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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.17 05:55:00 -
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THIS is really the one thing preventing DUST from growing.
Either squadless mode, or mode to lock a tech tier.
******* DO IT NOW GAWD DAMMIT
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.17 06:06:00 -
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@Hyperions, one is that Smart Deploy is ********, but other then that, spot on.
Seriously, most console gamers won't turn down a free game if it's halfway decent, but they want to play against those of similar skill level and gear.
DUST fucks that one thing up, reason that this game isn't pretty big now. NPE is the worst I've seen. Hell, I'm not a new player and I still get ground to paste by ROFLstomps.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:26:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Every time I see a stop the stomping thread I think about when I first joined in Chromosome.... And then without mercy continue to stomp the living hell out of those new berries with my proto LR & Scr. Why you not give the new guys a chance you ask? Because I went through the same sh!t.... I TOOOK MY BEATINGS LIKE A GOOD OL' BOY WHY CANT THEY!!!! WELCOME TO NEW EDEN This excuse again?
YOU didn't play against people with 3 times your HP in Chromo.
We fought militia gear with militia gear. You didn't see Duovalle EVERY SINGLE MATCH in Chromo did you?
There was the occasional Killstwitch GEK, but that was all. Nothing like this until very late chrome by which everybody had a fartload of SP.
Now that new players are coming in, us with high tier gear stomp them while be shot back with militia gear.
We got gently slapped. New players now are getting superman punched every time they play.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:39:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:HyperionsThunder wrote:
I agree with both this and your player base comment. There has to be some way to level the playing field though.
Why? Why in the name of anything does the game have to be " fair" for people who want to just run crap gear? A lot of the complaints about proto stompers are based around the fact that for whatever reason, the proto squad can afford to do it, while the other side can, or will not do the same. In the former case, if due to SP, than it is a matchmaking issue, and needs to be remedied. Although how one does that given the limited player count is hard to figure out. In the latter, F them. If you can't afford to run proto, play better, or join a PC landholder and show that you are good enough to earn a roster spot and a paycheck. If you can't sustain running proto because you die to much, and as such it is a massive ISK sink, then get better, get a squad, and stop dieing so much. I wish more people would adopt a good attitude towards facing down good opposition instead of just crying all the time. There's a difference between "Good Opposition" and throwing a Baby to a pack of Wolfbears.
Some people CANT use Mega awesome proto, because, they don't have eighty-six gigajillion ISK, and they don't have a ISK printing machine behind them.
Some people want to fight halfway fair battles.
Why should I HAVE to use Proto in a casual match?
Its there to be casual, to mine some ISK for new players and old alike, however it becomes more of a Annoyance Test for those who don't go there to stomp.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.18 00:19:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:I would agree that pub stomping, or proto stomping, is a huge issue for new players. As someone who has been playing for a while now I find it more of an annoyance than an actual problem. People should most definitely be able to run whatever gear they want, this is a sandbox game after all.
The biggest issue is that there isn't a "safe" place for new players to learn/play the game. The Battle Academy is an absolute joke. Personally I'd like to see matches broken down with "meta-level" options.
Basically it would break down the game into matches where everyone can only run militia, basic and standard gear. Then matches where people could run militia, basic, standard and advanced gear. Then matches where all gear is viable to be used. When queuing for whichever game mode you want to play you would have the option of which meta-level you'd like to play at.
In my opinion this would make for better matches. Granted skilled players would still be able to go into the "basic level" game modes in basic gear and still completely run over new players, but at least the new players would have a chance because the gear would be matched.
Personally I don't like red-lining people, nor do I enjoy being red-lined. It makes for boring matches no matter which side you're on. Indeed.
Just a safe zone to mine some ISKies while enjoying oneself would suffice.
Leave FW alone, and Re-add merc contracts for the PC corps to auction off battles to.
Just make Pubs safe man...
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:09:00 -
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DNAcompound wrote:There's always the option Tiercide
P.S. it'll fix a lot of the problems we're having
This is my preferred fix.
It would make new players half useful in PC too.
Squads still would keel, but at least the new guys can kill them.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:54:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Every time I see a stop the stomping thread I think about when I first joined in Chromosome.... And then without mercy continue to stomp the living hell out of those new berries with my proto LR & Scr. Why you not give the new guys a chance you ask? Because I went through the same sh!t.... I TOOOK MY BEATINGS LIKE A GOOD OL' BOY WHY CANT THEY!!!! WELCOME TO NEW EDEN YES^^^^^^^^ FINALLY SOME ONE SPEAKS THE TRUTH. WE GOT WACKED NOW ITS THERE TURN! Militia/standard versus militia/standard is equal to every match having Duovalle death squads?
Right...
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2013.11.22 03:28:00 -
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Tiericide....
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