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NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 531	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:45:00 - [1] - Quote This is a question for all of you who keep crying and complaining about AR being OP, Have you ever tried an Assault Scrambler Rifle?! I tried it the other night. Dren Sentinel A1 + Aur Assualt Scrambler rifle. Skill the i only had SCR operation Level 1. First round 30-3. lol AR Effective Range (Duvolle) about 40-45 M Level 3 SCR 50-55M AR - Iron Sight SCR - Beautiful Red Dot Sight Duvolle - 60 bullet clip SCR- 72 Bullet clip Duvolle - 37 something damage LVL 3 SCR - 39 something damage And anyone saying SCR has more recoil than Duvolle is either full of **** or doesn't know how to use a controller SO yes AR is OP. Nerf AR Retards
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2839	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:47:00 - [2] - Quote Have you ever seen... A tree?
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2320	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:50:00 - [3] - Quote No, no! Not those shriveled up black things! Been Logistics since before it was cool.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2187	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:52:00 - [4] - Quote Oh my...... In any case because one weapon is slightly more powerfull then another doesn't instantly make one 'fine' just less powerfull. The scrambler has drawbacks the ar lacks as well. Also a friendly tip: may want to recheck some of that info. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 40	Posted - 2013.11.16 05:52:00 - [5] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: This is a question for all of you who keep crying and complaining about AR being OP, Have you ever tried an Assault Scrambler Rifle?! I tried it the other night. Dren Sentinel A1 + Aur Assualt Scrambler rifle. Skill the i only had SCR operation Level 1. First round 30-3. lol AR Effective Range (Duvolle) about 40-45 M Level 3 SCR 50-55M AR - Iron Sight SCR - Beautiful Red Dot Sight Duvolle - 60 bullet clip SCR- 72 Bullet clip Duvolle - 37 something damage LVL 3 SCR - 39 something damage And anyone saying SCR has more recoil than Duvolle is either full of ** or doesn't know how to use a controller SO yes AR is OP. Nerf AR Retards Oh wow, you had 1 good game and with it you KNOW that the aSCR > ARs** HAHA LOL Nothing to see here people, just a poor FOTM bro trying to avoid His EZ mode weapon to be nerfed. Move along...
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz 491	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:00:00 - [6] - Quote Lol at 45 meters being effective range of the AR. That OPTIMAL. The ER is 60+ meters. Just ask the laser and MD users Everything in the game pales in comparison to the versatility and power of the AR, exception being Forge Guns. And it's getting buffed next month, with new variants.
mikegunnz The Solecism of Limitation 649	Posted - 2013.11.16 06:21:00 - [7] - Quote Yeah, ScrR is pretty easy. I'm a pretty decent TacAR user (DMRs and Burst ARs are my fav guns in most FPS) How do you know the ScrR is OP? Because I'll take a std Scr Rifle over the Proto DuvTac AR ANYDAY! Attn CCP! I'm actually not asking for ScrRifles to get nerfed, but I think that the Tac AR needs it's 5dmg pts back. (The ones that you took away a long time ago.) Either that, or give back some of the mag capacity. Bump it back up to 24 rounds.
CharCharOdell 1545	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:15:00 - [8] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: AR is OP. Nerf AR I am a R3tard Well...you heard it here, first, folks. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 456	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:28:00 - [9] - Quote Went 37-1 with gb-9 breach, ccp, buff the duvolle, this is shenanigans. I eat blue waffles when i proto stomp.
ScottyTheMatchMaking AI Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:41:00 - [10] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Went 37-1 with gb-9 breach, ccp, buff the duvolle, this is shenanigans. proof or gtfo

Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1483	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:43:00 - [11] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Dren Sentinel A1 ^That is why you did good. AR + brick tanking is the new FOTM and is OP. ö/\ö :D
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 88	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:53:00 - [12] - Quote Fire rate? Overheat?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1105	Posted - 2013.11.16 07:58:00 - [13] - Quote The stupidity in this post was strong enough to make me post.... Anyway the ascr does 32 dmg per bullet,every shot it fires is like 200 mules kicking & your info is poopy. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2988	Posted - 2013.11.16 08:52:00 - [14] - Quote Lol troll post. If you're looking for the best single shot weapon go SCR.. Of you're looking for the best automatic go AR. I'd take a Duvolle over assault scrambler rifle anyday GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
Zatara Rought Imperfects 1678	Posted - 2013.11.16 09:22:00 - [15] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Lol troll post. If you're looking for the best single shot weapon go SCR.. Of you're looking for the best automatic go AR. I'd take a Duvolle over assault scrambler rifle anyday Nah SCR is better 1v1 in cqc imo if accuracy is the same between opponents. Especially with the sprint overheat cancel. I'd take an Imperial over a Duvolle anyday. That's Master nader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 2989	Posted - 2013.11.16 10:40:00 - [16] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Lol troll post. If you're looking for the best single shot weapon go SCR.. Of you're looking for the best automatic go AR. I'd take a Duvolle over assault scrambler rifle anyday Nah SCR is better 1v1 in cqc imo if accuracy is the same between opponents. Especially with the sprint overheat cancel. I'd take an Imperial over a Duvolle anyday. Yeah but the OP said Duvolle was worse than the assault scrambler which isn't true. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 988	Posted - 2013.11.16 10:54:00 - [17] - Quote They are both terribly powerful, we don't want the AR solely nered, we want all the rifles nerfed! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both
Arirana Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 260	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:45:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Have you ever seen... A tree? ...NO NO not those shriveled black things! I'm talking REAL trees! Brown bark, green leaves, photosynthesis ALL that good stuff. Now what if I, the all powerful Three Dog, bow wow wow, were to tell you that some place right here in the capital wasteland was a place, with LOTS of treees. A variable oasis of green, in that depressing sea of brown. Look, it was years ago, and I MAY have been experimenting with jet at the time, but I'm telling ya. Its out there. AAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA~ WOOOAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 126	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:01:00 - [19] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: This is a question for all of you who keep crying and complaining about AR being OP, Have you ever tried an Assault Scrambler Rifle?! I tried it the other night. Dren Sentinel A1 + Aur Assualt Scrambler rifle. Skill the i only had SCR operation Level 1. First round 30-3. lol AR Effective Range (Duvolle) about 40-45 M Level 3 SCR 50-55M AR - Iron Sight SCR - Beautiful Red Dot Sight Duvolle - 60 bullet clip SCR- 72 Bullet clip Duvolle - 37 something damage LVL 3 SCR - 39 something damage And anyone saying SCR has more recoil than Duvolle is either full of **** or doesn't know how to use a controller SO yes AR is OP. Nerf AR Retards You forgot the most important point : for rifles like these : RoF. And the fact that AR rifle makes Normal damage (5%) on shield AND armor. While scrmabler rifles makes 20% damage less on armor and 20% more on shield. BUT Armor is more important than shield which is highly reduced. So scrambler rifle makes more damage on shield (which is low) and Low damage on armor which is really high. So 3/4 of the Ehp of the suits Receive a 20% resistance on Scrambler rifles. So in fact AR makes a lot more of damage.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3309	Posted - 2013.11.16 12:06:00 - [20] - Quote Whether or not, another weapon is also OP, doesn't change the fact the AR is OP. It also doesn't help matters that the AR is the most popular weapon in the game. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict

Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 736	Posted - 2013.11.16 13:36:00 - [21] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: This is a question for all of you who keep crying and complaining about AR being OP, Have you ever tried an Assault Scrambler Rifle?! I tried it the other night. Dren Sentinel A1 + Aur Assualt Scrambler rifle. Skill the i only had SCR operation Level 1. First round 30-3. lol AR Effective Range (Duvolle) about 40-45 M Level 3 SCR 50-55M AR - Iron Sight SCR - Beautiful Red Dot Sight Duvolle - 60 bullet clip SCR- 72 Bullet clip Duvolle - 37 something damage LVL 3 SCR - 39 something damage And anyone saying SCR has more recoil than Duvolle is either full of **** or doesn't know how to use a controller SO yes AR is OP. Nerf AR Retards the assault scrambler has more kick than the duvoulle...unless that the difference between lvl 4 sharp shooter i hs for my ar and lvl 0 sharp shooter i has for scrambler? when i tried the assault scrambler the other day i put it down to much kick to counter the duvoulle effectively
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1778	Posted - 2013.11.16 13:40:00 - [22] - Quote Arirana wrote: Also, possible new Fallout game/ related project countdown w/ morse code audio (rumored the site was put up by Bethesda Studios to cause hype, counting down to December 11th 3 pm EST, Bethesda usually announces a new game in december) And the Reddit speculation Hey, what happened, I lost half an hour in there...
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 210	Posted - 2013.11.16 13:47:00 - [23] - Quote I'd say the ASCR is about as strong as the AR. However, the regular SCR is OP.
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 47	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:36:00 - [24] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Lol troll post. If you're looking for the best single shot weapon go SCR.. Of you're looking for the best automatic go AR. I'd take a Duvolle over assault scrambler rifle anyday Some sanity around this thread, THANKS ....
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 47	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:38:00 - [25] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I'd say the ASCR is about as strong as the AR. However, the regular SCR is OP. Anyone saying that the SCR is ''OP'' is because they are only taking into consideration alpha damage and NOT all the disadvantages the SCR Rifle has that other weapons dont, and there by i will consider you a n00b. TY
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1546	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:42:00 - [26] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Lol at 45 meters being effective range of the AR. That OPTIMAL. The ER is 60+ meters. Just ask the laser and MD users Everything in the game pales in comparison to the versatility and power of the AR, exception being Forge Guns. And it's getting buffed next month, with new variants. Nope, the ER will be 60ish meters. But right now, it has an ER of 120 meters. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1546	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:45:00 - [27] - Quote ScR has OH. Fire 11ish shots without decent pacing, POOF. U no shoot. AR has... Reload? Fire 60 shots, reloads. Fire sixty shots, reloads. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 538	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:36:00 - [28] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I'd say the ASCR is about as strong as the AR. However, the regular SCR is OP. Anyone saying that the SCR is ''OP'' is because they are only taking into consideration alpha damage and NOT all the disadvantages the SCR Rifle has that other weapons dont, and there by i will consider you a n00b. TY Overheating?! LOL Do you reload your weapon after you have emptied the entire clip or you do it with atleast 10 bullets left. If you empty your entire clip then i'd have to consider you a noob
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 538	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:39:00 - [29] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: NAV HIV wrote: This is a question for all of you who keep crying and complaining about AR being OP, Have you ever tried an Assault Scrambler Rifle?! I tried it the other night. Dren Sentinel A1 + Aur Assualt Scrambler rifle. Skill the i only had SCR operation Level 1. First round 30-3. lol AR Effective Range (Duvolle) about 40-45 M Level 3 SCR 50-55M AR - Iron Sight SCR - Beautiful Red Dot Sight Duvolle - 60 bullet clip SCR- 72 Bullet clip Duvolle - 37 something damage LVL 3 SCR - 39 something damage And anyone saying SCR has more recoil than Duvolle is either full of ** or doesn't know how to use a controller SO yes AR is OP. Nerf AR Retards Oh wow, you had 1 good game and with it you KNOW that the aSCR > ARs** HAHA LOL Nothing to see here people, just a poor FOTM bro trying to avoid His EZ mode weapon to be nerfed. Move along... One good game? LOL i actually made more ISK in the last few days running those free stuff... I get it you are a SCR fanboi but you do have to see the point though other than jumping into the AR nerf hoard
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7727	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:41:00 - [30] - Quote I have two poisons in my hands. Both are extremely lethal, but poison B will kill you 30 seconds faster than poison A. Conclusion? Poison A is not lethal. Words / Vids / OSG

NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 538	Posted - 2013.11.18 18:26:00 - [31] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: NAV HIV wrote: AR is OP. Nerf AR I am a R3tard Well...you heard it here, first, folks. LOL.. Don't have to spend your time on Buff tanks (cause i can't tank), nerf AV (cause i can't tank), Nerf MD (cause my shield tank can't tank) posts?!
DildoMcnutz Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 330	Posted - 2013.11.18 18:44:00 - [32] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: I tried it the other night. Dren Sentinel A1 + Aur Assualt Scrambler rifle. Skill the i only had SCR operation Level 1. Doesn't the Aurum Assault Scrambler require operation lvl 3? In any case it doesnt matter what your operation lvl is with that gun it has no noticeable effect on the assault variant. The assault scrambler is an excellent gun don't get me wrong but the AR is still the superior choice if only for the fact that it shoots faster and has a more lenient damage type whilst both having similar accuracy imo. At the advanced lvl the CDR-9 costs almost twice the pg of a GEK-38 and at proto the Carthums price is nearly double that of the Duvolle. I don't really know why you would run an assault Scr if you had skills in the AR, unless for funsies, its still a totally viable weapon though.
cooldudesuper1 Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 4	Posted - 2013.11.18 18:44:00 - [33] - Quote LOL both are FOTM, i switch out between the two and i murder when i switch from the one i start to suck on, id say 10% less damage for AR, 15% for ASR, and 20-25% for the tac scramblers. every 1520 years, a leap year counts as 2 years-*do your math bro.*
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2131	Posted - 2013.11.18 18:53:00 - [34] - Quote mikegunnz wrote: Yeah, ScrR is pretty easy. I'm a pretty decent TacAR user (DMRs and Burst ARs are my fav guns in most FPS) How do you know the ScrR is OP? Because I'll take a std Scr Rifle over the Proto DuvTac AR ANYDAY! Attn CCP! I'm actually not asking for ScrRifles to get nerfed, but I think that the Tac AR needs it's 5dmg pts back. (The ones that you took away a long time ago.) Either that, or give back some of the mag capacity. Bump it back up to 24 rounds. You! I like you! -1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m -Goodbye my love, Tac AR "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1697	Posted - 2013.11.18 18:54:00 - [35] - Quote Aim assist is OP


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