I like TTK as it is now, just need to buff heavies and damage, and take the charge off laser rifles.

is troll rite?

What do you even mean take charge off lasers?
They'd probably be fine if not for being out classed and out ranged by AR's all around them now and in 1.7.

Mixed up with scrambler rifles.

EDIT:Lasers are a second grade weapon anyway.

Lol.
Well I mean people are entitled to their opinions but I havn't seen a single person yet aside from you suggest that dmg needs to be raised higher than right now.

Hadn't had a chance to poke wolfman since monday over it sorry, Ill poke him soon as possible.

My assault can take out 2-3, If i'm lucky 4, Now my heavyGǪ well he should just drop his HMG and throw stones at people.

I thought CCP said more than once that they are looking at their statistics regarding usage and kills of the weapons to decide what they nerf and so on.

Hadn't had a chance to poke wolfman since monday over it sorry, Ill poke him soon as possible.

It's to late don't bother the damage has been done ccp only talk to us on threads that agree with their current thinking and the pretend they are communicating with us.

I won't trust anything they say again tbh I'm looking forward to seeing how they screw up FW as I can see how that's going happen with the lp store.

And god knows how guns are going to turn out

Here is an example.

There is currently a great debate over TTK. Arguments from one side say that as hit detection was improved, HP and DMG values were not adjusted appropriately.

Arguments from AR users "Don't nerf me bro"

This leaves players in limbo wondering if the current state of Dust is to be maintained, the trend towards CoD to be continued, or if a re-evaluation of TTK is coming anytime soon.

It would be SO bloody easy for CCP to make an official statement something to the effect of
"We realize the balance issues created by code optimizations and although it's not our immediate priority, we intend to raise TTK within the next 2 patches".


Or
"Although the unintended consequences of our optimizations caused a decrease in TTK, upon feedback and reflect we think this is a good change for Dust"

Or

"Our design team leader would like to take these 5 minuets and briefly explain our philosophy and vision behind TTK rates, weapons, ranges, and where we would like to see Dust in regards to this issue. . ."


Yet instead of this we're treated to silence and left to assumptions. Dangerous assumptions. For many, when we go too long without any comment on fixes to game mechanics or bugs. . . (HELLO DROPSHIP SIDE-TURRET, AIM RESETTING BUG of 6 MONTHS) . . When our concerns go too long without being addressed, this manifests itself in a distinctive lack of playing or caring about Dust.

Vets go from ardent supporters of CCP to near virtual enemies and resentment builds over the perplexing issue of Why Couldn't They Just Say Something? Is it really that difficult?


This is not the same as staying what new content is expected to be coming when, or when Dust will fully integrate in a meaningful way with Eve. Or when Dust will move to PS4. This is entirely reasonable and I would say expected, but entirely ignored.

Take all my likes. Thank you. I've always been disappointed at dev response here. And shocked when I visited the EVE forums to see an abundance. I understand that there are lot less people, but why is it always Logicloop who has to answer? Where's everyone else?

Hadn't had a chance to poke wolfman since monday over it sorry, Ill poke him soon as possible.

yeah u should poke him and ask why they are buffing the most op light weapons in the game while plasma cannon and laser rifle are still 100% ignored and underpowered

Probably for the same reason they left small rail turrets with an obvious typo bug for over a year.
(They read that they should do increased damage vs vehicles, but had the lowest efficiency in coding)

Hence worthless for infantry (by design, built-in inaccuracy and no splash), worthless for vehicles
used by nobody.


This is CCP 101

oh you mean do the oposite of what everybody wants in the hopes that what? we will keep playing this ****** game?

how does that make sense ccp..? how YOU MAKE NO SENSE
YOUR CHOICES ARE FLAWED

Here is an example.

There is currently a great debate over TTK. Arguments from one side say that as hit detection was improved, HP and DMG values were not adjusted appropriately.

Arguments from AR users "Don't nerf me bro"

This leaves players in limbo wondering if the current state of Dust is to be maintained, the trend towards CoD to be continued, or if a re-evaluation of TTK is coming anytime soon.

It would be SO bloody easy for CCP to make an official statement something to the effect of
"We realize the balance issues created by code optimizations and although it's not our immediate priority, we intend to raise TTK within the next 2 patches".


Or
"Although the unintended consequences of our optimizations caused a decrease in TTK, upon feedback and reflect we think this is a good change for Dust"

Or

"Our design team leader would like to take these 5 minuets and briefly explain our philosophy and vision behind TTK rates, weapons, ranges, and where we would like to see Dust in regards to this issue. . ."


Yet instead of this we're treated to silence and left to assumptions. Dangerous assumptions. For many, when we go too long without any comment on fixes to game mechanics or bugs. . . (HELLO DROPSHIP SIDE-TURRET, AIM RESETTING BUG of 6 MONTHS) . . When our concerns go too long without being addressed, this manifests itself in a distinctive lack of playing or caring about Dust.

Vets go from ardent supporters of CCP to near virtual enemies and resentment builds over the perplexing issue of Why Couldn't They Just Say Something? Is it really that difficult?


This is not the same as staying what new content is expected to be coming when, or when Dust will fully integrate in a meaningful way with Eve. Or when Dust will move to PS4. This is entirely reasonable and I would say expected, but entirely ignored.

how come i cant walk up to a proto plasma cannoner and snatch his cannon? a bluedot can walk up to my tank and steal my mini turret,..blow all my ammo and hop out..
they dont have the skills to use my turrets i dont have the skills to use plasma cannon..so why cant i just take it?

how come i cant walk up to people enter their drop suit and walk off with it..they wont lose it unless i die? so why not? they can drive off wit vehicle users suits? why can we not steal their suits?..

do u understand what i am saying ccp..tanks dropships lavs are vehicle users SUITS they spend sp and isk on them and should not be able to have them stolen by friendlies i men i know ive been explaining this to you for a few years now but sometimes it would be nice if you caught onto things faster than my autistic cousin

exactly blue dot idiotry would be held off by that alone all tankers would have to do is put some proto turrets on the tank and bam no one who doesnt know what they are doing could muck up tankers day ..there are so many small things ccp could have done to improve the theft situation ..thing tha could have been hotfixed in..hell this timer increase could have SHOULD HAVE been hotfixed in months ago..gods we are gunna have to wait a full decade before ccp has all the small things that any other game developer would have put in as a given in dust.

did gtav testers have to tell rockstar vehicles needed a lock?

CCP reads these posts man...... There not blind, theres been a TON of TTK posts. The likely reason they haven't said anything in regards to it are probably A.) there focused on 1.7 (you know..... that huge update that's totally destroying vehicles as we know it), and B.) They probably haven't decided what they want in regards to that yet. CCP has daily meetings on where they want to take the game, and if they haven't decided on weather they like TTK or not then they wont post anything on it.......

Theres one thing worse then not telling the community what your planning as a dev....... and that's telling the community one thing, and then turning back around and saying "actually were doing it this way"........ I'd rather them stay neutral on TTK if they don't have an answer for it yet.

And besides..... TTK isn't even a big deal anyway...... This game gives you FAR more reaction time then 99% of other shooters even with the recent decrease in TTK. So I don't get why you people complain. Yes it sucks that militia suits drop super quick now...... but its a militia suit..... its not meant to be that good.

And this
would be an example of how CCP is turning what was once their fan base.. into bitter, resentful, jeering anarchists wishing the demise of their company in a 'bite off their nose to spite their face style.'

Not very healthy for a game that depends so readily on their small crowd of vets and fanboys

Mixed up with scrambler rifles.

EDIT:Lasers are a second grade weapon anyway.

Everything is a second grade weapon, when compared to ARs and ScRs.