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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:52:00 -
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is ccp really this incompetent?
Here is a brief history of Dust...
In the begining, there was little sp. Most spent it on ground fits but a small dedicated handful invested fully into tanks.
Now tanks were balanced against good team play and specd AV. But nobody was speced av and nobody would.
Instead they QQd till tanks were nerfed and av buffed to where militia amd standard now leveled against a max tank.
But then came a dark age. Players gained more sp than they knew what to do with and dumped it into proto swarms and forges.
At this point tanks were paper and dropships were 1 ply wet toilet paper with forge **** all over em.
Ccp: "I don't get it...".
Ccp decides an entire rework of vehicles is the only way to repair balance in this game.
Seems totaly unnecessary but okay lets see.
And then 1.7 came. And ccp left the forges unchanged. They were the problem in the first place. Rather than using a scalpel for surgery ccp bludgeoned Dust with a 4 months coding Patch.
YET after all of this they left the forge. 1.7 changes nothing of consequence.
And what it may change will be impossible to test. How can you test new dropships if they can't even fly?
1.7... forges rule the map, supply depots are flypaper for dropships. Small blasters still broken. Small rails still useless. Ccp gives huge turret bonus to only one ship, for the only turret type that works onfront a dropship. Pythons get 2x dps from missile s.
but large rails will gib them before a hardener can activate. Ds side turret aim resetting but still not fixed after 6 months.
What was the point of 1.7? " It was suposed to bring balance to the AV, not stationary targets!"
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:54:00 -
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You've played 1.7, too. Nice. I thought I was the only one.
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
206
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:57:00 -
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CCP already said that they were going to alter the Forge gun. I bet you hear something about it today or tomorrow.
an easy fix to Matchmaking
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7863
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:00:00 -
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Didn't rail guns get a damage buff?
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:02:00 -
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 Oh you MUST be ready to feel the sting on the Forge Gun !!!!!
Sounds like the two of you are good friends already .
" BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1308
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Didn't rail guns get a damage buff?
I can usually deal with rail tanks or turrets by flying above it. Whit a forge my only way to survive is to gtfo as fast as I can
"Please don't"
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I Support SP Rollover, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP !!!
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darkiller240
K-A-O-S theory
181
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:15:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:You've played 1.7, too. Nice. I thought I was the only one.
hehe
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4536
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:18:00 -
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Yes, continue nerfing the heavy class. It doesn't suck enough atm 
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1760
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:40:00 -
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Where are people getting this info from? Last I heard from CCP on the forge gun they said they were planning to announce changes after the other AV change announcements.
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
138
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:40:00 -
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Your synopsis shoves chromosome under the rug; where tanks were indestructible death engines. The only tankers being defeated by militia swarms are with being assaulted by multiple AVers or are scrubs that don't know how to pilot.
This is not world of tanks. Your isk/SP should not give you such an empirical advantage that a team needs to counter an individual tank, get over it.
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:43:00 -
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Ummmm....really? You do know that they nerfed forge splash damage to garbage right? It's not even a decent weapon anymore now it's sole purpose is AV and you want to need that too?? Please find something good to QQ about |
Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
138
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:11:00 -
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It's not garbage but now it requires utmost precision, it can still OHKO with direct hits. It's a hip fired slow ROF sniper rifle with a tiny splash radius, low ammo count, and also it makes you light up like a Christmas tree in order to take out vehicles/installations. |
Foundation Seldon
Gespenster Kompanie
Villore Accords
208
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:16:00 -
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Mauren NOON wrote:Ummmm....really? You do know that they nerfed forge splash damage to garbage right? It's not even a decent weapon anymore now it's sole purpose is AV and you want to need that too?? Please find something good to QQ about
Pfft, said by not a single Forge Gunner capable of aiming.
1.7 LAVs - Thoughts and Discussion
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
217
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:21:00 -
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The Forge killing Infantry is young padawan, but you have to believe in yourself, believe in the forGe.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
217
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:24:00 -
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BTW let me say KUDOS to a pilot of Dem Durty Boyz, he was a ******* ace pilot, the only one that i couldn't take down with my forge ( and i take out drivers in LLAV with it)
He was doing Deathloop and other crazy stuff and acting as a CRU.
Freaking Awesome.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
2301
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:44:00 -
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Mauren NOON wrote:Ummmm....really? You do know that they nerfed forge splash damage to garbage right? It's not even a decent weapon anymore now it's sole purpose is AV and you want to need that too?? Please find something good to QQ about
spash never factored into AV. What the heck are you on about ? |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.11.22 01:49:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:You've played 1.7, too. Nice. I thought I was the only one.
Foundation Seldon wrote:
For whatever my word is worth, I've talked to CPM Hans on IRC and he's said the same thing. The Forge is going unchanged in 1.7
Hurp Durp CharDarrr, your move |
EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
621
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Posted - 2013.11.22 01:51:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:You've played 1.7, too. Nice. I thought I was the only one. Foundation Seldon wrote:
For whatever my word is worth, I've talked to CPM Hans on IRC and he's said the same thing. The Forge is going unchanged in 1.7
Hurp Durp CharDarrr, your move
Feeeeeck
"Fight Togheter; Win Together"
Duster Since: July 2012
Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2287
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Posted - 2013.11.22 01:58:00 -
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With the way mods are going the forge may actually NEED that damage to combat ta tank using active mods.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
853
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Posted - 2013.11.22 02:09:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:With the way mods are going the forge may actually NEED that damage to combat ta tank using active mods.
At the moment is seems that unaltered forges are able to still control whole battlegrounds therefore slaughtering any tank the very first time they hit their cooldowns.
I doubt active module active timer would be far from enabling tanks to exit from own base, do your stuff, come back to base.
Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance?
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