DUST Search - The time for a full respec has come

Chunky Munkey wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Chunky Munkey wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Live with your choices he says

Big ******* problem is that my choices were made some time ago, now CCP has turned the vehicle tree upside down and it now looks completely different

Are they still tanks? Did you pick tanks?
That's your choice.

I picked tanks and the skills i wanted for whatever reason i had at the time

Now i have new skills such as the CPU electronics skills which no longer adds 5% CPU per level and also i lose mods and vehicles to boot

I am a pilot, i skilled into all vehicles, no im losing 6 vehicles, 8 including the surya/sagaris

Its like taking your infantry tree and then turning it upside down while making it a bigger SP sink, take your favourite suit now lets replace the skill bonus it gets per level with something useless like 'once you take over 50% damage you will randomly blow up in 10seconds' and this increases by 10% per level so you will blow up in 5seconds at level 5 and then make it a x16 SP multiplier

Now you will die alot more, your KDR will plummet and you will be useless on the battlefield, would you like a respec?

It isn't being turned upside down, stop trying to blow it out of proportion.

You picked a role, and you still have it. HTFU.

You don't hear scouts asking for respecs, you hear them asking for balances & new content.
The fact that some tankers don't do the same says to me that they really just wanted to roll about the battlefield with impunity.


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Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1714	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:03:00 - [1] - Quote Live with your choices he says Big ******* problem is that my choices were made some time ago, now CCP has turned the vehicle tree upside down and it now looks completely different
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1716	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:59:00 - [2] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Live with your choices he says Big ******* problem is that my choices were made some time ago, now CCP has turned the vehicle tree upside down and it now looks completely different Are they still tanks? Did you pick tanks? That's your choice. I picked tanks and the skills i wanted for whatever reason i had at the time Now i have new skills such as the CPU electronics skills which no longer adds 5% CPU per level and also i lose mods and vehicles to boot I am a pilot, i skilled into all vehicles, no im losing 6 vehicles, 8 including the surya/sagaris Its like taking your infantry tree and then turning it upside down while making it a bigger SP sink, take your favourite suit now lets replace the skill bonus it gets per level with something useless like 'once you take over 50% damage you will randomly blow up in 10seconds' and this increases by 10% per level so you will blow up in 5seconds at level 5 and then make it a x16 SP multiplier Now you will die alot more, your KDR will plummet and you will be useless on the battlefield, would you like a respec?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1726	Posted - 2013.11.21 12:27:00 - [3] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Live with your choices he says Big ******* problem is that my choices were made some time ago, now CCP has turned the vehicle tree upside down and it now looks completely different Are they still tanks? Did you pick tanks? That's your choice. I picked tanks and the skills i wanted for whatever reason i had at the time Now i have new skills such as the CPU electronics skills which no longer adds 5% CPU per level and also i lose mods and vehicles to boot I am a pilot, i skilled into all vehicles, no im losing 6 vehicles, 8 including the surya/sagaris Its like taking your infantry tree and then turning it upside down while making it a bigger SP sink, take your favourite suit now lets replace the skill bonus it gets per level with something useless like 'once you take over 50% damage you will randomly blow up in 10seconds' and this increases by 10% per level so you will blow up in 5seconds at level 5 and then make it a x16 SP multiplier Now you will die alot more, your KDR will plummet and you will be useless on the battlefield, would you like a respec? It isn't being turned upside down, stop trying to blow it out of proportion. You picked a role, and you still have it. HTFU. You don't hear scouts asking for respecs, you hear them asking for balances & new content. The fact that some tankers don't do the same says to me that they really just wanted to roll about the battlefield with impunity. The vehicles have changed The mods have changed Some mods have been removed The skills are being changed and also removed We have now lost 8vehicles in total How is it not being completely changed?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1777	Posted - 2013.11.25 12:36:00 - [4] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1517540#post1517540 CCP has two options: 1. Only allow refunded SP to be put back into vehicles, so that vehicle pilots' choices have consequences. By not doing this will allow vehicle pilots to do whatever they want with their SP like putting all/most of their SP into infantry and their choices wouldn't have consequences, while everyone else's choices have consequences. I assume it would likely be impossible for CCP to do this, so that brings me to the other option. 2. Give everyone a full respec. This is by far the most fair solution. If they don't give everyone a full respec CCP is playing favorites by giving vehicle pilots an unfair advantage. Spent in the same role but doesnt go as anywhere as far as in 1.6 Frankly CCP knew they were making the SP sink bigger by a factor of 3, players did not know unless you wanted to hold onto your SP for the next year and half I skilled into a secondary role in infantry to help out for PC but since the SP sink for vehicles has been increased by a factor of 3 it means i need all my SP out of infantry Likewise if someone wants to go all vehicles they need every SP they have A full respec is the logical choice and outweighs all negatives and can only give positives When will another total rebalance of any part of the skill tree happen again? frankly it wont and the vehicle tree changes are the biggest to hit and the last to be changed in a long time, all infantry and infantry weapons/mods were balanced long ago with only small changes now n again but this is a 1st for vehicles
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1780	Posted - 2013.11.25 13:44:00 - [5] - Quote I planned for the vehicle tree, i worked it out how much SP it would take for me to spec it out, i planned ahead Once i specced out my vehicle tree i started planning for the pilot suits, they never arrived but i managed to save up 8mil SP No more vehicles were arriving and the vehicle patch was way off in the future, could have been a year maybe more so i spent my SP on a secondary role Now CCP has changed the amount of SP needed to be a vehicle specialist by a factor of 3, the amount i have now will not cover what i need in 1.7 I need my SP out of infantry to be even close to what i can do now in 1.7 I planned ahead and finished the vehicle tree, now CCP has changed the SP amount so its more of a sink so i now need even more SP to spec out in the vehicle tree I made my choices, i planned it out and finished the vehicle tree which made me competitve in PC, im happy with my SP in where they are, but between vehicles and infantry i want to go full vehicles and the amount of SP needed in 1.7 has gone up by a factor of 3 In 1.6 i had access to every mod and vehicle (not lolenforcers) Now i need to put every SP i have into vehicles because they changed it all around and increased the amount needed