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pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 77	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:03:00 - [1] - Quote Seems to be unreasonable. Why not just respec everyone. Seems not right if someone has 15 mill sp in vehicles. That's just like them getting a full respect. So they get two and infantry people only get one? What's the deal. Give everyone a respect to be fair.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 897	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:05:00 - [2] - Quote nope. don't qq.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 77	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:06:00 - [3] - Quote low genius wrote: nope. don't suck d like me.
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Top Men. 201	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:14:00 - [4] - Quote Wait, what? Are you daft? Jesus christ this self-entitlement bullshit is going to far. You didn't spec into vehicles. Your skills aren't getting rewritten. It's unreasonable to suggest that people with potentially no skills that are being affected should get a respec. I hate pubbies.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 691	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:17:00 - [5] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: Wait, what? Are you daft? Jesus christ this self-entitlement bullshit is going to far. You didn't spec into vehicles. Your skills aren't getting rewritten. It's unreasonable to suggest that people with potentially no skills that are being affected should get a respec. I hate pubbies. agree, though with less rage *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 1884	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:22:00 - [6] - Quote no cause there are no groundbreaking changes in infantry gameplay. And you seem to forget that the SP required to field vehicles properly is beeing trippled. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2273	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:28:00 - [7] - Quote Nope, infantry skills will not be effected beyond some new gear and that's hardly a groundbreaking change. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 253	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:41:00 - [8] - Quote i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 560	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:53:00 - [9] - Quote Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7846	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:55:00 - [10] - Quote I don't think vehicles will be the only one getting respecs, personally. I think we're getting more dropsuits. It's a long time between now and December 10 Read / Vid / Stream

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1485	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:56:00 - [11] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. wait what?
Evolution-7 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 198	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:57:00 - [12] - Quote Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Thought you quit long time ago. Veteran Pilot "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7846	Posted - 2013.11.20 17:58:00 - [13] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. I think you're missing the point.... Read / Vid / Stream
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 561	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:01:00 - [14] - Quote Even if he was serious or not, it is very easy to get a calculator and see if that skill investment will pay off. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Spycrab Potato Penguin's March 556	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:04:00 - [15] - Quote Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Why would you invest in a skill such as that? It is common sense that those skills are useless. My Limbus' name is Sarah. My Freedom's name is Jeremi. They both would like to say hi.
Spycrab Potato Penguin's March 556	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:05:00 - [16] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I don't think vehicles will be the only one getting respecs, personally. I think we're getting more dropsuits. It's a long time between now and December 10 It's also been a long time between now and May 15th. My Limbus' name is Sarah. My Freedom's name is Jeremi. They both would like to say hi.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1057	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:09:00 - [17] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. Lol hes mad My PS3 is dusty ._. Level 1 Forum Warrior
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 562	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:11:00 - [18] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. Lol hes mad Nah, im amazed this guy can go 40-0 in his logi dropsuit. Im chill. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 949	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:22:00 - [19] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: no cause there are no groundbreaking changes in infantry gameplay. And you seem to forget that the SP required to field vehicles properly is beeing trippled. Pauses from looking at The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 info Right, right, RIGHT!! Its not like the laser is going to be useless in 1.7 and theres new platforms that just launched and a huge bunch of new games that are going to pull away the Dust 514 player base. Goes back to looking at the new info for those games and looks at the pile of games that are on the to do list for Black Friday. Sorry Dust 514 but its bench time in a few days.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 725	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:22:00 - [20] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Seems to be unreasonable. Why not just respec everyone. Seems not right if someone has 15 mill sp in vehicles. That's just like them getting a full respect. So they get two and infantry people only get one? What's the deal. Give everyone a respect to be fair. Had to say it but don't QQ, infantry is not getting a major overhaul tanks on the other hand are getting completely reworked, best you can do is say yep that guy got what he deserved . State Patriots a loyal Caldari based corporation is accepting all Caldari and Amarr to help fight on the front.

Eris Ernaga State Patriots 725	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:25:00 - [21] - Quote Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. The skills aren't useless you save the most pg from the Imperial and Carthum scrambler rifle. There is a lot less pg on suits then there is vehicles meaning every pg matters sadly it is hard to get proficiency 4 and then upgrade a skill that has a higher multiplier then proficiency. State Patriots a loyal Caldari based corporation is accepting all Caldari and Amarr to help fight on the front.
Scheherazade VII 139	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:25:00 - [22] - Quote not until we get the suits and weapons PLEASE I need time to get more SP..... GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 277	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:26:00 - [23] - Quote I speced into AR thinking I was getting the best breach and tac variant now CCP is offering a different breach and tac after inherently giving me the soon to be out dated ones.. So why can't AR users get a refund different ARs are being added...
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 664	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:29:00 - [24] - Quote I really don't want a full respec just to spite you for being childish. But i have my reasons to desire a full respec as well. Arrrg desisions. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Zimander A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 5	Posted - 2013.11.20 18:36:00 - [25] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Seems to be unreasonable. Why not just respec everyone. Seems not right if someone has 15 mill sp in vehicles. That's just like them getting a full respect. So they get two and infantry people only get one? What's the deal. Give everyone a respect to be fair. how many times ppl gone put same post every time about re-space live with u choices i did my mistake and put my SP in to Assault Amarr insted in Logy but now i have bout pro suite and more so stop being a cry baby and accept u mistake
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 407	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:13:00 - [26] - Quote Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. You do realize that in the much more strictly confined suits (with respect to pg/cpu) these skills play a huge role. Most of the time the difference between 1 and 2 PG can mean you have your proto weapon plus proto tank, or proto weapon plus proto grenades. So yes, they really do make a difference. (And use punctuation for the love of God.) Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1492	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:24:00 - [27] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Seems to be unreasonable How is it unreasonable considering a bunch of new skills are added, the trees redone, some skills removed, and modules using skills completely changed? If you don't let them respec then you'll have people missing the prereqs for some low skills, and completely losing (as in gone, vanished, poofed) SP from removed skills... Meanwhile what's changed with infantry? A few items are tweaked and a couple of new rifles. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:41:00 - [28] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: no cause there are no groundbreaking changes in infantry gameplay. And you seem to forget that the SP required to field vehicles properly is beeing trippled. Swarm launcher nerf.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:42:00 - [29] - Quote Zimander wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: Seems to be unreasonable. Why not just respec everyone. Seems not right if someone has 15 mill sp in vehicles. That's just like them getting a full respect. So they get two and infantry people only get one? What's the deal. Give everyone a respect to be fair. how many times ppl gone put same post every time about re-space live with u choices i did my mistake and put my SP in to Assault Amarr insted in Logy but now i have bout pro suite and more so stop being a cry baby and accept u mistake Who cares if we all get respecs
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:45:00 - [30] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: I really don't want a full respec just to spite you for being childish. But i have my reasons to desire a full respec as well. Arrrg desisions. Many of us. have desire to have respecs. The ones that don't are the one's that like what they have full proto wise. I would like to be a heavy. I'm tired of being a LOGI BRO. come bring your hives there or there. put more uplinks. Dang I can't do what I want which is kill.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5189	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:46:00 - [31] - Quote I don't see any problem with only vehicle pilots getting respecs since their profession is the one getting the most overhaul at the moment. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:48:00 - [32] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: Wait, what? Are you daft? Jesus christ this self-entitlement bullshit is going too far. You didn't spec into vehicles. Your skills aren't getting rewritten. It's unreasonable to suggest that people with potentially no skills that are being affected should get a respec. I hate pubbies. FYI... I did spec into vehicles nitwit.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2919	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:49:00 - [33] - Quote This thread reassures why KEQ is for scrubs. The only time a respec for infantry should happen is when they introduce a core suit that should have been in the game in uprising or a complete overhaul to the tree. Anything else is QQ bullshat.
Savage Mangler DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:49:00 - [34] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: The dark cloud wrote: no cause there are no groundbreaking changes in infantry gameplay. And you seem to forget that the SP required to field vehicles properly is beeing trippled. Swarm launcher nerf. This. On a less drastic note, forge guns are going to be needed less as well. I didn't spec into proto forges to obliterate infantry and blaster installations, I did it to hunt down tanks and dropships. A refund for av is understandable. Full respecs, while welcomed in my opinion, are not.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:55:00 - [35] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: This thread reassures why KEQ is for scrubs. The only time a respec for infantry should happen is when they introduce a core suit that should have been in the game in uprising or a complete overhaul to the tree. Anything else is QQ bullshat. No need for name calling sgt d. head
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5191	Posted - 2013.11.20 19:59:00 - [36] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: This thread reassures why KEQ is for scrubs. The only time a respec for infantry should happen is when they introduce a core suit that should have been in the game in uprising or a complete overhaul to the tree. Anything else is QQ bullshat. No need for name calling sgt d. head There is no need for name calling. That is right. But this QQ thread is not needed either. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1298	Posted - 2013.11.20 20:02:00 - [37] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Seems to be unreasonable. Why not just respec everyone. Seems not right if someone has 15 mill sp in vehicles. That's just like them getting a full respect. So they get two and infantry people only get one? What's the deal. Give everyone a respect to be fair. There is no such thing as a fotm with vehicles, considering how limited our stuff is... "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå I Support SP Rollover, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP !!!
Savage Mangler DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2013.11.20 20:04:00 - [38] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: knight of 6 wrote: I really don't want a full respec just to spite you for being childish. But i have my reasons to desire a full respec as well. Arrrg desisions. Many of us. have desire to have respecs. The ones that don't are the one's that like what they have full proto wise. I would like to be a heavy. I'm tired of being a LOGI BRO. come bring your hives there or there. put more uplinks. Dang I can't do what I want which is kill. Being a heavybro, I can tell you that you don't get to do much more killing than a logi. Unless you have enclosed spaces or plenty of chokepoints, you end up either just being a minor nuisance to the enemy, a slow ****** wannabe assault, or forge gun wielding hooligan. There's a reason ive been speccing into scout. At least there's a level of excitement to them.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 20:07:00 - [39] - Quote Savage Mangler wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: knight of 6 wrote: I really don't want a full respec just to spite you for being childish. But i have my reasons to desire a full respec as well. Arrrg desisions. Many of us. have desire to have respecs. The ones that don't are the one's that like what they have full proto wise. I would like to be a heavy. I'm tired of being a LOGI BRO. come bring your hives there or there. put more uplinks. Dang I can't do what I want which is kill. Being a heavybro, I can tell you that you don't get to do much more killing than a logi. Unless you have enclosed spaces or plenty of chokepoints, you end up either just being a minor nuisance to the enemy, a slow ****** wannabe assault, or forge gun wielding hooligan. There's a reason ive been speccing into scout. At least there's a level of excitement to them. I wanna be fat boy. It better suits me.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.11.20 20:09:00 - [40] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: pdiddy anfama wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: This thread reassures why KEQ is for scrubs. The only time a respec for infantry should happen is when they introduce a core suit that should have been in the game in uprising or a complete overhaul to the tree. Anything else is QQ bullshat. No need for name calling sgt d. head There is no need for name calling. That is right. But this QQ thread is not needed either. No qq here just simple sense.

Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 255	Posted - 2013.11.20 22:11:00 - [41] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. uhm, come again? im asking for ccp to make level 4 and 5 stand out just as much in DUST as most skills do in EVE. Why even have 5 skill levels of AR pg when the last 2 dont even help much at all. i got 27 million SP and just felt like maxing out the AR tree, but maxing out the pg side of it didnt make any difference to my builds. -3 for ******.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 697	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:07:00 - [42] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Even if he was serious or not, it is very easy to get a calculator and see if that skill investment will pay off. broken mechanic... *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 697	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:10:00 - [43] - Quote Jungian wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Jungian wrote: i recently went online to donate some money, but while at it i maxxed out my AR pg skill. Didnt notice anything from 3 to 5. gg ccp, keep those expensive skills in the tree that really doesnt do anything for the character. only a respec will get me back now. Ahaha look at this dude. Read up on what you put your skills into you AR rubadub scrub. -1 for no brain. uhm, come again? im asking for ccp to make level 4 and 5 stand out just as much in DUST as most skills do in EVE. Why even have 5 skill levels of AR pg when the last 2 dont even help much at all. i got 27 million SP and just felt like maxing out the AR tree, but maxing out the pg side of it didnt make any difference to my builds. -3 for ****. last i heard, the entire AR PG skill is broken and all points into reducing AR PG will be wasted. Faction Channels for FW Staging** PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 493	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:13:00 - [44] - Quote No. Vehicle users are the top 1% of the community and are too honorable to do anything else with their refunded SP but stick it back into vehicles. SAVE DUST 514; REMOVE SCRAMBLER PISTOLS AND MISSILE TANKS
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 33	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:34:00 - [45] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: No. Vehicle users are the top 1% of the community and are too honorable to do anything else with their refunded SP but stick it back into vehicles. Message from Godin: 1:I doubt that. Most pilots I talk to (disregarding ones who get handed free ISKies from the districts their corp owns) are broke atm for doing their role. 2: (assuming sarcasm) Most pilots I've talked to says that they are doing this anyways. Why do you think we've been trying to make them better in the first place? So we can skill out of them as they get good? 3: Even if some us leave, it's their choice. They got ROFL stomped for months on end, so I think they deserve to go scruba dub dub for a couple months.
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 97	Posted - 2013.11.22 21:39:00 - [46] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nope, infantry skills will not be effected beyond some new gear and that's hardly a groundbreaking change. Umm swarm launchers are undergoing the biggest nerf that has ever happened on DUST ... range reduced from 400m to 175m .. thats below 50% of what it was, damage is being reduced from 330 per missile to 220 per missile (thats a 33% reduction) ... My Theme
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2311	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:59:00 - [47] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nope, infantry skills will not be effected beyond some new gear and that's hardly a groundbreaking change. Umm swarm launchers are undergoing the biggest nerf that has ever happened on DUST ... range reduced from 400m to 175m .. thats below 50% of what it was, damage is being reduced from 330 per missile to 220 per missile (thats a 33% reduction) ... Like I said no groundbreaking changes, just weapon balance. Ala flaylock. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Chewie Parker Black Phoenix Mercenaries 46	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:02:00 - [48] - Quote We where told early on , no more full respecs . some of us took that very serious , we didnt spec in to things randomly and we didnt speck in to FOTM OP weapons . vehicle respecs (which i have no points in ) & peple requesting skill rembursment for points put into AR SCR are diffrent arguments to a full respec , personally i think that all players should get arespec at 10 mill SP so that new players get to experiment before choosing a role in our world . but as for full respecs , having been like an obsesive compulsive , my points (minmatar role player) are almost perfect . i just wish to move my AR Points directly to combat rifle . i think in future , as the full range of weapons/dropsuits become available , we should be refunded our SP , in these given sections when and only when that all four race variants become available . its unfair to ask someone such as myself to spec into AR and CR when i only intended to open up one weapon (not including side arm SMG for my min. assault) and when both weapons are so similar . if i where to have picked up the only minmatar light weapon available to me at the time , i would have been lumbered with a mass driver for the last year . now that wouldn't have made me many friends ;)


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