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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:15:00 -
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Stealth scanners should remove the "you have been scanned" from the scanned players screen they could have cons to balance them but I want a stealthier scanner. Something that gives away the enemy's position but also lets him know I am there is not quite completely what I want to use.
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
227
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:17:00 -
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Then it'd only be fair if failing to scan to opponent didn't result in an error message, letting you know that there is, in fact, an enemy in the area you were scanning.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5266
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:19:00 -
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Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan.
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan.
Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5268
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:28:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time.
Are you joking?
The fact that it tells you someone is there even when they avoided the scan ruins the role of the scout and dampeners.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:32:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time. Are you joking? The fact that it tells you someone is there even when they avoided the scan ruins the role of the scout and dampeners.
this person gets it.
i spend all this damn SP to avoid proto scanners and they can still tell the direction from which i'm coming.
such is the everyday life of a scout, or anyone trying to avoid scanners...
*tries to flank a group of enemies. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:33:00 -
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Nope, not going to happen.
Its the only advantage Passive Scanning has, heck, even Passive Scan doesn't tell you if it missed enemies.
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itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:07:00 -
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Yes! Not only are they annoying but it gives the scanned player a heads up when scanners supposed to give you a advantage.
Just the tip?
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:10:00 -
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After the first time it pops up on my screen I usually just ignore it since I can safely assume it'll be up there all game.
I haven't been wrong anytime I checked.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:15:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:After the first time it pops up on my screen I usually just ignore it since I can safely assume it'll be up there all game.
I haven't been wrong anytime I checked.
i don't see it too often, as proto scanners aren't usually used in pub, but when i do, i switch to a fit i call, "Can't Scan This" which avoids everything except the focused scanner. if i'm still being scanned after that, then a have a quick laugh, then switch back to my original fit.
*tries to flank a group of enemies. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:17:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time. Are you joking? The fact that it tells you someone is there even when they avoided the scan ruins the role of the scout and dampeners.
This +100000
For crying out loud, scout sacrifice so much to avoid a proto scanner, and it STILL tells them that we are in the area, just not where.
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:27:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time.
Your such an idiot
So you don;t want a message for people you've scanned saying you've been scanned so you can attack them stealthily after scanning them yet want to keep the message you get that tells you that their is some margin of error when someone has avoided being scanned when they are using dampening mods to avoid being scanned and play stealthily?
I mean .. come on .. and you wonder why I call you an idiot all the time
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:56:00 -
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Beyond what others suggest about the other message being removed (which should be removed from the device wholesale if you ask me) a 'Stealth Active Scanner' should be far weaker than it's contemporaries. If it's operating at a frequency weak enough to not be detected, it isn't strong enough to ping anyone who takes any precautions.
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
715
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:38:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time. Are you joking? The fact that it tells you someone is there even when they avoided the scan ruins the role of the scout and dampeners.
Ah it does I didn't know that maybe I misread your statement.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1482
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:42:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time. Are you joking? The fact that it tells you someone is there even when they avoided the scan ruins the role of the scout and dampeners. this person gets it. i spend all this damn SP to avoid proto scanners and they can still tell the direction from which i'm coming. such is the everyday life of a scout, or anyone trying to avoid scanners... tell me about it, level 5 profile dampening and level 5 Gallente scout with a basic/enhanced/complex PD mod and they still know I'm there.
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
715
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:42:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time. Your such an idiot So you don;t want a message for people you've scanned saying you've been scanned so you can attack them stealthily after scanning them yet want to keep the message you get that tells you that their is some margin of error when someone has avoided being scanned when they are using dampening mods to avoid being scanned and play stealthily? I mean .. come on .. and you wonder why I call you an idiot all the time
Damn I wouldn't want to meet you in real life you probably have no friends and a hideous personality.
So you don;t want a message for people you've scanned saying you've been scanned so you can attack them stealthily after scanning them. Yes
yet want to keep the message you get that tells you that their is some margin of error when someone has avoided being scanned when they are using dampening mods to avoid being scanned and play stealthily? Never said anything about this
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Chit Hoppened
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:43:00 -
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Just remove all messages from Scanner use.
Give Scouts that have avoided the Scanner a message saying a Scanner was used.
Maybe even have Scouts have a "reverse ping" system built into their suits to highlight the enemy using one.
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Eris Ernaga
State Patriots
715
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:45:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan.
Ah sorry I misread your statement after re reading understand it I am not really discussing that part of the scanner just the "you have been scanned" part. Removing it for specific scanners would allow players to scan without giving enemys in the area a heads up that someone is around.
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:01:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if it doesn't give you a message telling you that there are people you failed to scan. Nah that'd ruin the role of the scanner it could be balanced by higher cool down times or less scanning time. Your such an idiot So you don;t want a message for people you've scanned saying you've been scanned so you can attack them stealthily after scanning them yet want to keep the message you get that tells you that their is some margin of error when someone has avoided being scanned when they are using dampening mods to avoid being scanned and play stealthily? I mean .. come on .. and you wonder why I call you an idiot all the time Damn I wouldn't want to meet you in real life you probably have no friends and a hideous personality. So you don;t want a message for people you've scanned saying you've been scanned so you can attack them stealthily after scanning them. Yesyet want to keep the message you get that tells you that their is some margin of error when someone has avoided being scanned when they are using dampening mods to avoid being scanned and play stealthily? Never said anything about this
I thought you were someone else So I removed the name calling bit
And the 2nd part was in response to your reply to Arkena who asked you that question and you said yes
PS Even in real life i'm not nice to the people I don't like ... I'm nice to the people I do like though
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