DUST Search - So, why exactly is the Scrambler Rifle getting buffed?

Borne Velvalor wrote:

Delta90212 wrote:

Borne Velvalor wrote:

The Imperial Scrambler Rifle currently has an optimal range of 50m. As of 1.7, it will be 78m, almost a 30m increase. For comparison, the current Duvolle Assault Rifle does 30% damage up to 70m to shields, at which point the Scrambler Rifle will be doing 120% for another 8m. Currently, it looks like I'll be swapping to Scrambler Rifles as of 1.7, even though I use the TAR. It looks like the Scrambler Rifle will out range and out damage all of the new rifles, too. The only disadvantage seems to be the lack of an ACOG scope. Also, Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifles will be getting an optimal of 60m.

So, we've got an Assault Rifle variant that does less than half the damage and has less damage in a clip than a single stream of Scrambler fire, plus significant recoil that the Scrambler doesn't have, for a 14m advantage in range and a scope. Now that that's gone, the TAR will be so laughably ineffective compared to the Scrambler Rifle (we're talking half to a third of the DPS at most ranges), that there will be no reason to use it. I know, I know; it's a variant, so it should be a weaker version of the Scrambler. Then please explain to me why the Scrambler's Assault variant will be an Assault Rifle with 25% more range as of 1.7? I don't see that as being an inferior replica.

Scrambler Rifle 514, here we come? Unless, of course, the Scrambler Rifle starts doing 25% less damage than it is now, or something.

Just wait for the Rail rifle with the highest range, decent dmg and a good scope comes.
Then there will be crying.

A skilled Scrambler Rifle will be dealing twice the DPS while the Rail Rifle is kicking all over the place after spending 200ms charging up. Hide behind crate, charge. Strafe out and fire while te Rail Rifle is spooling up. Rinse, repeat until dead. It's not hard when you deal 1200 DPS with no recoil and they deal less than 500 DPS with recoil and charge time to kill them, even if they have an ACOG.


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Protected Void Endless Hatred 183	Posted - 2013.11.21 12:53:00 - [1] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: Delta90212 wrote: Borne Velvalor wrote: The Imperial Scrambler Rifle currently has an optimal range of 50m. As of 1.7, it will be 78m, almost a 30m increase. For comparison, the current Duvolle Assault Rifle does 30% damage up to 70m to shields, at which point the Scrambler Rifle will be doing 120% for another 8m. Currently, it looks like I'll be swapping to Scrambler Rifles as of 1.7, even though I use the TAR. It looks like the Scrambler Rifle will out range and out damage all of the new rifles, too. The only disadvantage seems to be the lack of an ACOG scope. Also, Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifles will be getting an optimal of 60m. So, we've got an Assault Rifle variant that does less than half the damage and has less damage in a clip than a single stream of Scrambler fire, plus significant recoil that the Scrambler doesn't have, for a 14m advantage in range and a scope. Now that that's gone, the TAR will be so laughably ineffective compared to the Scrambler Rifle (we're talking half to a third of the DPS at most ranges), that there will be no reason to use it. I know, I know; it's a variant, so it should be a weaker version of the Scrambler. Then please explain to me why the Scrambler's Assault variant will be an Assault Rifle with 25% more range as of 1.7? I don't see that as being an inferior replica. Scrambler Rifle 514, here we come? Unless, of course, the Scrambler Rifle starts doing 25% less damage than it is now, or something. Just wait for the Rail rifle with the highest range, decent dmg and a good scope comes. Then there will be crying. A skilled Scrambler Rifle will be dealing twice the DPS while the Rail Rifle is kicking all over the place after spending 200ms charging up. Hide behind crate, charge. Strafe out and fire while te Rail Rifle is spooling up. Rinse, repeat until dead. It's not hard when you deal 1200 DPS with no recoil and they deal less than 500 DPS with recoil and charge time to kill them, even if they have an ACOG. I don't know where this idea about the scrambler rifle having no recoil comes from. I see it pop up on the forums every now and then. Here's a test: Equip a scrambler rifle Find somewhere quiet, so you don't get distracted Aim at a specific point on a wall Fire your scrambler rifle rapidly until it overheats, paying close attention to where the shots land Realize that the shots didn't hit the same spot, because each shot pushed the rifle upwards You have now seen recoil in action Now, I've never used the TAC beyond a quick test six months ago, so I can't really say whether it has more, less or the same amount of recoil as the scrambler rifle. Which is why I'm not going to make claims regarding it. TL;DR: The scrambler rifle does have recoil, please stop perpetuating untruths.
Protected Void Endless Hatred 183	Posted - 2013.11.21 12:55:00 - [2] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: Delta90212 wrote: Borne Velvalor wrote: The Imperial Scrambler Rifle currently has an optimal range of 50m. As of 1.7, it will be 78m, almost a 30m increase. For comparison, the current Duvolle Assault Rifle does 30% damage up to 70m to shields, at which point the Scrambler Rifle will be doing 120% for another 8m. Currently, it looks like I'll be swapping to Scrambler Rifles as of 1.7, even though I use the TAR. It looks like the Scrambler Rifle will out range and out damage all of the new rifles, too. The only disadvantage seems to be the lack of an ACOG scope. Also, Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifles will be getting an optimal of 60m. So, we've got an Assault Rifle variant that does less than half the damage and has less damage in a clip than a single stream of Scrambler fire, plus significant recoil that the Scrambler doesn't have, for a 14m advantage in range and a scope. Now that that's gone, the TAR will be so laughably ineffective compared to the Scrambler Rifle (we're talking half to a third of the DPS at most ranges), that there will be no reason to use it. I know, I know; it's a variant, so it should be a weaker version of the Scrambler. Then please explain to me why the Scrambler's Assault variant will be an Assault Rifle with 25% more range as of 1.7? I don't see that as being an inferior replica. Scrambler Rifle 514, here we come? Unless, of course, the Scrambler Rifle starts doing 25% less damage than it is now, or something. Just wait for the Rail rifle with the highest range, decent dmg and a good scope comes. Then there will be crying. A skilled Scrambler Rifle will be dealing twice the DPS while the Rail Rifle is kicking all over the place after spending 200ms charging up. Hide behind crate, charge. Strafe out and fire while te Rail Rifle is spooling up. Rinse, repeat until dead. It's not hard when you deal 1200 DPS with no recoil and they deal less than 500 DPS with recoil and charge time to kill them, even if they have an ACOG. Also: have you been getting sneak peeks and test play at CCP's offices? No? Then how do you know what the Rail Rifle will actually be like to use? Are you psychic?