apparently there's a possibility of an infantry respec in 1.8, assuming that is the infantry patch. keep hope, because without it, this game is nothing.

completely agree, we have had to waste skill points to be able to play and still have a feeling of development even though we are missing large amounts

but at the same time, i play Logi atm but i will im sure end up being a heavy, right now with Heavy having no suits and no weapons to really choose from im not going to put point into a role which i dont even know how its going to work, in this respect i would rather see the full basic racial suits and weapons come out (unbalanced if they have to be) so we can get a feel for the design of them

Im only Gallente as im hoping Drones will come in and it will be their Racial bonus at somepoint

Also concerned that Racial suits will get a bonus to their Races weapons, right now they dont do i could spend my SP cross skilling weapons and suits to find out later when the rest get released they need to separate them

Setting our expectations of whats to come helps us prepare, but granted CCP have to try and stick with it, if CCP cant stick by their expectations then they should bend over backwards to to explain why and do what they can to make the community happy, i.e full respects

the BPO fiasco is a joke, in the 10 years running EvE and all the BPO issues and with your Market Guru you could not see this coming seems incredibly unlikely, i bet that guy was screaming not to introduce BPO's it was clear to all they were a bad idea, without the need of materials to create items you kill the market, even Aur items are not a great idea for the same reason, they are still created out of nothing, would be better to get the market merged and allow the trading of PLEX so Dust players could sell PLEX to EvE toons for Isk

We have players setting up Isk transfers between EvE and Dust...... why cant you get it active yet

ok i might have gone on a rant so ill shut up now

TL;DR -- i agree :D

This is just CCP. It's how they have always operated about SP refunds around skill changes, for over a decade.


If they completely rework something like they are with vehicles... delete... add... redo the mechanics.. They will reimburse the skill points.


If they nerf or buff soemething they won't... as the cycle in New Eden goes they will always be useful and maybe one day be the FOTM again and you can always acquire new skill points and branch off into something else.


When they thought rapid reload had to high of skill multiplyer they modified the skill and reduced it and refunded skill point's.

When they nerfed the flaylock/contact grenades they offered no SP reimbursement or even Aurum.

It's best to look upon those skill's that collect dust as Photograph's of your old DUST time's... eventually it may be popular again ;)

EVE never had 99% of the thing's you see on it now when it started either... they got added... we where supposed to get the Jovian's as a fifth race and never did... and won't.

I want jet bikes and i could save all my SP waiting for their eventual addition to the game or i could do what you did and skill into what's available...

Having a game developer continue to add thing's to a game that you want to grind SP and skill into is a blessing regardless if there is a skill tree or SP you would rather re-allocate for.. instead of what you had prior...

That isn't how New Eden has ever ran. and hope it doesn't

What makes every EVE pilot and DUST merc different is the skills we have and maybe even the mistakes we made along the way of getting them.

Not having a bunch of cookie cutter merc's with the best Skills/Items mathematically possible and setup for the FOTM...

Here's an interesting thought about respecs -- it ain't gonna happen.

So stop making threads about 'em.

To be honest as someone who is anti respec i have to agree with this any time where new raicial varients get introduced the place holder should be removed and sp of the place holder only should be given back to the character to invest in the raceial varient he or she wanted, place holders are things like the AR, shotgun, SMG, sniper rifle, massdriver, forge gun, swarm launcher, heavy suit, scout suit, tanks.............................

Ok pretty much every thing except for the logi and assualt suit are place holders but the refund should only happen for the place holder effected and when it happens this is so people cant just respec to the new FOTM every time this needs to happen as once you make up your mind about what you want your stuck with it.

respeccing one by one is beating around the bush, do a full respec or not at all.

Even if you don't cap every week, it wouldn't take that long to get to proto on a new gun when you get 800k SP a month for doing nothing.

Respec's are a bad idea for one reason alone. If they do it for Combat/Rail Rifles, people will want them at every new content release, and giving it for the rifles would set precedent.

The only time i see a SP refund being appropriate is if a skill is removed from the game for whatever reason.

The best system i can see for respec's, if CCP ever does decide to allow them, would be a once a year timer on them. I would be ok with that just to keep the game fresh for people who want to go another way. Respec's triggered by changes to the game are a serious pitfall for CCP.