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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:49:00 -
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Currently it is widely acknowledged that Logistics suits are far superior to assaults at performing the front-line aggressor role. This thread is intending to address that issue by buffing the assault suits abilities to perform its role, rather than nerfing logistics suits.
Changes to the slot layout of the assault suits:
None (these are fine though a tad more CPU or PG would allow the suits to fit more aggressive modules and provide a larger range of high end fitting options.
Changes to the assault skill bonses:
Rework this skill to be +1% to weapon damage per level. The current general skill bonus provides a boost to shield recharge rate which while useful for the shield tanking suits is about as good as no bonus at all for the armor tanking ones. A switch to a damage bonus for this suit would give it added killing power over the logi thus pushing it to be used more by aggressive players.
--It should be noted that this change was originally suggested by KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Changes to the racial assault skill bonses:
Amarr - No change to the bonus. It works great as is.
Caldar - Option 1: +5% more optimal range per level (this would come out as being +2.5% at the high end of the optimal and +2.5% at the low end of the optimal giving it a broader kill zone per level).
Minmatar - +5% magazine capacity for projectile weapons per level (the side-arm bonus would be much neater in the hands of a scout) which would boost mag size for the flaylock, massdriver, SMG and the battle rifle
Gallente - +3% Rate of Fire on all blaster weapons per level. This would increase the ROF on a standard AR to 862.5 RPM at level 5 Gallente Assualt.
The Gallente bonus might seem over powered but I'm also proposing a change to the way barrel climb works on all projectile weapons with a (damage per round x .01)-¦ meaning that a duvolle would climb 21-¦ when firing the whole mag non-stop. This change should effect all weapons as it would add to fun/skill involved in shooting. This should be implemented with my much earlier suggestion of linking barrel sway to % of stamina remaining.
I will repost the suggested changes to barrel climb separately since I think this ideas is worthy of the communities attention in a thread devoted entirely to this topic.
Fun > Realism
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:59:00 -
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You know that when CCP/Shanghai finally delivers the entire set of racial suits they will re-balance every suit, right?
This is reasonable input for that process, but it loses it value when you wrap it in the anti-Logi QQ that floods these forums. If CCP/Shanghai wants the game to play differently they would. Use the gear that fits how you want to play the game. Let others make their own decisions.
When they decide to change them it with a series of Ninja Nerfs. Gods save us.  |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:09:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:You know that when CCP/Shanghai finally delivers the entire set of racial suits they will re-balance every suit, right? This is reasonable input for that process, but it loses it value when you wrap it in the anti-Logi QQ that floods these forums. If CCP/Shanghai wants the game to play differently they would. Use the gear that fits how you want to play the game. Let others make their own decisions. When they decide to change them it with a series of Ninja Nerfs. Gods save us.
Good point. I am removing the initial paragraph of my OP to distance this idea from the whole anti-logi QQ.
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Fiddler Galaine
Northwind Alliance
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:32:00 -
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It's a nice idea, although those numbers a bit high. You know, I wish my Gallente assault could fire an AR at supersonic speeds, but that would just funnel everyone towards that class, especially the way things are now. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
973
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:37:00 -
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Fiddler Galaine wrote:It's a nice idea, although those numbers a bit high. You know, I wish my Gallente assault could fire an AR at supersonic speeds, but that would just funnel everyone towards that class, especially the way things are now.
You think so? Even when combined with the barrel climb suggestion (see the bottom of the post). Having barrel climb work like that would mean at max level you would get 4.8-¦ of barrel climb per second (which is only 14 rounds fired by the way) from a standard AR. If you don't think that would be enough of a counter to the increased ROF it can definitely be tuned down.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
7974
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:02:00 -
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The only thing I don't like about the bonuses is that it limits people to racial weapons. Not sure exactly what the bonuses and numbers could be, but maybe this could be something to build on:
Gallente = Weapon and weapon mod CPU/PG fitting reduction. (grenades included)
Amarr = Heat reduction on all weapons
Caldari = Range bonus on all weapons
Minmatar = Clip size on all weapons
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
976
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:06:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The only thing I don't like about the bonuses is that it limits people to racial weapons. Not sure exactly what the bonuses and numbers could be, but maybe this could be something to build on:
Gallente = Weapon and weapon mod CPU/PG fitting reduction. (grenades included)
Amarr = Heat reduction on all weapons
Caldari = Range bonus on all weapons
Minmatar = Clip size on all weapons
I hear what you are saying but Eve gives this kind of bonus on its ships (ie same reacial weapon type as the ship gets a bonus) so this would support the same mechanic.
Fun > Realism
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Cosgar
ParagonX
7974
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:12:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Cosgar wrote:The only thing I don't like about the bonuses is that it limits people to racial weapons. Not sure exactly what the bonuses and numbers could be, but maybe this could be something to build on:
Gallente = Weapon and weapon mod CPU/PG fitting reduction. (grenades included)
Amarr = Heat reduction on all weapons
Caldari = Range bonus on all weapons
Minmatar = Clip size on all weapons I hear what you are saying but Eve gives this kind of bonus on its ships (ie same reacial weapon type as the ship gets a bonus) so this would support the same mechanic.
Makes sense on paper, but think of how many dust players actually give a crap about EVE lore. We should giving everyone more options, not taking them away.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
574
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:47:00 -
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I sctually think the assault suits should have a different slot layout compared to the racial medium frames. As it is the slot layout that dictates what you can do with the suit. I just hope CCP will rebalance the dropsuit tree sooner rather than later. The "logi best suit in game"Gäó is getting boring.
KDR > ALL
ME > KDR
ME > ALL
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