DUST Search - A little surprised

Mr m4gic wrote:

Heavenly Daughter wrote:

I created a new character last night but to my surprise, new character are put into battles with the likes of long standing players, I had thought that new characters were isolated from veterans. Looks like thats wrong !

Finding yourself in battles for or against STB, Unholy Legion, Dust Uni, Maphia clan but to name a few I've played with or against.

As the title say, a little surprised, A new character with no more than a few thousand WP should not be going into battles with the likes of veterans at this game. Seeing lots of proto equipment from the 3rd battle is really stupid as there is NO WAY a new character would stand a hope in hell of survival.

If this is what you have planned to keep CCP, it will fail because new people to this game will be slaughtered and will not stay the game.

its a fair point but you still get matches where u get a few good kills, they should make ambush matches balanced in terms of wp, and maybe domination but leave skirmishes open to all.

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Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 155	Posted - 2013.11.22 10:58:00 - [1] - Quote I created a new character last night but to my surprise, new character are put into battles with the likes of long standing players, I had thought that new characters were isolated from veterans. Looks like thats wrong ! Finding yourself in battles for or against STB, Unholy Legion, Dust Uni, Maphia clan but to name a few I've played with or against. As the title say, a little surprised, A new character with no more than a few thousand WP should not be going into battles with the likes of veterans at this game. Seeing lots of proto equipment from the 3rd battle is really stupid as there is NO WAY a new character would stand a hope in hell of survival. If this is what you have planned to keep CCP, it will fail because new people to this game will be slaughtered and will not stay the game.
Retarn Dominus H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 25	Posted - 2013.11.22 11:14:00 - [2] - Quote Times like this we call for 'damage limitation'. Snipe from your redline if you have been pushed back and there isn't a chance in hell of pulling it back. No point wasting your clones and ratios under the sights of a proto. Teamwork helps alot but can only get you so far against such foes. Hope this helps H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Corp Facebook page Overcome rage = better merc
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 93	Posted - 2013.11.22 11:37:00 - [3] - Quote Retarn Dominus wrote: Times like this we call for 'damage limitation'. Snipe from your redline if you have been pushed back and there isn't a chance in hell of pulling it back. No point wasting your clones and ratios under the sights of a proto. Teamwork helps alot but can only get you so far against such foes. Hope this helps I'm pretty sure Heavenly Daughter knows about sniping from the redline.
Retarn Dominus H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 25	Posted - 2013.11.22 11:46:00 - [4] - Quote straya fox wrote: Retarn Dominus wrote: Times like this we call for 'damage limitation'. Snipe from your redline if you have been pushed back and there isn't a chance in hell of pulling it back. No point wasting your clones and ratios under the sights of a proto. Teamwork helps alot but can only get you so far against such foes. Hope this helps I'm pretty sure Heavenly Daughter knows about sniping from the redline. I'm surprised on how many don't snipe from the redline and drip feed to waiting guns. Thought i'd share something that i see alot of mercs not doing. Simple as it may seam. H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Corp Facebook page Overcome rage = better merc
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 155	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:25:00 - [5] - Quote straya fox wrote: Retarn Dominus wrote: Times like this we call for 'damage limitation'. Snipe from your redline if you have been pushed back and there isn't a chance in hell of pulling it back. No point wasting your clones and ratios under the sights of a proto. Teamwork helps alot but can only get you so far against such foes. Hope this helps I'm pretty sure Heavenly Daughter knows about sniping from the redline. Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt. lol More to the point, is why new characters getting pushed so early into situations that is a sure fire loss., or am i missing something in setup. my test character AA Junk (less than 4K WP) should not be playing along side players like Icecreamk1ng, its ludicrous. CCP, you really need to segregate new players from the carnage of veterans. You also need to work on how the distribution of officer weapons is working because, Heavenly Daughter has not got Thales rifles in a year but AAJunk gets 3 in second game lol.
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 94	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:30:00 - [6] - Quote I have about 21 with your name on them when the market opens up, it will cost you tho. Not that you need a Thales to scare the **** out of people with your sniping.
Infamous Erich Inf4m0us 41	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:37:00 - [7] - Quote people who stay in the red line should just expload like when i used to check my map and my tank or ds goes B00M! Closed Beta Vet Shield Tank Vet Bring back my Sagaris
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 156	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:46:00 - [8] - Quote straya fox wrote: I have about 21 with your name on them when the market opens up, it will cost you tho. Not that you need a Thales to scare the **** out of people with your sniping. Done deal. lol.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 156	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:48:00 - [9] - Quote Infamous Erich wrote: people who stay in the red line should just expload like when i used to check my map and my tank or ds goes B00M! Im only in the redline because it appears that way to you, If I were in the redline I would go BOOM lol.... Longest shot yesterday 588M
Retarn Dominus H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 25	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:48:00 - [10] - Quote Infamous Erich wrote: people who stay in the red line should just expload like when i used to check my map and my tank or ds goes B00M! Not sure you would have given the same response when using a low sp character against protos. Unless your one of those drip feeders lol. Well i guess it wouldn't take too much for Dev to up the WP at the Academy. Even then i don't think it would solve the issue. New characters are always gonna get stomped IMO. Personally i like the challenge and if players have spent a long time playing this game to get to this level then fair play. Maybe one day i can do some stomping of my own. H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Corp Facebook page Overcome rage = better merc

Retarn Dominus H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 25	Posted - 2013.11.22 12:50:00 - [11] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Infamous Erich wrote: people who stay in the red line should just expload like when i used to check my map and my tank or ds goes B00M! Im only in the redline because it appears that way to you, If I were in the redline I would go BOOM lol.... Longest shot yesterday 588M Okay so this was the wrong guy to give sniping advice to. lol hats off to ya H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Corp Facebook page Overcome rage = better merc
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 157	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:10:00 - [12] - Quote Retarn Dominus wrote: Okay so this was the wrong guy to give sniping advice to. lol hats off to ya Girl actually , hence the name "Daughter" but ill forgive you.
Retarn Dominus H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 25	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:19:00 - [13] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Retarn Dominus wrote: Okay so this was the wrong guy to give sniping advice to. lol hats off to ya Girl actually , hence the name "Daughter" but ill forgive you. Oops I don't think you will be as forgiving when i'm under your sights. Let me jump around abit first before pulling the trigger. H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Corp Facebook page Overcome rage = better merc
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 157	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:31:00 - [14] - Quote Retarn Dominus wrote: Heavenly Daughter wrote: Retarn Dominus wrote: Okay so this was the wrong guy to give sniping advice to. lol hats off to ya Girl actually , hence the name "Daughter" but ill forgive you. Oops I don't think you will be as forgiving when i'm under your sights. Let me jump around abit first before pulling the trigger. Err, Hmm, NO !
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 995	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:34:00 - [15] - Quote This issue has been pointed out to CCP before but I'm glad you made the thread none the less. For a while CCP was asking that new players earn only 500wp to exit the academy which is truly stupid. I'd like to see player in the academy for much longer. Segregating them until they reach at least 2 million skill points would make a lot of sense. 4 mil sp would be an even better target though. Fun > Realism
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 157	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:40:00 - [16] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: This issue has been pointed out to CCP before but I'm glad you made the thread none the less. For a while CCP was asking that new players earn only 500wp to exit the academy which is truly stupid. I'd like to see player in the academy for much longer. Segregating them until they reach at least 2 million skill points would make a lot of sense. 4 mil sp would be an even better target though. I agree, 500wp is just stupid, but 4 mill, a touch much I think, 2 million I could agree with. Thats enough to get players in a basic suit with fully advanced gear I'n the areas of interest to them. 500 wp is nothing, anyone will get 500 wp but not the experience of the game, bad idea CCP.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 995	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:48:00 - [17] - Quote Oh I think they bumped it up to 1500 wp not too long ago. The 500 wp barrier was two months ago or something like that. Irregardless though I'm sure we can agree that like 500 wp, 1500 wp is an un acceptably low bar to climb over before playing with the big kids. Fun > Realism
Mr m4gic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:51:00 - [18] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: I created a new character last night but to my surprise, new character are put into battles with the likes of long standing players, I had thought that new characters were isolated from veterans. Looks like thats wrong ! Finding yourself in battles for or against STB, Unholy Legion, Dust Uni, Maphia clan but to name a few I've played with or against. As the title say, a little surprised, A new character with no more than a few thousand WP should not be going into battles with the likes of veterans at this game. Seeing lots of proto equipment from the 3rd battle is really stupid as there is NO WAY a new character would stand a hope in hell of survival. If this is what you have planned to keep CCP, it will fail because new people to this game will be slaughtered and will not stay the game. its a fair point but you still get matches where u get a few good kills, they should make ambush matches balanced in terms of wp, and maybe domination but leave skirmishes open to all.
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 157	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:05:00 - [19] - Quote Mr m4gic wrote: Heavenly Daughter wrote: I created a new character last night but to my surprise, new character are put into battles with the likes of long standing players, I had thought that new characters were isolated from veterans. Looks like thats wrong ! Finding yourself in battles for or against STB, Unholy Legion, Dust Uni, Maphia clan but to name a few I've played with or against. As the title say, a little surprised, A new character with no more than a few thousand WP should not be going into battles with the likes of veterans at this game. Seeing lots of proto equipment from the 3rd battle is really stupid as there is NO WAY a new character would stand a hope in hell of survival. If this is what you have planned to keep CCP, it will fail because new people to this game will be slaughtered and will not stay the game. its a fair point but you still get matches where u get a few good kills, they should make ambush matches balanced in terms of wp, and maybe domination but leave skirmishes open to all. True, but I think I had more that 1500 wp on my first game, now if this takes a new play out of the academy thats awful. Perhaps CCP should think about a minimum number of games rather than points to give people in-depth experience across the spectrum rather than the way it is now. That way everyone will be on (more or less) an equal footing without being hit by proto guys at all.
Draco Cerberus Hell's Gate Inc 526	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:28:00 - [20] - Quote I agree, it makes more sense to be able to experience the game on easy mode a little. Eve starter missions can last for weeks with no way to finish them until they are all done. This gives people an actual chance to see other game modes than just the first one. Even if it were a total of 50 matches this would be better than the current way Battle Academy works. *One Universe...with friendly fire and Open World Game Play for all!*

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kinsho Swords Caldari State 113	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:09:00 - [21] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: This issue has been pointed out to CCP before but I'm glad you made the thread none the less. For a while CCP was asking that new players earn only 500wp to exit the academy which is truly stupid. I'd like to see player in the academy for much longer. Segregating them until they reach at least 2 million skill points would make a lot of sense. 4 mil sp would be an even better target though. Good ideals . Don't know about the 4 million count though . Seems too much but I understand your reasoning . I'm a little over five and I'm proto in Sniper rifles , SMG's , AR's and almost there in Swarms . Prof in level three in all prototype . I have tanks and prototype turrets as well and most of the mods ( * sobbing and waving bye , bye * ) DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!! So that's a little too much and too long of a time to bake . That two million makes more since . They need to do something because someone can max out in two to three matches . That's why I don't even make an alt because it just doesn't make since . Might as well put that effort into my main , hell I'm seeing the same people anyway . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kinsho Swords Caldari State 113	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:20:00 - [22] - Quote Mr m4gic wrote: Heavenly Daughter wrote: If this is what you have planned to keep CCP, it will fail because new people to this game will be slaughtered and will not stay the game. its a fair point but you still get matches where u get a few good kills, they should make ambush matches balanced in terms of wp, and maybe domination but leave skirmishes open to all. Truthfully ... something needs to be done in regards to domination as well . Most of the time I played ( don't anymore for this reason ) all one team would do is just wait until the other team had most of their forces around the null hacking and then just Tactical Struck that point on the map . Back and forth . Yeah other things would be going on but that was the meat of the match , with no strategy. EDIT : DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!!!!!! " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!


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