No point in caring.

They made a decision to go for shiny graphics instead of good gameplay.

Many other developers have made the same choice, and CCP should have looked at them for examples of how well that turned out.

It probably can, just more cheats are needed.

Cheats which are freakishly expensive as hell to develop in house or to borrow elsewhere.

That's what it comes down to these days but good cheats on graphics are never noticed or only noticed if you're really looking for them.

I am thankful for consoles at least because they do restrict the game developers a bit forcing them to consistently lower hardware requirements for computer games.

Or they can just move to PS4... maybe too much logic there for CCP.

Bottom line is terrible engine for dust, running on a ancient console with limited power, and inexperienced devs. Trying to develop the game on a console that's easier to work with, also with allot more power might have been the better thing, but they're "laser focused" on making this game work on PS3 of now.

Wasting time and money imo, but i'm no dev or publisher.

It probably can, just more cheats are needed.

Cheats which are freakishly expensive as hell to develop in house or to borrow elsewhere.

Which is why people are finally realizing that render distance will not improve substantially anytime soon(read as: on this generation of console)

So long range combat is off the board for the foreseeable future.

What broils me up is that it has taken 5 months for there to be any announcement about making changes due to the restrictions CCP imposed on themselves.

They were well aware that swarms were invisible, and that FG users were not rendering. Did they nerf the ranges quickly, to make it so that people could actually engage those targets? No, we still have 400m swarms when they have known for some months that it is completely unbalanced.

On top of that, there have actually been backward steps on render distance, with 1.5 and 1.6 both reducing that draw distance even further. It is not unheard of for enemies to turn from chevrons into enemies under 100m, which is completely insane for a tanker to try and fight with.

To add insult to injury, you used to be able to carry a Sniper rifle in the tank, and manipulate the render distance to be able to get targets to show up briefly. That workaround got removed in 1.6, so now tankers can legitimately be blind.

They could but even then cheats are still needed on those systems. I mean look at xbone running at 30 fps 720p to look nice on call of duty. The cheat they use is similar to the one they used on the original xbox 360, They draw a picture much much larger than the tv screen then downsize it.

For all its worth it doens't seem that 'much' better than the 360 version. Then again xbone just game out developers haven't had time to squeeze out every ounce of power yet.

I mean if you look at the last ps2 games to come out some almost had a ps3 like quality, While early ps2 games reminiscent of ps1 graphics.

I don't understand what you say, how can it be a problem with rendering?
It's intentional, little turret don't have the problem, snipers, and infantry in general have a better rendering than vehicle pilots.
It's clearly an intended cut on rendering distance for vehicle players, it's a nerf, nothing more and nothing less.

CCP probably started nerfing it over concerns that they'd start melting some PS3's and now they're in it for the next 3 years with terrible rendering.

Know how I know? No official word = nothing good to say.
Swarm's range nerfed. Sounds fair enough. Except its the same range, outside of which, they would render invisible+silent. Meanwhile non-rendered rail-tanks will still gib DS from 600 meters away.. .

CCP is actually now balancing game-play mechanics around gimped hardware specs for the long term. Is this good? I can't say I think it is.

There will continue to be no comment on the subject, optimization can only go so far and they've reached the limit already.
What we see in 1.7 will likely be the standard till PS4. I only hope they can re-balance the game properly when things start working on PS4 - if Dust is still around by then.

But we're looking at 3 years till that anyhow so what's the point in caring?

I don't understand what you say, how can it be a problem with rendering?
It's intentional, little turret don't have the problem, snipers, and infantry in general have a better rendering than vehicle pilots.
It's clearly an intended cut on rendering distance for vehicle players, it's a nerf, nothing more and nothing less.

wow, wow , wow
It will take 3 years to move to PS4 REALLY
screw this il be playing Planetside 2 on my PS4
( nah joking planetside two is worst then this, "cough" "cough" Pay to win "cough" "cough" )

No point in caring.

They made a decision to go for shiny graphics instead of good gameplay.

Many other developers have made the same choice, and CCP should have looked at them for examples of how well that turned out.

@IWS

The X1 is proving more difficult to develop for (at the moment) than the 360. The PS4 is easier to develop for than the PS3 and developers say extremely close to the pc with the added benefit of the 8 GB RAM.

This to me was always the argument to make the jump early and save the headaches of trying to get the best out of a platform isnt your norm.

I hope sometime next year they announce that they are migrating in a short timeframe (3-6 months).

It could get better if they'd revert back to Chromosome graphics. No rendering problems back then (aside from head-glitching snipers, but that was at extreme ranges).

Or they can just move to PS4... maybe too much logic there for CCP.

Bottom line is terrible engine for dust, running on a ancient console with limited power, and inexperienced devs. Trying to develop the game on a console that's easier to work with, also with allot more power might have been the better thing, but they're "laser focused" on making this game work on PS3 for now.

Wasting time and money imo, but i'm no dev or publisher.