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ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 517	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:03:00 - [1] - Quote seems to me ccp has found a way to rid us of our bpo's and there is nothing we can do about it. simply change how that specific module works or remove the militia version of it and its gone. if you want to keep your bpo's you need to put your foot down now before they go too far and there is nothing we can do about it. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 517	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Nice fear mongering there. Too bad it won't work. CCP already said they won't do anything else with the rest of the BPOs. ccp said they wont do anything with bpo's in inventory.... what are ccp doing again in 1.7.... removing some bpo's from inventory. its only been about 3 weeks since they said they were not going to do this and now they are doing it. think we cant take their word for it now after springing this on everyone. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 517	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:17:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Nice fear mongering there. Too bad it won't work. CCP already said they won't do anything else with the rest of the BPOs. ccp said they wont do anything with bpo's in inventory.... what are ccp doing again in 1.7.... removing some bpo's from inventory. its only been about 3 weeks since they said they were not going to do this and now they are doing it. think we cant take their word for it now after springing this on everyone. At least they're refunding those BPOs at the marked-up AUR prices you see now. Keep in mind that back then BPOs use to cost only 50-100 AUR a piece. yes and thats a whole other issue. ccp printing millions of aur into players hands. i paid full so thats not the issue for me. the issue is it starts with something little like this and next thing you know all bpo's are gone even the merc pack ones and the tester ones from beta. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 519	Posted - 2013.11.20 21:30:00 - [4] - Quote Terram Nenokal wrote: BPOs are terrible for this game. It was an awful idea to have them in to begin with. Good riddance. Love, An owner of many BPOs. more awful than aur proto gear. this is what gets me. people are more concerned with someone saving a few thousand isk per suit by fitting militia bpo's than they are about people who use adv/proto aur gear. people think bpo's are going to ruin the player market but who is going to buy militia gear from a player anyway. wait until people start buying aur weapons and selling them on the market for less than they are to manufacture normally. now thats going to be more of an impact on the player market than any militia bpo's. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 529	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:37:00 - [5] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Nice fear mongering there. Too bad it won't work. CCP already said they won't do anything else with the rest of the BPOs. ccp said they wont do anything with bpo's in inventory.... what are ccp doing again in 1.7.... removing some bpo's from inventory. its only been about 3 weeks since they said they were not going to do this and now they are doing it. think we cant take their word for it now after springing this on everyone. The only reason these BPOs are being removed is because all their versions are also being removed, any version of these items, BPO or not is going to be removed entirely. Do you even read the updates? and this is exactly what i'm getting at. did you even read the op. ccp can't remove our items without uproar about it. so what they do is remove the version the bpo is based on and now that item is now forced to be removed as it is no longer available. they can pull this same tactic with all of our existing bpo's even the unique ones and all they will say is well we did it before and no one cared. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 529	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:39:00 - [6] - Quote 4447 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: seems to me ccp has found a way to rid us of our bpo's and there is nothing we can do about it. simply change how that specific module works or remove the militia version of it and its gone. if you want to keep your bpo's you need to put your foot down now before they go too far and there is nothing we can do about it. Link, please. look at the 1.7 changes.. they removed some of the militia vehicle items so by default the militia bpo's associated with these items are no longer in the game so the bpos are being removed also Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 529	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:44:00 - [7] - Quote i was fully aware my bpos would eventually be rendered useless as we see them today but when eve manufacturing came into question then these bpos would take on a different role i.e sell the thing on or make my own. not just wiped from existence and then giving a refund going against something they said was never going to happen. and that was said only a few weeks ago Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 529	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:50:00 - [8] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Which vehicles module BPOs are being removed? Also, where was it confirmed BPOs would be replaced at current market value? I can't imagine CCP just yoloprinting AUR... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1513116 Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 530	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:00:00 - [9] - Quote medomai grey wrote: It is disconcerting that CCP is removing vehicle BPOs from player's inventory. Are our infantry BPOs next? Some of us paid a large sums of money for certain BPOs. what i find even more disconcerting is the statement ccp had sticky on general discussions regarding not removing inventory bpos has been removed completely Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 530	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:02:00 - [10] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: OP, answer my question. Explain why I still have a BPO that literally has no ISK variant in the market? thats a relic from beta and nothing to do with this issue. thats how they used to do it. they not going to do it that way this time Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 530	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:06:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: medomai grey wrote: It is disconcerting that CCP is removing vehicle BPOs from player's inventory. Are our infantry BPOs next? Some of us paid a large sums of money for certain BPOs. It's still not going to happen. Again, look at the financial ramifications especially when accounting for what us closed-beta vets did. but that's exactly what's happening. they are removing these bpos which people have hundreds if not thousands of. how is millions of aur suddenly flooding dust going to affect it. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 530	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:28:00 - [12] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: medomai grey wrote: It is disconcerting that CCP is removing vehicle BPOs from player's inventory. Are our infantry BPOs next? Some of us paid a large sums of money for certain BPOs. It's still not going to happen. Again, look at the financial ramifications especially when accounting for what us closed-beta vets did. but that's exactly what's happening. they are removing these bpos which people have hundreds if not thousands of. how is millions of aur suddenly flooding dust going to affect it. By negatively affecting CCP's future income. Those vets with extra FREE AURUM (boatloads of it) will not spend any more money to CCP for boosters, AUR dropsuits, etc. That's money CCP will not be getting for a long time. So far, I only see 3-4 unique BPOs being removed specifically according to the announcement. Honestly, how many players here really have hundreds of units of those particular BPOs? It's probably not that much which might explain why they're going to refund them. CCP does have the current-day metrics after all. CCP already knows what we have in our hangar. They wouldn't be doing this if there was too much to be refunded. we getting off point here. its not really about the refund. its about them starting with insignificant vehicle module bpos, where will it stop. like i have said before they said they would not do this and then they did it anyway. "bpo's in your inventory will not be removed" and it is going to happen even though they said it wouldnt. they have set the path now for removing all bpo's. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 532	Posted - 2013.11.20 23:39:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: we getting off point here. its not really about the refund. its about them starting with insignificant vehicle module bpos, where will it stop. like i have said before they said they would not do this and then they did it anyway. "bpo's in your inventory will not be removed" and it is going to happen even though they said it wouldnt. they have set the path now for removing all bpo's. Only time will tell if they continue down that path. For now, we're just speculating. how is it speculation. ccp said they don't want bpo's as they are now. thats common knowledge. yet they make a big statement after vegas they would not remove inventory bpo's at all because they knew it would **** off the community that own them. they told us they have no plans to do this. yet in the expansion they had already set in motion they intended to remove bpo's anyway and just bluffed us to keep us quiet. how can we trust anything they have to say on bpo's. ccp will do whatever it takes to forcefully remove these items from us. they have a medium to do this now and that is change the stats or remove the items the bpo's are based on. they can promise anything they want but from what has been said and what has now been done by ccp we can never trust a statement they say again Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 538	Posted - 2013.11.21 00:44:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: There are also the BPOs that people acquired via the Eve Second Decade Collector's Edition. Then there are the BPOs acquired after putting massive effort into recruiting players and getting them to earn up to 100,000 WP each (50 players at least). How can CCP compensate for those BPOs if they get removed? you are missing the point entirely. if ccp decided to change any item that a bpo is based on like they have done with the ones in 1.7 then they could just remove the bpo without warning like they are planning to do here. seeing as all bpo's are based on militia or standard gear then nothing is safe. yes some items are directly aquired through money items such as the templar gear. that being said these were supplied as bonus items so are in no way protected. same goes for recruit gear... bonus items. ccp could turn round and say they are removing them and there is nothing we can do about it as they were never purchased. aur bpo's on the other hand were purchased hence all the issues. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 539	Posted - 2013.11.21 00:53:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There are also the BPOs that people acquired via the Eve Second Decade Collector's Edition. Then there are the BPOs acquired after putting massive effort into recruiting players and getting them to earn up to 100,000 WP each (50 players at least). How can CCP compensate for those BPOs if they get removed? you are missing the point entirely. if ccp decided to change any item that a bpo is based on like they have done with the ones in 1.7 then they could just remove the bpo without warning like they are planning to do here. seeing as all bpo's are based on militia or standard gear then nothing is safe. yes some items are directly aquired through money items such as the templar gear. that being said these were supplied as bonus items so are in no way protected. same goes for recruit gear... bonus items. ccp could turn round and say they are removing them and there is nothing we can do about it as they were never purchased. aur bpo's on the other hand were purchased hence all the issues. The templar suit BPOs still required real money to acquire. No matter how you slice it. Bonus or no bonus, money is money. in your eyes maybe but a bonus item is not what they were selling. the bonus items was a gift for buying the item and nothing more. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 539	Posted - 2013.11.21 00:54:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Assuming you are right that CCP has that power to remove all BPOs without consideration. Does CCP even have the balls of adimantium to do that right now? they had the balls to promise everyone no inventory bpo's would be removed... how long did that last.. 3 weeks tops and they did it anyway. it shows they have the balls to do whatever they want regardless of how the community will react. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 539	Posted - 2013.11.21 00:56:00 - [17] - Quote Name York wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: There are also the BPOs that people acquired via the Eve Second Decade Collector's Edition. Then there are the BPOs acquired after putting massive effort into recruiting players and getting them to earn up to 100,000 WP each (50 players at least). How can CCP compensate for those BPOs if they get removed? you are missing the point entirely. if ccp decided to change any item that a bpo is based on like they have done with the ones in 1.7 then they could just remove the bpo without warning like they are planning to do here. seeing as all bpo's are based on militia or standard gear then nothing is safe. yes some items are directly aquired through money items such as the templar gear. that being said these were supplied as bonus items so are in no way protected. same goes for recruit gear... bonus items. ccp could turn round and say they are removing them and there is nothing we can do about it as they were never purchased. aur bpo's on the other hand were purchased hence all the issues. Screw that. I bought the eve second decade collectors edition just for the templar gear. I haven't redeemed any of the eve stuff. If they want my templar gear, I want a cash refund and I'll even send back the eve stuff. obviously im taking that point to the extreme but it just goes to show that this first stepping stone they have taken shows how vulnerable our bpo's really are to removal Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 545	Posted - 2013.11.21 07:39:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: seems to me ccp has found a way to rid us of our bpo's and there is nothing we can do about it. simply change how that specific module works or remove the militia version of it and its gone. if you want to keep your bpo's you need to put your foot down now before they go too far and there is nothing we can do about it. You do realize that... ALL 180MM plates are getting Removed. ALL Shield Regenerators getting Removed ALL Shield Resistance Amplifiers getting Removed ALL Power Diagnostic Systems getting Removed With no replacements right? with what they are doing in 1.7 all ccp has to do to remove all militia bpo's is say that militia gear is not working anymore and then remove it. now there are no more militia items so bpo's are obsolite and then they take them from us. then they might decide that they want rid of militia/standard suits so they decide to remove standard varients from the game and replace them with something different but similar. now those bpo's based on those suits are removed because they dont exist anymore. what happens if they decide that lavs were a mistake and want to use atv's and mav's instead. now lav's have no place in dust so they remove those aswell. not saying they will but they have set the ball rolling now with 1.7. they have already show they will go back on anything they have said Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 545	Posted - 2013.11.21 08:01:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1408798#post1408798 1.7 was set in motion months ago. this statement was weeks ago Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 547	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:15:00 - [20] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1408798#post1408798 1.7 was set in motion months ago. this statement was weeks ago. i would just like to point out the "no plans to do so" part What about "no plans to do so" are you confused about? That means at the time of that statement they didn't plan on removing them. Then they changed their minds. If they would have said "we are NOT going to...." then you could throw a hissy fit. they did say they were not going to. hence the statement above. also vehicle changes have been pushed back twice but for the most part everything had already been set in motion but they just needed more time which says to me they knew already these items were going to be removed and chose not to mention anything about it Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 547	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:19:00 - [21] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: you guys are crying about 4 BPO's that are being removed because they will have no function I see no BPO vehicles listed or any modules that will be usable with the new skill tree. this game is getting so sad the forum isn't even fun anymore just a bunch of whinning berries this is not about the bpos that are getting removed. its about how they are being removed and how vulnerable this will leave all our bpos to future removals. not to mention they said they were not going to do this but then snook it into the patch without warning Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 547	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:27:00 - [22] - Quote if ccp spoke to us before stuff like this happened then no one would care but they have a nack for sneaking things in that p****s people off. if they had said a few weeks ago "look we have no plans to remove your bpo's but there is a chance we may have to change some in the future because of some module changes.... if this happened how would you like us to deal with it" etc everything would have been fine and as a community we could have come up with something everyone or most people would accept. this would have put the fate of bpo's in our own hands instead of having them ripped from our grasp with no warning Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 550	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:47:00 - [23] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Adam, please take the time to read this. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122605&find=unread Also, try answering the question presented in that thread. It's very important. i have no concern of the cost or where they were bought from. it is irrelevant to my argument and a completely different issue altogether. my issue is and always has been how they are doing this and what this means for all bpo's in the future. saying 1 thing and doing another is deceptive off ccp. remember ccp had a massive drive in the month leading up to bpo removal from the market for everyone to buy bpo's before they were gone. the issue here is not that they are going, its not that we are getting a refund. its that ccp is being all cloak and dagger about it and that the way they have done it leaves all bpo's at risk Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 553	Posted - 2013.11.22 17:35:00 - [24] - Quote people have not grasped exactly what i'm getting at. i have explained it best i can. i will just favourite this topic and when ccp removes something big like lav bpo's or weapon and suit bpo's i will bring this out again and play the old "I TOLD YOU SO" Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 555	Posted - 2013.11.22 22:20:00 - [25] - Quote i couldn't care less about compensation. i haven't once said anything about it. its all about the integrity of ccp. for them to blatantly lie to the community for weeks and then just throw this at us. thats the problem here. the truth came out in vegas and instead of being honest they decided to cool the community by lying to us. remember all that outrage that forced ccp to come up with the statement in the first place. it is only because the bpo's currently being removed are insignificant that the rest of the community has not got involved like they did then. mark my words. as soon as ccp starts messing with peoples fits then the ***** going to hit the fan, only at that time ccp will say "we did this before and no one cared" Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 558	Posted - 2013.11.23 23:12:00 - [26] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Can nobody be bothered to actually READ? The modules your BPO's stood for are being removed. can you not read. follow the thread before jumping to conclusions about what we are getting at Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 558	Posted - 2013.11.24 00:33:00 - [27] - Quote why do people even bother replying to something they don't understand. this is not about a few insignificant modules being removed. this is about all bpo's and the bigger picture of what ccp has in store for us. what's next in store for us. remove an insignificant bpo now and next thing we know lav bpos and suit bpos get removed without warning. this is a common tactic used all over the world. remove or alter something insignificant and when no one bats an eyelid drop the bombshell and then they have no leg to stand on. ccp will just say to everyone we did this before and you were all happy with it so now we are removing all bpo's. they created these items and even encouraged people to buy them telling us they were safe and then they removed them and didn't warn anyone. this is the big issue i'm trying to get across. it not just bpo's at risk here. it is everything in dust. they could just as easily remove tanks or anything else. when is it not a good idea to consult the community before making changes like this especially when an investment has been made by players. Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 560	Posted - 2013.11.24 03:01:00 - [28] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: seems to me ccp has found a way to rid us of our bpo's and there is nothing we can do about it. simply change how that specific module works or remove the militia version of it and its gone. if you want to keep your bpo's you need to put your foot down now before they go too far and there is nothing we can do about it. All I have to ask is this, GÇ£WHOGÇÖS UNIVERSE IS THIS? DID WE CREATE THIS, OR DID CCP CREATE IT WITH THE MIND SET THAT THEY ARE GODS?GÇ¥ The thing is, every person that plays this game chooses to engage with CCPGÇÖs verso of reality. Does it suck to realize that you have absolutely no control? Sure does, but the funny thing is that you never had any int he first place. If you, at any point in time, thought that there was a microscopic semblance of control resting between your pudgy, little fingers, WELL, you were wrong. It never existed. Get over it. No use crying over spilled milk, especially when you decided to drink from a leaky cup. its our universe. ccp supplies the environment and the tools and we write the story. you can brand eve itself with a"ccp made it so ccp can do what they want" but eve has no paid items in it so any changes do not affect players on a personal level. dust is full of the stuff and for a happy community ccp needs to give confidence in the items they supply us or at the very least communicate with us about stuff before they change or remove it. if not then we have to assume that anything they supply to us may not be the same item the next day. with that risk allot of us will not consider paying for items again from dust. i have spent a damn sight more on this game than i would ever consider spending on any other games but i like it. however if this uncertanty goes on i'm going to have to reconsider. bpo's were a safe way to invest considerable amounts of money into the game without significant portions vanishing into thin air. that whole notion was what got people investing in the first place. we shouldn't have to fight to keep hold of things they sold us. if its a problem ccp should be working with us to find a compromise and not just wipe the items from existence 1 by 1 Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 564	Posted - 2013.11.24 18:58:00 - [29] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Nice fear mongering there. Too bad it won't work. CCP already said they won't do anything else with the rest of the BPOs. When did they say that? All I saw was that 'they do not have IMMEDIATE plans to remove more BPOs'. I think they are testing waters with some peripheral militia BPOs to see how much community push back there is. I am sure more is to come. They will be doing it one BPO at a time quoting game mechanics (as if something really works in the game otherwise: see your nova knives) - this way they wont have a unified wave of community anger until the very end when no BPOs are left. When they say BPOs are not working as intended what they mean is that after an initial bump in profits from selling BPOs they have hit a nadir where ppl are not buying AUR anymore. What a discovery, right? exactly https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 568	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:48:00 - [30] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: Look, BPO's don't work in dust. They break the New Eden model of BPO's and BPC's. Until there is some kind of manufacturing (omg please no) in dust then the BPO situation will always be a bone of contention. I would love to have a BPO Vagabond (as per dust), costs me nothing and have infinite uses of it. you cannot in anyway compare a militia bpo in dust to a vagabond bpo in eve. absolutely no comparison whatsoever. if anything militia is comparable to civilian items you can freely farm of rookie ships. i have done it many times for fun. lose a few rookie ships supplied to me for free but keep the fittings aside. then fit them to a destroyer and shoot some noob in his rookie ship for lol's. does what i did affect the eve economy adversely. i think not. anyway getting off topic once again https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

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