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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:13:00 -
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I'm a logi, this should be against my interests, but let explain.
i will not consider vehicles for the moment
As a logi we can make wp for: resupply, revive, repair, spawn, scan, hack, kills and assist.
Assaults and scouts can make wp for: hack, kills, assist and for one kind of equipment.
Heavy can make wp for: hack, kills and assist.
But the wp generates orbitals.
In my opinion equipments (except RE) should generate LOGI points, with logi points you will drop a non-lethal kind of orbital.
This is also a way to see your talent as logi and have better stats.
WP: kills, assist, hack.
Logi Points: resupply, revive, repair, spawn, scan.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
984
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:22:00 -
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Usually commando are dead before they can make any WP 
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
984
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:26:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I get more wp, I spend more isk, my kdr suffers.
That's the balance of being a logi.
Risk vs Reward.
Come on, we get more wp, but our KDR do not suffer, i'm not a slayer but the number of wp we get is not balanced.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
985
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:45:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:shaman oga wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I get more wp, I spend more isk, my kdr suffers.
That's the balance of being a logi.
Risk vs Reward. Come on, we get more wp, but our KDR do not suffer, i'm not a slayer but the number of wp we get is not balanced. A 'Truelogi' is more valuable to the team than another assault suit is, and is rewarded with WP. A lot of games work like this, the Engineer and Medic classes almost always get more rewards than Slayer classes, because if they didn't, a lot of people wouldn't use those classes.
But i agree, the logi should be rewarded for doing its job, i do not discuss the amount of points, but the points you make with your logi job should not let you earn the classic orbital strike.
With logi points you should make an orbital 0Db scan that last 30 second or a flux orbital to wash away shields and equipments.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:05:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:shaman oga wrote: -- snip New Berry not knowing any history -- First the snarky comment: What, you want cream pies thrown from space? Snarky off, mostly. How long have you been around shaman? Seriously, I was a Logi in Close Beta and if I found a decent Heavy I could place in the top three easily, often with the fewest kills, and a low death count, among the actual Mercs (not the AFK and New Berries). Those days are gone and you are trying to get their WP removed even further? What is wrong with you? As a squad leader you idea is nearly the worst I have heard. You take one third of my team and then remove their WP from my OBs? Fine, we quit running Logis. Everybody can run a Logi suit but no repairing hives or revives. And no helping Blue Berries, ever. Proximity mines, REs and Scanners will be fine. What are you going to do when no body wants you in their squad as your presence will cost them WP? As far as vehicles you might not have noticed but doing anything to a vehicle as a Logi nets you Nothing At All*. Removing WP from a LLAV could be funny, everybody hates them anyway. Which leads us to here and the chance for you to spray this all over the front of your shirt. If you don't want the WP, play a different role. Better yet, try a different game.  * That was because of exploits in Closed Beta and the subsequent Wang Nerf Hammer of Doom being applied to Logi WP.
I'm here since open beta, but that is not the point.
We deserve to gain points and gain loads of isk, but they should not be WP, yesterday we was in a team of 4, we dropped 4 orbitals, that's not normal, it should not happen.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
991
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:53:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:So........
You want to take all kind of support designated WP and use them to do what? Giving healing rays?
Logistics will always get more WP, what needs to happen is that assault suits get bonus warpoints for working with a logistics suit!
Something else that is not a classic orbital strike, kills will generate kills with a orbital strike, logistic stuff will generate logistic stuff that can be one between: scan, resupply, fluxing enemy equipment and why not healing rays.
Probabily a squad leader can get the same amount of points with one of those "orbitals" than with a classic one.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
991
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:29:00 -
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Let us assume some kind of logistic orbitals and compare it to a normal OB.
Average kill from a single OB are 6/7 (even less usually) with a wp average of 350/450 depending on equipments vehicles etc.
To throw an orbital you need the exact position of the enemy or a scansion.
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Logistic orbital will be sure shot, because you can throw them on your teammates.
Nanite storm orbital: this orbital will resupply and repair, assuming that targets are with half ammo and 80% of armor, if you hit 5 teammates you will earn more or less 50 triage + 10 +10 resupply for each target, 70*5= 350 logi points.
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I'm trying to tell that in term of isk gain Logi points will be the same of WP, the only difference is the kind of orbital they will unlock.
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