DUST Search - What would make PC matter?

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

What makes pc so **** is that dust mercs control it, not eve. Opening up more regions would just make it an even bigger problem.

Give eve pilots control, let them build surface infrastructure and let us be mercs, reduce those fking carebear timers as well and have eve pilots ferry us, time is dependent on ship travel time and not some childish mummies boy timer and fix lag.

Pc needs to be more about what your actually fighting over as well, for a neckbeard any match matters but for an adult there has to be a reason to put in effort which this game completely lacks at the mo.

Tldr? Tough sht.

IDK, I think it would be cool if PI installations on a District determined what sort of District upgrades we could install. If PI installations were directly linked to what we could do with a District, it would force more collaboration with Eve pilots.

Allow Eve pilots to see the Districts on the planets as well as who they were occupied by. When fighting over Districts, we could have multitierd battles capturing the Dust analogues of the PI installations on the District. Have it so that having your PI District occupied gave you benefits on both sides (maybe Eve gets increased output and Dust gets a couple hundred thousand ISK earned Passively, though no more than the equivalent of a pub or two per day per District).

This would increase the connections between games while not forcing Eve pilots to rely 100% on Dust mercs.

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Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2286	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:06:00 - [1] - Quote In the future, what eventually could make PC and district ownership Really matter enough that people cared about who had them? Has CCP hinted at their plans regarding this?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4685	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:11:00 - [2] - Quote The materials to create implants. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2286	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:14:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3077	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:16:00 - [4] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do I think they're kinda like eve's form of boosters. I could be wrong tho GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3
JL3Eleven 1233	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:16:00 - [5] - Quote Boobs. LAV Dealer Dust 514 started from the bottom now we here.
dogmanpig black market bank 50	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:16:00 - [6] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do ignore kitty... hes a bigger troll then jenZa pantz and the ps2 bomber combined. You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 7 1/3 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1136	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:19:00 - [7] - Quote more regions,eve impact,mining, and less instant isk farms "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4686	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:19:00 - [8] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do ignore kitty... hes a bigger troll then jenZa pantz and the ps2 bomber combined. True but I wasn't trolling here. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4686	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:20:00 - [9] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do Attribute boosters. Each skill has one of two attributes, like charisma or intelligence. You can add +1 or +2 or +3 to that by applying boosters, and depending on the skill book, it accelerates learning. Implants get destroyed once you die and are pretty expensive, often costing hundreds of millions of ISK. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 737	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:22:00 - [10] - Quote Everything CCP said they wanted to do with DUST would make PC. Never was game play mentioned if not as a connection to EVE. Now we have it and it's nothing but balance this, nerf that, buff this. The only arguement that ever should have existed about DUST was how to better connect DUST conquest of a planet affect EVE planetary resources and consequently, important EVE R&D. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright

Lorhak Gannarsein 619	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:28:00 - [11] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do An implant is basically a booster for specific skill trees.
Rusty Shallows 520	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:28:00 - [12] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. What does an implants do Attribute boosters. Each skill has one of two attributes, like charisma or intelligence. You can add +1 or +2 or +3 to that by applying boosters, and depending on the skill book, it accelerates learning. Implants get destroyed once you die and are pretty expensive, often costing hundreds of millions of ISK. If they really want to get the Capsuleer Jockeys interest let the material make faction implants. If area link the interest in Sansha territories will be a blood bath. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1127	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:29:00 - [13] - Quote IDK that it'll ever mean anything to me ever. CCP kept the faucets on until the farmers had pasdively accumulated enough ISK to field the equivalent of 200m clone armies equipped in full proto and then changes it so that you make your ISK though killing clones rather than just sitting on a district. This creates a nearly insurmountable uphill battle for anyone trying to get involved post-farming. Maybe if they do a full PC reset after PC is totally out of beta (since it is obvious that it is still being tested out) yhen it might matter. Yeah, I said it, **** the farmers. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2286	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:30:00 - [14] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: IDK that it'll ever mean anything to me ever. CCP kept the faucets on until the farmers had pasdively accumulated enough ISK to field the equivalent of 200m clone armies equipped in full proto and then changes it so that you make your ISK though killing clones rather than just sitting on a district. This creates a nearly insurmountable uphill battle for anyone trying to get involved post-farming. Maybe if they do a full PC reset after PC is totally out of beta (since it is obvious that it is still being tested out) yhen it might matter. Yeah, I said it, **** the farmers. That's definitely one of the problems I see with it now lol. Hence they need to start adding some MotherShip type vehicle that cost a ton for the entrenched wealth to slowly level itself back down.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 854	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:33:00 - [15] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. People keep calling you a troll and this 'n' that, but I don't think they know when you're being serious or not. Have a +1 because you're not trolling with a considerable idea. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4690	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:43:00 - [16] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: The materials to create implants. People keep calling you a troll and this 'n' that, but I don't think they know when you're being serious or not. Have a +1 because you're not trolling with a considerable idea. Kasote Denzara wrote: but I don't think they know when you're being serious or not. Then I'm doing my job right Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1344	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:47:00 - [17] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Boobs. How am I the only one that Likes Boobs? Cheeseburgers.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1131	Posted - 2013.11.22 17:04:00 - [18] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: IDK that it'll ever mean anything to me ever. CCP kept the faucets on until the farmers had pasdively accumulated enough ISK to field the equivalent of 200m clone armies equipped in full proto and then changes it so that you make your ISK though killing clones rather than just sitting on a district. This creates a nearly insurmountable uphill battle for anyone trying to get involved post-farming. Maybe if they do a full PC reset after PC is totally out of beta (since it is obvious that it is still being tested out) yhen it might matter. Yeah, I said it, **** the farmers. That's definitely one of the problems I see with it now lol. Hence they need to start adding some MotherShip type vehicle that cost a ton for the entrenched wealth to slowly level itself back down. Nah, a full PC reset is what is needed, remove all ISK made through PC from whatever Corps/Individuals that made any and reset all Districts back to Unclaimed (the status, not the Alliance). Until all regions are open and claimable, PC is still in the beta stage. When Dust came out of "Beta", CCP forced a reset on us vets so that we wouldn't have an "unfair advantage" over the non-Beta newbs, the same logic should be applied to PC and the Beta (if not Alpha) phase it is obviously still in. To do otherwise would give the farmers a massive headstart over any others looking to get involved in PC. They'd have vast amounts of ISK with which to gobble up entire regions during the land grab that would occur like before. Beyond thatthey could utilize their bloated numbers to facilitate their land acquisitions during the land grab. Face it, PC is only for those already involved, providing them with the funds w necessary for protostomping scrubbery (which does little to attract/retain new players necessary for real growth. PC is little more than a cancer causing the slow death of Dust514 Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 1893	Posted - 2013.11.22 17:11:00 - [19] - Quote Open player market and that you can choose if your installation produces clones or equipment for your corp to sell on the player market. Like for a example a district would produce ~600 duvolles per day but only 25 clones that could spice things up. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1466	Posted - 2013.11.22 17:13:00 - [20] - Quote What makes pc so **** is that dust mercs control it, not eve. Opening up more regions would just make it an even bigger problem. Give eve pilots control, let them build surface infrastructure and let us be mercs, reduce those fking carebear timers as well and have eve pilots ferry us, time is dependent on ship travel time and not some childish mummies boy timer and fix lag. Pc needs to be more about what your actually fighting over as well, for a neckbeard any match matters but for an adult there has to be a reason to put in effort which this game completely lacks at the mo. Tldr? Tough sht. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1133	Posted - 2013.11.22 19:40:00 - [21] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: What makes pc so **** is that dust mercs control it, not eve. Opening up more regions would just make it an even bigger problem. Give eve pilots control, let them build surface infrastructure and let us be mercs, reduce those fking carebear timers as well and have eve pilots ferry us, time is dependent on ship travel time and not some childish mummies boy timer and fix lag. Pc needs to be more about what your actually fighting over as well, for a neckbeard any match matters but for an adult there has to be a reason to put in effort which this game completely lacks at the mo. Tldr? Tough sht. IDK, I think it would be cool if PI installations on a District determined what sort of District upgrades we could install. If PI installations were directly linked to what we could do with a District, it would force more collaboration with Eve pilots. Allow Eve pilots to see the Districts on the planets as well as who they were occupied by. When fighting over Districts, we could have multitierd battles capturing the Dust analogues of the PI installations on the District. Have it so that having your PI District occupied gave you benefits on both sides (maybe Eve gets increased output and Dust gets a couple hundred thousand ISK earned Passively, though no more than the equivalent of a pub or two per day per District). This would increase the connections between games while not forcing Eve pilots to rely 100% on Dust mercs. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1474	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:22:00 - [22] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: What makes pc so **** is that dust mercs control it, not eve. Opening up more regions would just make it an even bigger problem. Give eve pilots control, let them build surface infrastructure and let us be mercs, reduce those fking carebear timers as well and have eve pilots ferry us, time is dependent on ship travel time and not some childish mummies boy timer and fix lag. Pc needs to be more about what your actually fighting over as well, for a neckbeard any match matters but for an adult there has to be a reason to put in effort which this game completely lacks at the mo. Tldr? Tough sht. IDK, I think it would be cool if PI installations on a District determined what sort of District upgrades we could install. If PI installations were directly linked to what we could do with a District, it would force more collaboration with Eve pilots. Allow Eve pilots to see the Districts on the planets as well as who they were occupied by. When fighting over Districts, we could have multitierd battles capturing the Dust analogues of the PI installations on the District. Have it so that having your PI District occupied gave you benefits on both sides (maybe Eve gets increased output and Dust gets a couple hundred thousand ISK earned Passively, though no more than the equivalent of a pub or two per day per District). This would increase the connections between games while not forcing Eve pilots to rely 100% on Dust mercs. For there to be a connection eve pilots and dust 'mercs' need to need each other for things, where's the link between the two if we don't rely on each other? I'll tell you where, talking in a chat window together or dropping ob's, wow now that's some connection right? No. We are supposed to be mercs, start thinking like it, eve pilots would be pissed off if a bunch of scrubber ground dwellers start controlling more land (pointlessly) or gaining sovereignty (ridiculous idea) when we don't even have a use for it lol. Trust me adding bits and pieces doesn't mean sweet fa when the mechanics and gameplay are going to sht or already just that. I'm not discarding your idea, I just can't see the difference between now and that except for a few mediocre sprinkles that would get boring and same sht on day one. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1474	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:29:00 - [23] - Quote The lag in pc would go a long way to fixing it on its own though, I'd actually play it then, my tablet can handle 3d fps with decent graphics, 12v12 multiplayer, sort it out CCP lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1474	Posted - 2013.11.22 20:39:00 - [24] - Quote Further to that, we could gain standings with eve corps for working for them that increases our rewards in isk but make it so you don't lose standings because you did work for another corp, you could potentially gain good standings with multiple corps. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.


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