DUST Search - So weapons ranges look pretty silly, whats the point of Laser in 1.7?

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.?

DUST = Medium suit + AR

If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong.

Actually my Laser is pretty great in Pubs, but if I have to face a good AR user, both in optimal conditions, he would out damage me, even with 2 dmg mods :(

Anyway to answer the OP, they said there's no kind of buff, at least in 1.7. Don't hold your breath then, I'll claim a respec because it will become seriously useless then.

Well I posted a respec thread and angry AR users trolled my thread telling me to post a buff the laser thread.

Then angry ar users trolled my thread even to the point of one saying that ARs were getting a range nerf so why buff the laser and when I posted the CCP Wolfman thread where it shows ARs getting a range BUFF then zip!! nobody posted anymore.

My respec since the laser is going to be useless is either:

the play another PS3 or PS4 game and Dust 514 gets the bench or the other button that says DELETE Dust 514.

Simple..

4000 peak player numbers will turn to 3999

One less player means nothing, right??

Yeah.

And CCP upsetting folks means we went from 9200 to less than 6000 during a triple SP event then CCP upsetting more folks and we went to less than 5000 folks during the latest triple SP event.

I wonder if we will get to less than 4000 during another triple SP event??

Only the PS4 knows.

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Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2236	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:13:00 - [1] - Quote Im curious to hear it.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 82	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:15:00 - [2] - Quote To more easily give away your position to longer range weapon users?
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 513	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:17:00 - [3] - Quote Well, CCP has confirmed that the LR will be seeing some love. They didn't mention what kind of love, or when they would start loving it. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 136	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:17:00 - [4] - Quote Light show after Ar users win .
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 515	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:19:00 - [5] - Quote They should add a feature to where if four laser rifle users cross streams Gozer arises and kills everything in it's path. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 940	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:20:00 - [6] - Quote To let snipers, AR users see an easy +50? To make laser users uninstall, delete and quit Dust 514??
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4525	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:20:00 - [7] - Quote honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.? DUST = Medium suit + AR If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2215	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:27:00 - [8] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Im curious to hear it. Hopefully the recoil of the RR will mean that its effective dps will decrease over time, whilst the LR's increases. And since long range engagements benefit most from high hp, the LR may still be the dominant max range auto rifle. Either that or the "love" CCP has in store is some weapon variants that can compete with the new ARs. No.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 947	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:32:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Im curious to hear it. Hopefully the recoil of the RR will mean that its effective dps will decrease over time, whilst the LR's increases. And since long range engagements benefit most from high hp, the LR may still be the dominant max range auto rifle. Either that or the "love" CCP has in store is some weapon variants that can compete with the new ARs. Well, if you fire every bullet before overheat in one stream your DPS, averaged out, is about the same as a RR before recoil. Of course, all the damage is lumped into the last bullets, which means no one ever does this. Add that fact that the RR has a nice 78m span and the LR has, what, a 18m span, and LRs aren't looking too hot. I already swapped to TARs, but those are getting nerfed in 1.7, again. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 940	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:32:00 - [10] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.? DUST = Medium suit + AR If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong. Yeah I know but then theres something about using a basic laser on either a starter fit or a cheap isk suit and then patiently stalking and then killing a Duvolle AR user. Kinda like the rush of placeing nova kifes on a heavy with complex damps and then going hunting. Few kills but plenty of fun using gimped weapons. Sadly this game has gone from play every day to play only if nothing else available. Black Friday shopping spree comeing up so dust is getting the bench.

Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2237	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:44:00 - [11] - Quote Hey, so far it sounds like CCP's strategy is to introduce new weapons and push the old ones out of the way to get people to waste SP in them. Then balance things out 2 years later Kinda like how that Duvalle still isnt stupidly OP rite
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1406	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:47:00 - [12] - Quote Cuts through shields much more effectively than the rail rifle. RR is good against armor. Rail Rifle will most likely have some sort of kick, laser does not. Links: List of Important Topics I make logistics videos!
Zero Notion Wraith Company 350	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:47:00 - [13] - Quote :( Why am I playing again?
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2238	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:04:00 - [14] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: To more easily give away your position to longer range weapon users? LIke every other AR TROLLOLOloll... oh. I'm not even kidding Its actually that bad. ****
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 892	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:08:00 - [15] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Im curious to hear it. to get a better damage output over time. lasers are great for stripping the shields off of tanks and dropships. they also do 24% effective damage toward them at their optimal.
Hecarim Van Hohen Project Serenity 252	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:10:00 - [16] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Well, CCP has confirmed that the LR will be seeing some love. They didn't mention what kind of love, or when they would start loving it. Link? D-í¦¦¦¦i-ó¦¦¦+¦¿¦ºv-ë-£i-ë¦ó¦¦d¦ò-Ç¦íe¦¦-ë-í¦ò-ó ¦ò¦+-üw¦¿¦¦e-ü -ë¦òs¦¢¦+t-Å¦+-£a¦¢-án-¥¦¢-ƒ¦¢d-ü-í-ó¦ó-ó ¦¦u-ÿ-ó¦¦¦+n-ÿ-í¦¦-ü-ëi¦ó-ó-Pt-Å-Åe¦º-Å-Çd-Å-ó -ü-ÿ-ü-íw¦¿-¥-£¦í-ëe¦¦-ÿ-ü -í-ü¦óf-ía¦¢¦+-P¦í-ól-ƒ¦ó
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 765	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:19:00 - [17] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Im curious to hear it. point=0
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 127	Posted - 2013.11.19 01:31:00 - [18] - Quote I just want the Rail & Combat Rifles. At least there will be some recoil on them. Full Auto ARs are meh. I don't hate them, I use them on basic suits, but they're boring.
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards 132	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:00:00 - [19] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: To more easily give away your position to longer range weapon users? Sounds like a fun Saturday night. (-í° -£-û -í°) Nerf Me If You Dare.
DildoMcnutz Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 338	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:14:00 - [20] - Quote To be the one guy in a 32 man game to use something that isn't an assault rifle, i have decided that i don't care how sh!t it is i am still going to be rocking that gun melting fools because i love using the gun.

THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 546	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:23:00 - [21] - Quote Point is to use prof5 and 3 complex dmg mods with the amarr assault Ak.0 and instantly melt the entire squad that was stupid enough to have a fire fight at the lasers optimal. The lasers selling point isn't range anymore since that got nerfed. Now its just damage, so you should exploit that and run max damage with it. Instantly melt peepz.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4526	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:25:00 - [22] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.? DUST = Medium suit + AR If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong. Yeah I know but then theres something about using a basic laser on either a starter fit or a cheap isk suit and then patiently stalking and then killing a Duvolle AR user. Kinda like the rush of placeing nova kifes on a heavy with complex damps and then going hunting. Few kills but plenty of fun using gimped weapons. Sadly this game has gone from play every day to play only if nothing else available. Black Friday shopping spree comeing up so dust is getting the bench. Oh I hear ya. I like to challenge myself also. I guess I forget that's part of the fun. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Argent Mordred DUST University Ivy League 20	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:45:00 - [23] - Quote They could just remove the light show and make the lasers non visible light variants, but then the laser riflemen would complain about the lack of pretty lights with their pew pew and I guarantee that every one of the QQ crowd who does not use lasers would go ballistic with the fact that the laser rifle has ridiculous tracking, high damage, and nothing to indicate where the shooter is firing from.* * note that I think the laser rifle is currently balanced, though that might change with 1.7. the laser beam looks nice (if unrealistic) and provides a reasonable downside to a otherwise very strong weapon.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2240	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:47:00 - [24] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Well, CCP has confirmed that the LR will be seeing some love. They didn't mention what kind of love, or when they would start loving it. Oh! Do you mean like when CCP confirmedwe would be seeing some Drop-Ship MCRU points? OH BOY!!! I can't wait to wait for the next 3 years to find out this won't be happening. Dust is so awesome
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1474	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:50:00 - [25] - Quote I dun know, what's the point of AR? The ScR will be better at close and long range...except will have the problem of over heating every other mag...
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 970	Posted - 2013.11.19 02:52:00 - [26] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.? DUST = Medium suit + AR If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong. Actually my Laser is pretty great in Pubs, but if I have to face a good AR user, both in optimal conditions, he would out damage me, even with 2 dmg mods :( Anyway to answer the OP, they said there's no kind of buff, at least in 1.7. Don't hold your breath then, I'll claim a respec because it will become seriously useless then. *"Quella non è latenza... è il livello di magia arcobaleno della squadra!"* Join the Rainbow side of the Force
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 940	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:21:00 - [27] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.? DUST = Medium suit + AR If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong. Actually my Laser is pretty great in Pubs, but if I have to face a good AR user, both in optimal conditions, he would out damage me, even with 2 dmg mods :( Anyway to answer the OP, they said there's no kind of buff, at least in 1.7. Don't hold your breath then, I'll claim a respec because it will become seriously useless then. Well I posted a respec thread and angry AR users trolled my thread telling me to post a buff the laser thread. Then angry ar users trolled my thread even to the point of one saying that ARs were getting a range nerf so why buff the laser and when I posted the CCP Wolfman thread where it shows ARs getting a range BUFF then zip!! nobody posted anymore. My respec since the laser is going to be useless is either: the play another PS3 or PS4 game and Dust 514 gets the bench or the other button that says DELETE Dust 514. Simple.. 4000 peak player numbers will turn to 3999 One less player means nothing, right?? Yeah. And CCP upsetting folks means we went from 9200 to less than 6000 during a triple SP event then CCP upsetting more folks and we went to less than 5000 folks during the latest triple SP event. I wonder if we will get to less than 4000 during another triple SP event?? Only the PS4 knows.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2245	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:24:00 - [28] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: honestly what's the point of any other weapon besides AR / Scr.? DUST = Medium suit + AR If you're doing something else, you're obviously doing it wrong. Actually my Laser is pretty great in Pubs, but if I have to face a good AR user, both in optimal conditions, he would out damage me, even with 2 dmg mods :( Anyway to answer the OP, they said there's no kind of buff, at least in 1.7. Don't hold your breath then, I'll claim a respec because it will become seriously useless then. Well I posted a respec thread and angry AR users trolled my thread telling me to post a buff the laser thread. Then angry ar users trolled my thread even to the point of one saying that ARs were getting a range nerf so why buff the laser and when I posted the CCP Wolfman thread where it shows ARs getting a range BUFF then zip!! nobody posted anymore. My respec since the laser is going to be useless is either: the play another PS3 or PS4 game and Dust 514 gets the bench or the other button that says DELETE Dust 514. Simple.. 4000 peak player numbers will turn to 3999 One less player means nothing, right?? Yeah. And CCP upsetting folks means we went from 9200 to less than 6000 during a triple SP event then CCP upsetting more folks and we went to less than 5000 folks during the latest triple SP event. I wonder if we will get to less than 4000 during another triple SP event?? Only the PS4 knows. Wonder how low that number can go before its unrecoverable
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 941	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:36:00 - [29] - Quote The Dust 514 player counts are going to be lower since ticked off! laser , TAC ar users and some MD users will probably just quit. Toss in some other folks that wasted SP on scouts and dropships. Plus 2014 is rampant with enticeing PS3 and PS4 games. Dust 514 or The Division or Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Uncharted 4, New Metal Gear, Destiny, etc. CCP is going to reap what they sowed.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 976	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:39:00 - [30] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: The Dust 514 player counts are going to be lower since ticked off! laser , TAC ar users and some MD users will probably just quit. Toss in some other folks that wasted SP on scouts and dropships. Plus 2014 is rampant with enticeing PS3 and PS4 games. Dust 514 or The Division or Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Uncharted 4, New Metal Gear, Destiny, etc. CCP is going to reap what they sowed. New Metal Gear Online will definitely biomass my clone :/ *"Quella non è latenza... è il livello di magia arcobaleno della squadra!"* Join the Rainbow side of the Force

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 941	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:48:00 - [31] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: The Dust 514 player counts are going to be lower since ticked off! laser , TAC ar users and some MD users will probably just quit. Toss in some other folks that wasted SP on scouts and dropships. Plus 2014 is rampant with enticeing PS3 and PS4 games. Dust 514 or The Division or Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Uncharted 4, New Metal Gear, Destiny, etc. CCP is going to reap what they sowed. New Metal Gear Online will definitely biomass my clone :/ Agreed. The death of Dust 514 player counts will not be due to a single game but more likely due to unresponsiveness on the part of CCP and a thousand other games that slowly pull away the Dust 514 playerbase. I.e. hey CCP what about new maps, new weapons, new suits, new vehicles, new vehicle turrets? CCP meh!! more important things like makeing female clone chest cones smaller and nefing the sexy female clone walk.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4149	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:54:00 - [32] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: The Dust 514 player counts are going to be lower since ticked off! laser , TAC ar users and some MD users will probably just quit. Toss in some other folks that wasted SP on scouts and dropships. Plus 2014 is rampant with enticeing PS3 and PS4 games. Dust 514 or The Division or Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Uncharted 4, New Metal Gear, Destiny, etc. CCP is going to reap what they sowed. Is Fallout 4 confirmed? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 977	Posted - 2013.11.19 03:56:00 - [33] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: I.e. hey CCP what about new maps, new weapons, new suits, new vehicles, new vehicle turrets? CCP meh!! more important things like makeing female clone chest cones smaller and nefing the sexy female clone walk. Tech Ohm Eaven used Logic CCP is confused It's Super Effective! *"Quella non è latenza... è il livello di magia arcobaleno della squadra!"* Join the Rainbow side of the Force
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 943	Posted - 2013.11.19 07:33:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: The Dust 514 player counts are going to be lower since ticked off! laser , TAC ar users and some MD users will probably just quit. Toss in some other folks that wasted SP on scouts and dropships. Plus 2014 is rampant with enticeing PS3 and PS4 games. Dust 514 or The Division or Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Uncharted 4, New Metal Gear, Destiny, etc. CCP is going to reap what they sowed. Is Fallout 4 confirmed? bethesda trademarked fallout 4 in europe and sorry I was unable to share info a month ago since bethesda gets pissed at folks spilling stuff.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 227	Posted - 2013.11.19 08:46:00 - [35] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Well, CCP has confirmed that the LR will be seeing some love. They didn't mention what kind of love, or when they would start loving it. To expect too much If I remember right they wanted to give scout some love like two builds ago and look what scouts get so far 6m additional range to the rather useless passive scanrange... Once the RR is out the LR will no longer have any justification on the Battlefield other than fun (just like scouts now).
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 652	Posted - 2013.11.19 10:13:00 - [36] - Quote the point of the laser in 1.7 is that you and your squadmates can all form a disco laser squad, play some techno and shoot lasers into the sky while at the same time recording the whole thing. it will make for a pretty light show YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+


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