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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:55:00 -
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yes or no. |
Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:55:00 -
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Yes |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
464
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:55:00 -
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bacon
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:56:00 -
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I don't know. I'm not an AR user. At least only with the 'Exile' AR with absolutely no SP invested into ARs at all. I'm a Nova Knifer. Are one-hit-kill weapons like the NK factored into this conversation?
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
611
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:57:00 -
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yes
"Fight Togheter; Win Together"
Duster Since: July 2012
Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
427
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I don't know. I'm not an AR user. At least only with the 'Exile' AR with absolutely no SP invested into ARs at all. I'm a Nova Knifer. Are one-hit-kill weapons like the NK factored into this conversation?
To maken: no
To the OP: yes
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
368
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I don't know. I'm not an AR user. At least only with the 'Exile' AR with absolutely no SP invested into ARs at all. I'm a Nova Knifer. Are one-hit-kill weapons like the NK factored into this conversation?
I assumed we were talking specifically about mid range rifles, in a stand-and-deliver sort of way. Things like melee weapons, AOE weapons, sniper rifles, etc, aren't analyzable in the same way. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
478
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:59:00 -
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Nein.
HTFU! Adapt or Die!
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
838
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:59:00 -
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Yay.
<1.5 Second TTK should be reserved for high skill weapons, such as Nova Knives and Plasma Cannons.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:00:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:bacon
Unless you're cooking bacon for me, don't even say that word. |
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:02:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I don't know. I'm not an AR user. At least only with the 'Exile' AR with absolutely no SP invested into ARs at all. I'm a Nova Knifer. Are one-hit-kill weapons like the NK factored into this conversation? I assumed we were talking specifically about mid range rifles, in a stand-and-deliver sort of way. Things like melee weapons, AOE weapons, sniper rifles, etc, aren't analyzable in the same way.
yeah, those by default need to be higher DPS to fill their roles properly
shotguns, snipers,
(Because shotguns are worthless at mid and long, and snipers are worthless at mid and short)
Thats their trade off. But all this mid range weaponry shouldn't all be as quick to kill as a shotgun |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:03:00 -
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As long as it's reasonably high. I'm not looking for ARMA III here (though I love that game) but I'm not looking for the other end of the spectrum Section 8 style either in which it could potentially take forever if you had two overly-clever players.
I do like it taking a bit though, as we should be tough buggers, dropsuits and vehicles and all.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Centurion mkII
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:04:00 -
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No.
Fittings has less meaning then.
Will my fit work?
Dust 514 Fitting Tool
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:04:00 -
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A little higher, "slow and steady wins the race" <--- which I think is CCP's motto... |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:06:00 -
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Centurion mkII wrote:No.
Fittings has less meaning then.
I assumed it would be the inverse
If less fitting had to go towards EHP and DPS because you had more EHP built in and DPS wasn't going to Gib an enemy instantly anyhow,
then it seems there would be more room for E-war type modules and dampeners etc |
Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
464
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:06:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:bacon Unless you're cooking bacon for me, don't even say that word.
My serious answer is...
I can adapt to the situation... I think that for gear progression work we need to have a long TTK ... BUTTTT ... It's really boring shooting at someone and not killing them. The equilibrium of both is ideal...
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:08:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:As long as it's reasonably high. I'm not looking for ARMA III here (though I love that game) but I'm not looking for the other end of the spectrum Section 8 style either in which it could potentially take forever if you had two overly-clever players.
I do like it taking a bit though, as we should be tough buggers, dropsuits and vehicles and all.
Is Arma 3 worth the money? Getting a new GPU shortly, and should be as to run it around medium with it.
To OP, it could be slightly slower. I don't quite care, have a decent amount of fun either way.
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Replication Warrior
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
838
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:08:00 -
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Centurion mkII wrote:No.
Fittings has less meaning then.
Actually, they would have more meaning. Speed and Stealth tanking would suddenly become much more viable, and non EHP related modules would become more attractive when people don't have to brick tank to survive for longer than a second.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
2275
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:10:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:bacon Unless you're cooking bacon for me, don't even say that word. My serious answer is... I can adapt to the situation... I think that for gear progression work we need to have a long TTK ... BUTTTT ... It's really boring shooting at someone and not killing them. The equilibrium of both is ideal...
I imagine it playing out like an old west gun fight
Hiding behind walls, poking out, people repping up, someone goes full rage mode and charges the enemy point with grenades to knock out healer + equipment. Hence playing more to terrain advantages, holding strategic defensive positions for a few moments in large sockets,
Right now its kinda more CoD ish.
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Vell0cet
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
575
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:12:00 -
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Yes!
TTK was too long in 1.3, slightly too short in 1.4/1.5 (but close), and game-breaking too short in 1.6.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:13:00 -
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE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(Could I be any clearer?)
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:17:00 -
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I CAN'T HEAR YOUU |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:19:00 -
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Yes and No.
Yes, high TTK should be what sets Dust apart from most FPS, however, there should be exceptions.
The exceptions should include headshots, extreme CQC (NK, SG from <5m), oversized weaponry (large turrets), orbitals and explosives. Some of these instances should always be OHK and some should be at most 2HK (in the case of ridiculously tanked heavies).
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
498
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:19:00 -
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Yes.
Like Fizzer said, weapons with niche, and a huge skill factor (NK, PC, etc.), or very situational weapons (SG, NK) should have the lower TTK.
Low skill weapons (full or semi auto, yes you AR and SCR, and weapons that vastly benefit from auto aim and aim assist) should have lower much higher TTK, but of course, they're easier to use.
Finally, reduce auto aim and aim assist to pre-(1.4 I think it was when they introduced the upgraded aim assist?). And if AA was increased to give KB/M users a disadvantage, then take KB/M off. I used to use KB/M but if I have to give that up to not get assault rifled around a corner, then I'm good with it...
Minnie Scout & Logi
Greatness achieved through persistance.
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:23:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Centurion mkII wrote:No.
Fittings has less meaning then. I assumed it would be the inverse If less fitting had to go towards EHP and DPS because you had more EHP built in and DPS wasn't going to Gib an enemy instantly anyhow, then it seems there would be more room for E-war type modules and dampeners etc
agreed has to be a Yes
but it means Armor and Shield mods should not provide as much as they do now but the base numbers should be changed to make up for it
I Support SP Rollover
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Justice Prevails
100
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:25:00 -
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Yep. Game got real boring with low ttk. Saw you first, I win. Starting to miss getting killed by the flaylocks and murder taxis. DUST was more fun back then.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1555
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:26:00 -
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yea.
Dedicated heavy, tanker, and pilot.
You could say i like heavy things.
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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:05:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Nein.
HTFU! Adapt or Die!
When you find a way for scouts too adapt give me a call
Maybe I'll get buff one day
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
479
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:14:00 -
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negative49er wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Nein.
HTFU! Adapt or Die! When you find a way for scouts too adapt give me a call
Your doin' it wrong.
There are absolutely no flaws with Dust514 which is your deity's gift to humanity. If you applied yourself you would find that you can make scouts way too op.
Git gud scrub.
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
140
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:16:00 -
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Agree. |
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:16:00 -
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I specced into AR Proficiency just so I could have that extra damage bonus.
Now its useless, I could use a Toxin without skills and still slap people around with it 
ö/\ö :D
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4674
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:22:00 -
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YES ^100 ^100 ^100
This is more YESs than the universe can handle.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
7145
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:23:00 -
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Yes
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
1584
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:YES ^100 ^100 ^100
This is more YESs than the universe can handle.
YES^600^700^999999^8^1^2^4756736837494733789949349261657490298463564883
I win.
ö/\ö :D
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
310
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:27:00 -
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Yes, High TTK made this game special. It made it require skill.
Dust five hundred and fourteen! Am i saying it correctly?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1008
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:32:00 -
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I would agree, I don't like the over inflated damage. It was a major issue with HAVs a while back with so many means to increase damage and it made defenses essentially meaningless. An adjustment to the bonus of damage mods, or an increase to their fitting cost would do wonders in increasing the TTK to a reasonable level.
ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
955
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:18:00 -
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Yes.
Reason: It allows the game to support more playstyles than just tanking DPS or eHP for that extra hit or two advantage.
If you want playstyles like Scout or Heavy to be able to survive in gameplay, a higher TTK is necessary and more fun anyways.
Now, not to say that the TTK should be ridiculously high. Ideally to me, your run of the mill TTK for suit types would be:
Light Frame: 4 seconds
Medium Frame: 5.5-7.0 sec
Heavy Frame: 10-11.5 sec
Hopefully at the same time each suit types strengths and weaknesses would be emphasized so that gameplay would be more about the rock paper scissors aspect instead of just straight eHP versus DPS...
There is a strong chance you won't like what I have to say.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1806
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:26:00 -
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Yes, a reasonable time to kill seemed to give us more tactical options. |
Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
220
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:45:00 -
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Disagree to a high TTK but this current one is too short it could be increaded but too high is even worse than this the main issue with high TTK is that medium and long range become far less viable fights as people are far more safe covering ground as they have more time to get to cover therefore forcing the average fatal engagement range into CQC where there is no where to hide. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
323
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:01:00 -
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Yes...with a the caveat that it should be a moderate TTK not high or low.
The baseline TTK should be significantly effected by the fittings and SP allocation of the individual...the problem is that I can take a Toxin AR with not a single SP into the AR skill tree and shred all but the most significantly tanked suits. When I use proto ASCR with my Prof 3 skils....ouch. The concern is that the tank / buffer fit simply doesn't work right now.
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g forc3
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:40:00 -
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YES SIMPLE AS THAT
My ATL approves.
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