DUST Search - [Idea] Shaped charge - The Remote Explosive of AV

Harpyja wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

## This thread assumes 1.7 tanks

Basically, a remote explosive that can stick to stuff.
However, it will only damage things it's stuck on, like installations or vehicles.

It will be a high risk high reward type of deal for AV, as they would have to get in close and personal to set them up on a tank, but if the tanker doesn't notice them, they can do massive damage to the tank.

Numbers out of my ass:
2000 damage, 3 active at any given time (So a total of 6000 damage).

These will stick to a tank, so once the cooldown is off, it could be detonated.

I'll only support this if we have some sort of countermeasures, perhaps some sort of ECM which destroys anything attached to the outside of the hull.

But given that we don't even have countermeasures for swarms, I can't support your idea.

Before you say "but killing the person is a countermeasure," that shouldn't always be the only countermeasure. Take Battlefield: you can kill AA infantry or vehicles, but you also have flares as a basic countermeasure towards IR missiles.

So until we're given ECM, I must say no.

Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4647	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:43:00 - [1] - Quote ## This thread assumes 1.7 tanks Basically, a remote explosive that can stick to stuff. However, it will only damage things it's stuck on, like installations or vehicles. It will be a high risk high reward type of deal for AV, as they would have to get in close and personal to set them up on a tank, but if the tanker doesn't notice them, they can do massive damage to the tank. Numbers out of my ass: 2000 damage, 3 active at any given time (So a total of 6000 damage). These will stick to a tank, so once the cooldown is off, it could be detonated. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Draco Cerberus Hell's Gate Inc 524	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:20:00 - [2] - Quote Reminds me of sticking REs in LAVs and rolling them off the tops of the towers in Line Harvest *One Universe...with friendly fire and Open World Game Play for all!*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4673	Posted - 2013.11.21 00:28:00 - [3] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: Reminds me of sticking REs in LAVs and rolling them off the tops of the towers in Line Harvest meow Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 154	Posted - 2013.11.21 00:51:00 - [4] - Quote That would make no sense to have them only damage What they are attached to. It isan explosion after all. Instead, have a very tiny explosion in the range of 1-1.5m to limit there ability to cause damageoutside of what they are stuck to.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4673	Posted - 2013.11.21 01:03:00 - [5] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: That would make no sense to have them only damage What they are attached to. It isan explosion after all. Instead, have a very tiny explosion in the range of 1-1.5m to limit there ability to cause damageoutside of what they are stuck to. I talked with a tanker on skype and he had a valid concern. Doom taxis + Shaped charges to the front ramming into a tank = doom. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 267	Posted - 2013.11.21 02:54:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: That would make no sense to have them only damage What they are attached to. It isan explosion after all. Instead, have a very tiny explosion in the range of 1-1.5m to limit there ability to cause damageoutside of what they are stuck to. I talked with a tanker on skype and he had a valid concern. Doom taxis + Shaped charges to the front ramming into a tank = doom. Well, lets say the shaped charges explode in one specific direction; that is, perpendicular to the surface they are stuck to. They would not explode outwards, only inwards, meaning that if you drive into something, you would leave possibly a slight burn mark on the surface you crashed into, why your LAV would be nothing but smoldering remains. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 797	Posted - 2013.11.21 03:41:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: ## This thread assumes 1.7 tanks Basically, a remote explosive that can stick to stuff. However, it will only damage things it's stuck on, like installations or vehicles. It will be a high risk high reward type of deal for AV, as they would have to get in close and personal to set them up on a tank, but if the tanker doesn't notice them, they can do massive damage to the tank. Numbers out of my ass: 2000 damage, 3 active at any given time (So a total of 6000 damage). These will stick to a tank, so once the cooldown is off, it could be detonated. I'll only support this if we have some sort of countermeasures, perhaps some sort of ECM which destroys anything attached to the outside of the hull. But given that we don't even have countermeasures for swarms, I can't support your idea. Before you say "but killing the person is a countermeasure," that shouldn't always be the only countermeasure. Take Battlefield: you can kill AA infantry or vehicles, but you also have flares as a basic countermeasure towards IR missiles. So until we're given ECM, I must say no. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Joel II X AHPA 191	Posted - 2013.11.21 03:47:00 - [8] - Quote Sounds like those C4 players who like to run up to tanks and blowing them up sky high. Why can't you just ask for C4s?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4682	Posted - 2013.11.21 06:47:00 - [9] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ## This thread assumes 1.7 tanks Basically, a remote explosive that can stick to stuff. However, it will only damage things it's stuck on, like installations or vehicles. It will be a high risk high reward type of deal for AV, as they would have to get in close and personal to set them up on a tank, but if the tanker doesn't notice them, they can do massive damage to the tank. Numbers out of my ass: 2000 damage, 3 active at any given time (So a total of 6000 damage). These will stick to a tank, so once the cooldown is off, it could be detonated. I'll only support this if we have some sort of countermeasures, perhaps some sort of ECM which destroys anything attached to the outside of the hull. But given that we don't even have countermeasures for swarms, I can't support your idea. Before you say "but killing the person is a countermeasure," that shouldn't always be the only countermeasure. Take Battlefield: you can kill AA infantry or vehicles, but you also have flares as a basic countermeasure towards IR missiles. So until we're given ECM, I must say no. C4 has no counter measure. It's the highest risk maneuver, and it is rewarded for the only counter to it being is to kill the operator. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4683	Posted - 2013.11.21 06:49:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Sounds like those C4 players who like to run up to tanks and blowing them up sky high. Why can't you just ask for C4s (stickier remote explosives)? Because it creates problems like the Jihad jeep thing. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.



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