garbage internet connection?
They have horrible ping to NA battle servers. It happens with connection degredation over expancive areas.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:11:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:
Our asian players do play on asian servers and our american players play on NA servers, you're just garbage. You think I'm japanese? NO. OBVIOUSLY. Yet people claim I'm a laggy jap dude who needs to play on his own server.
Newsflash, high speed internet. That why I have good hit detection. You? garbage internet that makes you have bad hit detection. ON EVERYONE, IN ALL ONLINE SHOOTERS.
Laugh so hard when scrubs make excuses.
Did I mention you were asian, stop smoking so much pot and relearn to read. Might I add I have 3gig unified. So through your "garbage" internet theory out the window. how do you know our japanese players have a garbage internet connection? They have horrible ping to NA battle servers. It happens with connection degredation over expancive areas. stop your QQing they are just better at dust than you and are you mad because our japanese player recently pub stomped you??
lol, say again im QQing. Contridict Pothead again as well. This is giving me the giggles.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:13:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:
Our asian players do play on asian servers and our american players play on NA servers, you're just garbage. You think I'm japanese? NO. OBVIOUSLY. Yet people claim I'm a laggy jap dude who needs to play on his own server.
Newsflash, high speed internet. That why I have good hit detection. You? garbage internet that makes you have bad hit detection. ON EVERYONE, IN ALL ONLINE SHOOTERS.
Laugh so hard when scrubs make excuses.
Did I mention you were asian, stop smoking so much pot and relearn to read. Might I add I have 3gig unified. So throw your "garbage" internet theory out the window. Wasn't talking specifically about you but if you're still claiming that we lag you're either a liar or just fool yourself into believing your own excuses.
Tell me again how you wernt talking about me
Quote:You? garbage internet that makes you have bad hit detection.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:14:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:ok you are QQing
Couldnt figure out how to remove some quotes?
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:20:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:
I was saying that about the people claiming I'm a laggy jap dude. Like I said in the sentence before that. Please learn to read.
You're being equivelent to this
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:21:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:ok you are QQing
Couldnt figure out how to remove some quotes? no i know how to do that and its just funny how do you think you are not QQing or crying or whining about the lag our japanese players cause
Now you're admitting that your japanese players cause lag.
Slow clap for being so hypocritical.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:23:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:
I was saying that about the people claiming I'm a laggy jap dude. Like I said in the sentence before that. Please learn to read.
You're being equivelent to this a stick figure? a cartoon?
Dont be so dense.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:26:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Pfft, japs that think they're ENTITLED to stating they're better than us.
Yes, i will state that, in general you guys have SOLO skill. But when it comes to teamwork, you make the shittiest plans ever.
That or you just rely on broken mechanics CONSTANTLY.
Also for the record- 15gig internet, my ps3 IS plugged in, and 99% of the time, when im playing nothing else drags my internet.
Also in 80% of my matches things go incredibly well.
Then i meet you guys. Framerate drops instantly to 3fps, controls respond almoat a whole second late. And you wanna know why? Because you're asian, and you spam equipments whilst your system has been modified to allow the extra toll placed by ALL THAT DAMN EQUIPMENT.
Then you grab the splashiest, most face rapingest weapons you can find, and spam them in our face.
Pretty goddamned cowardly if you ask me.
Need i restate this is EVERY match you're in? I don't even know how to respond to this...? DUDE WE'RE NOT JAPANESE???!! If you have your server setting to automatic it can throw you into an asian server match during asian primetime, likewise for asians during american primetime. Otherwise you're facing american players. And ALL of us have good connections. But sorry bro if 20% of your matches are getting problems especially like 3fps and input delays, you've got some serious problems on your end.
What happened to asian players dont play on NA servers? 
Everyone Iv played with, has had the same problem whenever the Japanese members of Nyain San have joined an NA battle server match.
Before you get all "well maybe your playing on Asian servers", I among other have our servers set to NA, not automatic.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
664
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:26:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:ok you are QQing
Couldnt figure out how to remove some quotes? no i know how to do that and its just funny how do you think you are not QQing or crying or whining about the lag our japanese players cause Now you're admitting that your japanese players cause lag. Slow clap for being so hypocritical. wow sorry i miswrote that i meant to say is it funny you don't think you are QQing when you talk about the lag our japanese players cause according to you
freudian slip much? lol
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:34:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:nope was not a freudian slip just a typo, you really have no proof or any evidence of this lag
once again, you cannot figure out how to quote past 5 qoutes. Good job.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
666
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:43:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:ok you are QQing
Couldnt figure out how to remove some quotes? no i know how to do that and its just funny how do you think you are not QQing or crying or whining about the lag our japanese players cause Now you're admitting that your japanese players cause lag. Slow clap for being so hypocritical. The amount of you stupidity you put there combined with the assumption I was talking about you- was enough to make me hide your posts. Keep seeing what you wanna see, I'm done with you, thanks for keeping my thread at the top of the list.
No problem baby, thank yourself for how stupid you look. 
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:44:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt if you think our corp is garbage why don't you attack one of our district if we are as bad as you say we are so guys so beat us
You cause too much lag with your japanese players ping and uplink spam.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
666
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Posted - 2013.11.23 08:51:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt if you think our corp is garbage why don't you attack one of our district if we are as bad as you say we are so guys so beat us You cause too much lag with your japanese players ping and uplink spam. QQing again and you are just proving how big of a ***** you and your corp are
I'll be happy to go up against ANY of your players, using the exact same gear and within reasonable ping limits one on one. Find a way to make it happen.
Then i`ll show you who`s good.
But of course, without protogear and blobbing, along with ****** ping.....
Might I add, I really could care less how people who uses crutches think?
Im sure if my corp had active members they wouldnt care either.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
666
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:02:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt if you think our corp is garbage why don't you attack one of our district if we are as bad as you say we are so guys so beat us You cause too much lag with your japanese players ping and uplink spam. QQing again and you are just proving how big of a ***** you and your corp are I'll be happy to go up against ANY of your players, using the exact same gear and within reasonable ping limits one on one. Find a way to make it happen. Then i`ll show you who`s good. But of course, without protogear and blobbing, along with ****** ping..... you are already making excuses because no matter what you will blame the lag, when you lose so whats the point, you never answered my question from before you have no evidence what so ever of lag being associated with our japanese players that is something you said in the post related to what the amazing pothead said about AV. Just face the facts you suck at this game when compared to our japanese players.
Then i'll request ping numbers from CCP if that'll make you happy.
None the less, your jap players need crutches. When most people tell you YOU'RE lagging, its you, not them.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:16:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:All i can say to Mossellia Delt is every single japanese player is better than you. What crutches are you talking about, you are just bitching because they kill you. You need to understand that they are better than the majority of the people who play this game. What crutches are you talking about? if you say this lag BS you need to stop reading the forums. What proto logi suits? The fact they run proto gear all the time why?Because they all have over 100 million isk so they are going to run proto gear all the time because they can afford to. BTW do you even know who are japanese players are i would be interested to see you name them. One more thing you do know Jap is an offensive slur right?
My friend on IRC seems to have video proof of your players lagging.
Should I also tell you his name is Gimble, the guy who does the boots on the ground podcast.
Currently asking for the vid to shut you up.
Gonna add, that again , you couldnt quote me.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
666
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:21:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:All i can say to Mossellia Delt is every single japanese player is better than you. What crutches are you talking about, you are just bitching because they kill you. You need to understand that they are better than the majority of the people who play this game. What crutches are you talking about? if you say this lag BS you need to stop reading the forums. What proto logi suits? The fact they run proto gear all the time why?Because they all have over 100 million isk so they are going to run proto gear all the time because they can afford to. BTW do you even know who are japanese players are i would be interested to see you name them. One more thing you do know Jap is an offensive slur right? My friend on IRC seems to have video proof of your players lagging. Should I also tell you his name is Gimble, the guy who does the boots on the ground podcast. Currently asking for the vid to shut you up. Gonna add, that again , you couldnt quote me. if its a pc game it proves nothing everyone lags in that
Getting a bit nervous?
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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