CCP says:

Waves of oppurtunity.

The current shield hardener has a cd of 30 seconds and NO tank uses these.

I can see the complaints about almost doubling the cd.

The current shield hardener has a cd of 30 seconds and NO tank uses these.

I can see the complaints about almost doubling the cd.

I dont personally run shield tanks, just run them on dropships. But i was just saying what CCP said. Hiw much damage % is reduced?

ps

they have a 30s active duration.

If you can't escape from AV inside 30s, you are bad and should never set foot inside a tank again.

QQ MOAR

Welll...

Try putting two shield resistance, a heavy booster and shield regen. Build your tank around the modules.

Then again, i dont run shiled tanks. Just speculating.

Personally i'll just run dmg mod, passive resist and either booster or extender.
Though i may be thrown to sharks as i'm not a math wizard. (Well i am, but only when i want to be)

Alright i'm tired of all this dam negative attitude. If you know how to fit your tank, dont come and QQ here.

I don't know what you're talking about. You get -40% damage for 30sec with a 45sec cool down. Fit two on and stagger them, or use them both at the same time if you want, I don't care. If you get killed in 15sec, maybe you should consider not tanking.

I think the issue here is they wanted to avoid shield tankers cycling hardeners to give themselves nearly 100% up time on resists. So either the cooldown needed to be long or the duration short. Armor on the other hand is intended to have less repping capacity but more uptime on their damage resistance. In the end I think it all comes down to playstyle on how you want to run your HAV.

Exactly.
Did the OP read the part where CCP said a tank will be powerful with the active modules on, but vulnerable on cooldown?

Hence the waves of oppurtunities.

Like it or not, you will have to hide at some point.

You're also forgetting the massive nerf to the range of swarm launchers, from 400m to 150m. Sincea

Well lets say for those 45 secs, especially since you are a shield tank, we will say 20 secs to the redline, 10 secs to restock and 10 secs to go back to whatever combat theatre you were in.

Doesn't seem to unreasonable, its all about the measured risk, do you leave 30secs into your hardners or little closer and hope not to be ambushed, once forge guns are nerfed so long as you try and barrel through an enemy squad you'll be fine!

Also consider jf you are tanking properly you will be with an Infantry squad who will be able to cover retreat!

....So have you checked the DPS on missile turrets? Offhand I believe it breaks 3000 burst dps, I dont think you'll have an issue getting kills with that.

Also if you want to get close, kill, get out.....why are you not speccing into armor vehicles? That's what they're designed to do.

Thanks for the correction on the Swarm range, I wasn't 100% sure on the exact value. Also, if the reduction is 10% that is inconsistent with infantry damage profiles, and hopefully it will be fixed to reflect that. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/

nfantry will only spawn in their own lines, if you as a tanker have done your job, they should be forced backed to the uplinks where infantry will finish them of.

Yes AV will focus only on vehicles, but if you leave the theatre your engaged in before the hardners power down you will rarely encounter other infantry based AV.

Of course you may encounter tanks set up as artillery but that is a different matter and all part of the fun!

sigh................don't you even realise that gunlogis will have an effective hp of approx 20k for 30 seconds at a time ? yes the cool down is 45 seconds with max skills but if you equip 2 hardeners and a booster then you have a very meaty fit that will only have to back down for 20-30 seconds max at a time. dude learn to fit your tank and run the numbers rather than just looking at stats and crying.

hahahah did you call me an AV douch bag hahahah iv been tanking since ohh say at leats since 2 weeks after chrome was released , so I

im just sick to death with new tankers thinking that they know better than the vets . im also sick of people moaning abpout 1.7 before it even hits . as I said run the numbers and youll find gunlogis will have a very good fitting options and combat effectiveness 1.7 is only the first pass on vehicle changes so settle down.

UmmGǪ listen to what CCP said they're doing with tanks. Vehicle, especially shield vehicles, are not meant to be abl

as I said tankers will have their day in 1.7, but lets all wait and actually see how it pans out.. oh and I wasn't specifically calling you a new tanker its just most of the QQ about havs in 1.7 has came from new tankers who have just looked at the stats and not crunched the numbers.

There won't be any passive resistance at all once 1.7 deploys...they are removing resistance amplifier modules to re-balance them.....

The biggest problem that I have seen with the new update is lack of variety. Everybody using the 1.7 fitting tool has already figured out that 2 hardeners and a booster will give you ~35K eHP, and I doubt very many people will be looking at alternative fits seeing as how good that one is. I mean, my Sica currently has more ability to diversify than this upcoming Gunnlogi will.

It's all very cookie cutter at a first glance, but I suppose we can only wait and see.

The diversity is astounding, right?

what about:

damage mod
damage mod
damage mod


lol. yay chrome tanking. Dust fitting tool s

You kidding me right ???? I use hardeners on ALL my tank fits .

See ya'll on the battle field because I'm opting out and will be a vehicle drivers worst nightmare .