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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.17 08:42:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:
WTF is a real scout?
Zekain wrote:
Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining.
Meh, there are so many variants, it's not even funny. You can run assault scout, recon scout, assassin scout, pistol scout, explosive scout, etc. etc. etc.. Everyone finds their own niche eventually, and finds a fit that syncs with their playstyle well.
For example, I run a Knives/SMG build with emphasis on speed, stealth, and EXPLOSIONS. 
The only REAL requirement to be a REAL Scout is that you must play one as a main. While touring the suit can let you have the feel of it, and even form a halfway decent opinion, running one as a main is the ONLY way to understand the full spectrum of the suit.
It's like using a Mass Driver as your ONLY weapon. Over time, you really start to understand where it's strengths and weaknesses are, and exactly how to use it in multiple scenarios.
This is why I love Scouts United so much. You have a TON of players who all run a suit about 80% of the time. Due to the collective experience there, we can hold discussions on weapons, tactics, and suit builds, and bounce ideas off of each other. It's also why we know exactly what problems there are with the suit.
TL;DR
Don't hate on dedicated scouts. We have far more experience than you, and we pretty much already discount your opinion due to fact that our data over time COMPLETELY outstrips yours. ( ALSO, this is my personal opinion. I am not trying to speak out for all scouts, even though it kinda sounds like it.)
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.17 08:54:00 -
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ovary obliterator wrote:i get intel just fine with a scanner on a medium suit... who needs a scout anyway
This is why scouts are mad. Our role is done better by a piece of equipment 
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.17 08:56:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Protocake JR wrote:
WTF is a real scout?
Zekain wrote:
Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining.
Meh, there are so many variants, it's not even funny. You can run assault scout, recon scout, assassin scout, pistol scout, explosive scout, etc. etc. etc.. Everyone finds their own niche eventually, and finds a fit that syncs with their playstyle well. For example, I run a Knives/SMG build with emphasis on speed, stealth, and EXPLOSIONS. The only REAL requirement to be a REAL Scout is that you must play one as a main. While touring the suit can let you have the feel of it, and even form a halfway decent opinion, running one as a main is the ONLY way to understand the full spectrum of the suit. It's like using a Mass Driver as your ONLY weapon. Over time, you really start to understand where it's strengths and weaknesses are, and exactly how to use it in multiple scenarios. This is why I love Scouts United so much. You have a TON of players MAKE APPOINTMENTS FOR HAIRCUTS TL;DR Don't hate on dedicated scouts. We have far more experience than you, and we pretty much already discount your opinion due to fact that our data over time COMPLETELY outstrips yours. ( ALSO, this is my personal opinion. I am not trying to speak out for all scouts, even though it kinda sounds like it.) Just made a slight correction 
Thanks, I almost forgot the first two rules of Scouts United
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:31:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Tell me im doing it wrongEdit I should maybe breakdown my fit for you ADV minmatar scout ADV shotgun 3 enhanced shield extenders 1 basic cardio stim 1 basic repper std locus std needle. LMAO your doing something wrong if you got 3 shields on a adv fit.
And they're all enhanced too! LOL
twice the CPU and PG cost for only 11 more eHP each.
Just turn two of the enhanced into a single complex. It's cheaper, and it's 88 eHP compared to the 66 eHP you get out of two enhanced.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.18 18:36:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Tell me im doing it wrongEdit I should maybe breakdown my fit for you ADV minmatar scout ADV shotgun 3 enhanced shield extenders 1 basic cardio stim 1 basic repper std locus std needle. LMAO your doing something wrong if you got 3 shields on a adv fit. And they're all enhanced too! LOL twice the CPU and PG cost for only 11 more eHP each. Just turn two of the enhanced into a single complex. It's cheaper, and it's 88 eHP compared to the 66 eHP you get out of two enhanced. dont have complex unlocked. non the less, it does the job, could you imagine me with extra shields
Cue nightmares
*Ghost is huddled in a corner, half crying, muttering to himself"
"He just wouldn't die! *SOB* We kept shooting, and shooting and he wouldn't die man. HE WOULDN'T DIE! *Breaks down into gibberish repeatedly muttering "We can't kill him, we can't kill him, we can't kill him..."*
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.18 20:21:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:if your using proto light frame- your doing it wrong
if your using AR- your doing it wrong (in some peoples eyes)
if your only playing 4 games in a scout suit- your doing it wrong
if your coming on the forums telling every scout their doing it wrong- your doing it wrong Avd light frame for that mach, and exile ar. There are no defined scout weapons, so I'll use whatever I want. Limiting myself to 3 types of weapons is stupid.
The thing is, with the way you are playing that suit, you are pretty much just shooting yourself in the foot.
Just take a Minmatar Med frame, slap on a speed mod, and THEN run your fit. It would fit the playstyle a lot better.
Sad fact is, Light suits are nothing but gimped assault suits with better speed, and scouts are just light frames with built in dampeners.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.19 00:57:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Zekain K wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:if your using proto light frame- your doing it wrong
if your using AR- your doing it wrong (in some peoples eyes)
if your only playing 4 games in a scout suit- your doing it wrong
if your coming on the forums telling every scout their doing it wrong- your doing it wrong Avd light frame for that mach, and exile ar. There are no defined scout weapons, so I'll use whatever I want. Limiting myself to 3 types of weapons is stupid. The thing is, with the way you are playing that suit, you are pretty much just shooting yourself in the foot. Just take a Minmatar Med frame, slap on a speed mod, and THEN run your fit. It would fit the playstyle a lot better. Sad fact is, Light suits are nothing but gimped assault suits with better speed, and scouts are just light frames with built in dampeners. yet I seem to get more kills with it per match when compared to the assault suits that I use.
Which begs the following question:
How is your assault suit built?
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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