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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
165
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Posted - 2013.11.22 05:49:00 -
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I feel like sometimes its the greatest weapon ever and than other times (mostly other times) I can't hit anybody.
Anyone else have this problem?
Is hit detection still all fk-d up? |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
993
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Posted - 2013.11.22 05:50:00 -
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My biggest problem is the range. It's ridiculously short.
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1656
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Posted - 2013.11.22 05:56:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:My biggest problem is the range. It's ridiculously short. Yup.
Got a 4 meter range where you rapeface, outside it, your worthless.
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Oswald Rehnquist
648
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Posted - 2013.11.22 06:05:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I feel like sometimes its the greatest weapon ever and than other times (mostly other times) I can't hit anybody.
Anyone else have this problem?
Is hit detection still all fk-d up?
hit detection for it is good now, better than it has been in like forever
it takes about 2-3 shots to kill someone so it becomes imperative to choose your targets well.
Borne Velvalor wrote:My biggest problem is the range. It's ridiculously short.
I disagree
Obviously range is a buff but I don't believe the right one, I'm more inclined to boost the shotguns alpha considering the large and continuous alpha damage the auto rifles have at all those ranges, meaning the only way that the shotgun will find its niche when it can out dps them. Buffing its range does not fix the issue of the three shot time it to kill someone for hostiles to turn around and clean you out, having them turn around at 5 m vs 15 m is a small difference. On the other hand, if they had a stronger alpha then they would have their role.
Edit:
I also don't shotgun so I'm not upset either way, just pointing out what I see as logical.
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shady merc
RisingSuns Public Disorder.
26
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Posted - 2013.11.22 06:45:00 -
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Assuming Ttk is extended some then yes alpha dmg could use a small buff. The range probably feels like the issue because as a scout if someone see you trying to get with in range you are dead. Ttk is to short to pull out your sidearm and try to compete with your enemy. |
Dengru
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
156
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Posted - 2013.11.22 07:27:00 -
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The range is also an issue with medium frames, not just scourts
Boosting the effective range will allow you to more easily kill people who merely bunny hop into your dropoff range If someone is 7m away and they are down to half their armor it can be hard to take that tiny bit of health away when you combine dmg dropoff and poor dps-- not enough of the pellets hit and the interval between shoots is long. The way the game functions, its just a needless handicap.
an example would be... on one of the new maps, where bravo is up those stairs... if your coming out the stairs and around the corner at the objective panel an enemy begins shooting you either have to turn back or tank his shots to get within 5m . Because of the range you cannot do enough dmg to him and the time spent shootind and resuming sprint is enough for even low tier ars to do over 200 dps.
Once you add active scanners and dmg mods situations like this it just stupid and thats why you see scouts with 600 armor cause the range is dictated by scanners and full auto weapons so you will be peppered with huge I'm dmg that you can nolongel speed tank around to minimize
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Infamous Erich
Inf4m0us
41
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Posted - 2013.11.22 07:51:00 -
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I dont think its the weapon i think its the user cause somedays i can do very well with it jumping in the air hitting people while doing 180's and other days i can't even hit buddy that im standing behind then he turns around and kills me with his ar or scr lol
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Shield Tank Vet
Bring back my Sagaris
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
252
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Posted - 2013.11.22 09:05:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I feel like sometimes its the greatest weapon ever and than other times (mostly other times) I can't hit anybody.
Anyone else have this problem?
Is hit detection still all fk-d up?
Yupp although things are better since 1.6... |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
423
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Posted - 2013.11.22 09:30:00 -
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The shotgun is pretty simple, if the reticule isn't red you will miss.
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
252
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Posted - 2013.11.22 10:01:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:The shotgun is pretty simple, if the reticule isn't red you will miss.
If your are not dead on Target you will miss, what is somewaht stupid as the Shotgun has High spread... |
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
423
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Posted - 2013.11.22 10:12:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:The shotgun is pretty simple, if the reticule isn't red you will miss. If your are not dead on Target you will miss, what is somewaht stupid as the Shotgun has High spread...
Agreed. The reticule is misleading.
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
165
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Posted - 2013.11.22 14:00:00 -
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Well I'm going to keep on running it with my min assault. My SMG is practically a main weapon until they nerf that to the ground and hopefully either I get better with the shotty or they fix it... Idk. It's too much fun not to use. Nothing better than sneaking up on some proto try hard and watching them panic when they hear that... "doof" sound lol. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
140
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Posted - 2013.11.22 14:07:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Well I'm going to keep on running it with my min assault. My SMG is practically a main weapon until they nerf that to the ground and hopefully either I get better with the shotty or they fix it... Idk. It's too much fun not to use. Nothing better than sneaking up on some proto try hard and watching them panic when they hear that... "doof" sound lol.
Actually it's a "fu-doom" sound. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2253
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Posted - 2013.11.22 14:28:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I feel like sometimes its the greatest weapon ever and than other times (mostly other times) I can't hit anybody.
Anyone else have this problem?
Is hit detection still all fk-d up?
I've seen some truly bizarre things with the shotty. It's best not to question. Sometimes you'll miss completely, and the Gods will show mercy & kill the fella anyway.
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
165
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Posted - 2013.11.22 14:34:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Well I'm going to keep on running it with my min assault. My SMG is practically a main weapon until they nerf that to the ground and hopefully either I get better with the shotty or they fix it... Idk. It's too much fun not to use. Nothing better than sneaking up on some proto try hard and watching them panic when they hear that... "doof" sound lol. Actually it's a "fu-doom" sound.
I'll settle for "fu-doofm". My final offer.
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Jayke Violardo
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
13
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Posted - 2013.11.22 14:52:00 -
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It's hit or miss(literally) with hit detection. Sometimes every shot does what it's supposed to. Sometimes I'm shooting a guy in the back getting nothing but shield flare. What truly sucks is when it's shotty v shotty and you get shield flare. Most rage inducing death ever. |
Stile451
Red Star. EoN.
285
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Posted - 2013.11.22 16:34:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Well I'm going to keep on running it with my min assault. My SMG is practically a main weapon until they nerf that to the ground and hopefully either I get better with the shotty or they fix it... Idk. It's too much fun not to use. Nothing better than sneaking up on some proto try hard and watching them panic when they hear that... "doof" sound lol. Actually it's a "fu-doom" sound. I'll settle for "fu-doofm". My final offer. I thought shotguns fired tiny basketballs. |
Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
165
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:47:00 -
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Stile451 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Well I'm going to keep on running it with my min assault. My SMG is practically a main weapon until they nerf that to the ground and hopefully either I get better with the shotty or they fix it... Idk. It's too much fun not to use. Nothing better than sneaking up on some proto try hard and watching them panic when they hear that... "doof" sound lol. Actually it's a "fu-doom" sound. I'll settle for "fu-doofm". My final offer. I thought shotguns fired tiny basketballs. I see your basketballs and raise you a dodgeball.
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VAHZZ
294
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:50:00 -
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You just stink
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
165
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Posted - 2013.11.23 04:52:00 -
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