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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:58:00 -
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Amarr Crucifier (basically an amarr scout in Dust 514 terms)
CPU Management V Electronic Warfare V Weapon Disruption V Long Distance Jamming V Frequency MOdulation V Turret Destabilization V Shield Operation V Shield Management V Power Grid Management V Warp Drive Operation V Navigation V Afterburner V Fuel Conservation V Acceleration Control V Evasive Maneuvering V High Speed Maneuvering Spaceship Command V Gunnery V Energy Grid UPgrades V CPU Management V Advanced Weapon Upgrades V Science I Weapon Upgrades V Capacitor Systems Operation V Capacitor Management V Energy Grid Upgrade V Mechanics V Repair Systems V Hull Upgrades V Armor Layering V EM Armor Compensation V Explosive Armor Compensation V Kinetic Armor Compensation V Thermic Armor Compensation V Radar Sensor Compensation V Long Range Targeting V Target Management V Signature Analysis V Controlled Bursts V Motion Prediction V Rapid Firing V Sharpshooter V Small Beam Laser Specialization V Small Pulse Laser Specialization V Small Energy Turret V Surgical Strike V Trajectory Analysis V Amarr Drone Specialization V Caldari Drone Specialization V Minmatar Drone Specialization V Gallente Drone Specialization V Combat Drone Operation V Drone Durability V Drone Interfacing V Drone Navigation V Drone Sharpshooting V Drones V Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing V Scout Drone Operation V Cynosural Field Theory V
and to train this all faster we assumed you also trained Cybernetics V
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.20 05:33:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:OP
You used a double negative in your post title. 0/10
Bringing up the same crap again. (-)100/10 for originality
Timing after the god weapons AR and swarm getting a range reduction 2/10 (I caved, feeling generous) please say the titel in another way withotu double negative without making the OP post loose sense
Challenge Accepted.
"People who will not benefit from the respecs."
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:38:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:IWS: When do we see a similar revamp of the dropsuit skill tree as the vehicle skill tree? Any discussions ongoing about this?
I got a fugly stick ready, I need to hear the full tree plan first before I start swinging, remember I am a teiricide proponent and don't like the current 'progression' of suits.
if it where up to me i'd give everyone prototype slot layout but use the skills to adjust fitting (we're talking like 10-15% fitting bonuses) to adjust what sort of level of equipment the suit or vehicle could fit. Then as needed spread the love out on the fitting skills like 1-5% on dropsuit command 5-10% on the specific suit.
Suits and vehicles would then have localized bonuses that are not fitting based (unless its a role thing) like sensors, reppers ect ect.
Neo suits and vehicles would then shift to non-bonusable preset fittings or perks (but not both) equal to as if you trained a set of skill sot a certain level.
This would allow base suit classes to gain multiple forms (and models as well) so for example lets say they have two medium suits, one medium suit harkens to the like of a baby assault, while the other harkens to the like of a baby logi. Both use the medium suit bonus but both have different slot approaches and are very flexible on how the bonus local to the suit plays out. Where as the specialist suits are very darn specific. Like you can have two different logis the repair type of logi and the support type logi. Or two types of assaults one more rifle like and maybe the other has two grenade slots or something.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:43:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I got a fugly stick ready, I need to hear the full tree plan first before I start swinging, remember I am a teiricide purponent and don't like the current 'progression' of suits.
if it where up to me i'd give everyone prototype slot layout but use the skills to adjust fitting (we're talking like 10-15% fitting bonuses) to adjust what sort of level of equipment the suit or vehicle could fit. Then as needed spread the love out on the fitting skills like 1-5% on dropsuit command 5-10% on the specific suit.
Suits and vehicles would then have localized bonuses that are not fitting based (unless its a role thing) like sensors, reppers ect ect.
Neo suits and vehicles would then shift to non-bonusable preset fittings or perks (but not both) equal to as if you trained a set of skill sot a certain level.
Has CCP given any stance on tiericide?
Not ready yet, they're busy gap filling but I am trying to get the opinion now because you and I both know if they go too far before they give it thought they're going to make a lot of work for themselves.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:My Amarr Crucifier (basically an amarr scout in Dust 514 terms) requires these following maximum skills to be considered effective by the dust 514 terms of meaningful.
Amarr Frigate V CPU Management V Electronic Warfare V Weapon Disruption V Long Distance Jamming V Frequency MOdulation V Turret Destabilization V Shield Operation V Shield Management V Power Grid Management V Warp Drive Operation V Navigation V Afterburner V Fuel Conservation V Acceleration Control V Evasive Maneuvering V High Speed Maneuvering Spaceship Command V Gunnery V Energy Grid UPgrades V CPU Management V Advanced Weapon Upgrades V Science I Weapon Upgrades V Capacitor Systems Operation V Capacitor Management V Energy Grid Upgrade V Mechanics V Repair Systems V Hull Upgrades V Armor Layering V EM Armor Compensation V Explosive Armor Compensation V Kinetic Armor Compensation V Thermic Armor Compensation V Radar Sensor Compensation V Long Range Targeting V Target Management V Signature Analysis V Controlled Bursts V Motion Prediction V Rapid Firing V Sharpshooter V Small Beam Laser Specialization V Small Pulse Laser Specialization V Small Energy Turret V Surgical Strike V Trajectory Analysis V Amarr Drone Specialization V Caldari Drone Specialization V Minmatar Drone Specialization V Gallente Drone Specialization V Combat Drone Operation V Drone Durability V Drone Interfacing V Drone Navigation V Drone Sharpshooting V Drones V Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing V Scout Drone Operation V Cynosural Field Theory V
and to train this all faster we assumed you also trained Cybernetics V
I have only 150,000,000 SP I earn about 2 million SP a month.
All skills listed are useful elsewhere. You cannot compare Tech II items to dust content, they are two vastly different beasts.
Well.. thats about 8 skills off the list then
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