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DoubleTap420
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:47:00 -
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Everyone in the game will always wine and complain about something needing a buff or nerf to favor their play style. No matter how hard you all try to talk about the balance of weapons. It will never happen because of these people.
Crap gamers will always be crap. They cant shoot very good and die alot so need all the help they can get with op weapons and suits. Their will always be a flavor weapon and suit. No matter what you do people will run to the stuff with the most advantage. 70% of ppl in this game and probably more prefer easy mode and dont want a real challenge.
Therefore this game will never be balanced the way it should be unless CCP start listening to the right people.
Long live scouts! We will prevail one day.
Minja time...cant touch this!
I make the Minnie. The Minnie dont make me.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:53:00 -
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CCP should be looking at the data and wonder why everyone uses rifles, not because they're a common weapon, because they can do 400+ damage (starting at mlt) a second.
Wish my nova knives could do that from 60m
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:22:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP should be looking at the data and wonder why everyone uses rifles, not because they're a common weapon, because they can do 400+ damage (starting at mlt) a second.
Wish my nova knives could do that from 60m
I think you've just proven the OP's point 
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:23:00 -
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DoubleTap420 wrote:
Therefore this game will never be balanced the way it should be unless CCP start listening to the right people.
This should be good...
Who are the right people?
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:26:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP should be looking at the data and wonder why everyone uses rifles, not because they're a common weapon, because they can do 400+ damage (starting at mlt) a second.
Wish my nova knives could do that from 60m
Noo....
But fully skilled Nova Knives can insta kill anything :)
AR's are supposed to be the most common, because they are the most versatile.
SCR is becoming as common as the AR now days.
And when the combat and rail rifle drops, you will see a similar thing.
So you will have 4 rifles, spicing up the game.
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
Beta Vet
Level 4 Forum Warrior
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DoubleTap420
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:30:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:DoubleTap420 wrote:
Therefore this game will never be balanced the way it should be unless CCP start listening to the right people.
This should be good... Who are the right people?
I dont really know yet but I do know they have been listening to the wrong people.
Long live scouts! We will prevail one day.
Minja time...cant touch this!
I make the Minnie. The Minnie dont make me.
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DoubleTap420
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
119
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP should be looking at the data and wonder why everyone uses rifles, not because they're a common weapon, because they can do 400+ damage (starting at mlt) a second.
Wish my nova knives could do that from 60m AR's are supposed to be the most common, because they are the most versatile. SCR is becoming as common as the AR now days. And when the combat and rail rifle drops, you will see a similar thing. So you will have 4 rifles, spicing up the game.
Yes but there should be distinct pros and cons between them. One race should not out perform the rest over every aspec. And I hope when the new ones come that doesn't happen. The AR out performs everything right now in every aspect except sniping distance of course which isn't right. I dont believe there are any cons to the AR and there should be.
Long live scouts! We will prevail one day.
Minja time...cant touch this!
I make the Minnie. The Minnie dont make me.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP should be looking at the data and wonder why everyone uses rifles, not because they're a common weapon, because they can do 400+ damage (starting at mlt) a second.
Wish my nova knives could do that from 60m Noo.... But fully skilled Nova Knives can insta kill anything :) AR's are supposed to be the most common, because they are the most versatile. SCR is becoming as common as the AR now days. And when the combat and rail rifle drops, you will see a similar thing. So you will have 4 rifles, spicing up the game.
Actually, they cant. Prof 5 nova knives cant kill fully tanked heavies. Even with sidearm damage mods and minmatar scout suit at level 5
Also like to mention that even heavies can walk backwards faster then a scout can walk forward it seems.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:36:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:DoubleTap420 wrote:
Therefore this game will never be balanced the way it should be unless CCP start listening to the right people.
This should be good... Who are the right people?
Beat me to it.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:43:00 -
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To be honest, CCP shouldn't even be listening to us when it comes to balancing if they are. Bugs, glitches, exploits, and suggestions for new content are okay, but they should be listening to experienced FPS developers when it comes to design. Better yet, most developers (look at you Dice) should look into 3rd party companies to sort through their work and better the Q&A process. Quite a few current and next gen games have been declining in quality recently.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Krippling Inferno
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.17 21:46:00 -
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It doesn't take a genius to balance weapons, most of it should be obvious already, but CCP apparently doesn't get it. They get the idea of some guns right, like HMG's reduced range damage, but they fail to get the actual damage right, or maybe just balance other guns badly so it seems that way. Shotguns are useless compared to AR's, and I know you're going to say "but 2-3 shotting is for n00bz!" but it should be viable alternative for what it's designed for, otherwise it's useless. At least they got Forge and Mass drivers right, and rockets too I suppose. Scramblers are nicely balanced, haven't used lasers much so not sure there.
It's easy dogging on people when you have a kick-ass set up and drop people like flies, but when you throw your hard earned points in to other weapons that have virtually no purpose compared to something else, then it can be extremely frustrating. Sure you can just get the best equipment but that's no excuse for a poorly balanced game. |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.11.17 22:58:00 -
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just had to get on here and say the title to this thread is an oxymoron the words dust and balance cannot be fit together in anyway except..dust has no balance ...or some different wording same meaning statement |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:00:00 -
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Have you seen what dust can accumulate on?
I'd say it's pretty balanced
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