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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:32:00 -
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Read the title. Thats it. I thought amarr logis would become the new Fotm , but after playing 3 games in a row and seeing full squads of Gallente logis i've decided, Gallente Logi + AR + Active scanner seems to be the FOTM.
Nothing bad with this, im not saying its BROKEN (the AR range a little :3) or needs to be fixed, just saying with the armor buffs and great equipment bonus, the gallente logi is the clear choice for anyone with half a brain... |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
353
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:35:00 -
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Yes 3 games is the perfect way to form a conclusion. |
norttheantiv
D3LTA FORC3
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:37:00 -
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Eh yup.
I am loving mine atm. Great change from mini, I can even Take being shot now!
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
385
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:37:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Read the title. Thats it. I thought amarr logis would become the new Fotm , but after playing 3 games in a row and seeing full squads of Gallente logis i've decided, Gallente Logi + AR + Active scanner seems to be the FOTM.
Nothing bad with this, im not saying its BROKEN (the AR range a little :3) or needs to be fixed, just saying with the armor buffs and great equipment bonus, the gallente logi is the clear choice for anyone with half a brain...
The Active scanner is a necessity as you're blind without it. So I'll ignore this. Just assume that anyone can see you at all times and you'll play smarter.
Gallente logi can have the best tank while allowing for the best damage. The setup of slots allows this. You can get a similar setup with the minmatar logistics. You can also do it with the caldari assault/logistics but shields are **** right now and damage mods are overpowered leaving armor tanking the only viable option.
It's not the FOTM, it's an ONLY option.
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norttheantiv
D3LTA FORC3
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:38:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Yes 3 games is the perfect way to form a conclusion.
While his example is not a great one, it's amarr and gal all the way for the next while
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5072
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:40:00 -
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The reason people are flocking to armour tanking suits now is because they don't vaporise instantly - they just die very quickly as opposed to ceasing to exist every time something looks at them funny.
Whilst the Gallogi certainly is a very solid option and arguably the best, I think part of the reason that it's so popular now is that TTK is so low.
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
38
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:43:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Yes 3 games is the perfect way to form a conclusion.
Im sorry , i thought writing about the OBVIOUS increase in gallente suits,specially Logis, in the last months was a waste of your time. But it seems some people just need the obvious to be pointed at them... |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:45:00 -
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Ill stick to my Amarr Assault suit tyvm.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The reason people are flocking to armour tanking suits now is because they don't vaporise instantly - they just die very quickly as opposed to ceasing to exist every time something looks at them funny.
Whilst the Gallogi certainly is a very solid option and arguably the best, I think part of the reason that it's so popular now is that TTK is so low. This. Fix TTK and/or the MD and you will see shield tanks coming back out. No one uses explosives anymore (except nades) because of the low ttk. Scr is new FotM so that makes sense the gal/amarr would be the suit to counter. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1310
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:46:00 -
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:53:00 -
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Gal Logi & ScR is the way to go.
No.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4500
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:04:00 -
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I was using the Gallente medium before it was cool... in fact, i was using it when it was garbage.
( ._.) <('.'<)
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:13:00 -
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Hipster Tallen: "I was a Gallente Logi with and AR and scanner before they were cool"
Now that I got that out of the way, lets just clarify to everyone that those 3 things are not OP, they are popular for many good reasons.
There will always be a suit or weapon that is better than the rest. I chose the Gal Logi for racial pride and my supporty nature (at the time), it wasn't until the armor buff that armor tanking became feasible and made it one of the better suits. The slot count is high and the bonus helps with that. But even with electronic and engineering 5 I have to choose between either great weapons, great equipment, or great defense, more slots doesn't equal better if you don't have enough PG or CPU to maximize everything. The lack of a sidearm is also a disadvantage, not apparent most of the time, but comes back to bite you later when you need one. It's not nearly as versatile as the Min Logi but very does very well in many roles. Logis in general are popular, which as a logi, I'd prefer to see the other suits buffed before CCP brings out the nerf hammer.
I think that some of the reasons the AR's more popular than the SCR is that everyone's tried it and familiar with it, there are a couple BPOs for it, and there are enough variants that speccing into it has more variety. But given the choice between a standard Templar SCR with no bonuses and a standard Exile AR with prof 3 bonus, I'd choose the SCR 90 percent of the time. Once the rail and combat rifles come out it will be a whole new ballgame. The rifle dominating the battlefield shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, and we only have two now, I expect the rail and combat rifle will get a lot of people off of the AR.
As for the scanner, it's a battlefield intelligence gathering tool. For people who don't like being spotted or think it's unfair, use profile dampners, I do on a couple of fittings, and the more people come to rely on scanners the more useful dampners become. You thought you were safe after the scan, but didn't take the time to see the shotty scout right next to you. The scanner can give you a false sense of security, not to mention they leave you vulnerable. I get killed a lot because I can't switch to my weapon in the middle of a scan.
Seeing as how all 3 things are made by the federation I'm more than happy to say they are great without fear of a nerf. Amarr suits are a lot better now, and pairing their bonuses with their weapons they quickly tear through only the heaviest of armor tankers. The Caldari assault and Logi are still the best choice for shield tanking, and with the addition of the rail rifle, longer range battles could tip in their favor. Once the Minmatar get their combat rifle they'll be able to due short work of those who armor tankers who have been doing so well recently, seeing as how the only weapons highly effective against them are explosives (I hate cores) and machine guns.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
883
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:14:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was using the Gallente medium before it was cool... in fact, i was using it when it was garbage. I spent so long writing my post you beat me to that line.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:42:00 -
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@ Tallen Ellecon
1-The AR is NOT OP. ITS Broken. Its range and dispersion rate are the real problem here. 2-Im not saying any of those are OP.Im just saying its FOTM.
I even said im not asking for a fix, just pointing out thats the new FOTM. thats all.... XD |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:42:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Yes 3 games is the perfect way to form a conclusion. Im sorry , i thought writing about the OBVIOUS increase in gallente suits,specially Logis, in the last months was a waste of your time. But it seems some people just need the obvious to be pointed at them...
See how much easier that was? Now you look less foolish. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
450
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:11:00 -
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I FINALLY got back to this game and I FINALLY got started skilling into logistics dropsuits (that Minmatar medium BPO with the two equipment slots is nice, but I decided I needed another equipment slot and the extra CPU/PG) and chose Gallente because it's got an awesome reduction to equipment and NOW it's going to be nerfed to hell.
It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Why Dusters? WHY?
(Fortunately, I also skilled into Minmatar logistics, so this doesn't really affect me.) |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1432
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:29:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was using the Gallente medium before it was cool... in fact, i was using it when it was garbage. Yeah, people jumped the bandwagon from CalLogi. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
178
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:41:00 -
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av used the gal logi since uprising deployment and its amazing. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:41:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:@ Tallen Ellecon
1-The AR is NOT OP. ITS Broken. Its range and dispersion rate are the real problem here. 2-Im not saying any of those are OP.Im just saying its FOTM.
I even said im not asking for a fix, just pointing out thats the new FOTM. thats all.... XD
Oh I started writing right when you posted, if I hadn't spent so long I would have been the first comment. I wanted it to be a "in before nerf this or that" post. I know you intention.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:47:00 -
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I've been using Gallente Logistics on the side since it was put in :( makes me sad that all the cool kids use it these days.
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
362
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:55:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was using the Gallente medium before it was cool... in fact, i was using it when it was garbage.
You and me both.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
997
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:57:00 -
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Well Minmatar logistics is a hybrid tank, so I'll take both good shields and armor over being a giant brick for Mass Drivers to anally violate any day.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
254
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:33:00 -
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why an armor tanked logistics suit needs 3 high slots is beyond me.
the gal logi should be a pure support suit, not an armor and damage mod mule. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1238
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:38:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:why an armor tanked logistics suit needs 3 high slots is beyond me.
Why any shield tanked logistics suits needs 4 low slots is beyond me.
Signed as a Gal-logibro since the suit was released.
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Draco Cerberus
Hell's Gate Inc
502
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:38:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:@ Tallen Ellecon
1-The AR is NOT OP. ITS Broken. Its range and dispersion rate are the real problem here. 2-Im not saying any of those are OP.Im just saying its FOTM.
I even said im not asking for a fix, just pointing out thats the new FOTM. thats all.... XD The AR is not broken, it is short to medium range, scr is longer to medium longer range and laser is med to long ish range. Dispersion is not broken either. Please do check your facts, in this case you are dead wrong.
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Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1238
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:46:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:@ Tallen Ellecon
1-The AR is NOT OP. ITS Broken. Its range and dispersion rate are the real problem here. 2-Im not saying any of those are OP.Im just saying its FOTM.
I even said im not asking for a fix, just pointing out thats the new FOTM. thats all.... XD The AR is not broken, it is short to medium range, scr is longer to medium longer range and laser is med to long ish range. Dispersion is not broken either. Please do check your facts, in this case you are dead wrong.
I normally don't weigh in on what gun is broken and all that but the first 15-20 bullets of an AR has no recoil whatsoever meaning if you feather it, its as accurate as the laser that doesn't seem right to me. If its a close range high fire rate high damage weapon it should have brutal kick in my opinion.
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
40
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:04:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:@ Tallen Ellecon
1-The AR is NOT OP. ITS Broken. Its range and dispersion rate are the real problem here. 2-Im not saying any of those are OP.Im just saying its FOTM.
I even said im not asking for a fix, just pointing out thats the new FOTM. thats all.... XD The AR is not broken, it is short to medium range, scr is longer to medium longer range and laser is med to long ish range. Dispersion is not broken either. Please do check your facts, in this case you are dead wrong.
''The AR is not broken, it is short to medium range''
The AR is killing at ANY range easily. It has not recoil. It has not dispersion like the ASCR does...
So its broken. Stop defending your EZ mode gun.TY |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1248
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:38:00 -
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Anyone who has fought Nyain San in a PC battle would know all about this.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1297
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:59:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Read the title. Thats it. I thought amarr logis would become the new Fotm , but after playing 3 games in a row and seeing full squads of Gallente logis i've decided, Gallente Logi + AR + Active scanner seems to be the FOTM.
Nothing bad with this, im not saying its BROKEN (the AR range a little :3) or needs to be fixed, just saying with the armor buffs and great equipment bonus, the gallente logi is the clear choice for anyone with half a brain...
WAHT WE NEED is to buff all other suits! Starting with scouts & Commandos, going to Heavies, then Assaults.... To be at the same level of the Gal/Cal Logis.... Nyain san? Lol they the only full squads I see with it
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
5079
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Posted - 2013.11.16 07:42:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been using Gallente Logistics on the side since it was put in :( makes me sad that all the cool kids use it these days.
Yep, same. It was the very first suit I went into with Uprising. It was terrible then. Now it's probably going to end up being nerfed. At least I've specced into Amarr assault now.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4442
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Posted - 2013.11.16 07:45:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119812
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
Beta Vet
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 07:47:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Read the title. Thats it. I thought amarr logis would become the new Fotm , but after playing 3 games in a row and seeing full squads of Gallente logis i've decided, Gallente Logi + AR + Active scanner seems to be the FOTM.
Nothing bad with this, im not saying its BROKEN (the AR range a little :3) or needs to be fixed, just saying with the armor buffs and great equipment bonus, the gallente logi is the clear choice for anyone with half a brain... The Active scanner is a necessity as you're blind without it. So I'll ignore this. Just assume that anyone can see you at all times and you'll play smarter. Gallente logi can have the best tank while allowing for the best damage. The setup of slots allows this. You can get a similar setup with the minmatar logistics. You can also do it with the caldari assault/logistics but shields are **** right now and damage mods are overpowered leaving armor tanking the only viable option. It's not the FOTM, it's an ONLY option. Shields aren't ****. If people actually tried to test it, the best Caldari Assault beats the crap out of the best Gallente Assault. Hint: CPU extender.
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Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 07:48:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was using the Gallente medium before it was cool... in fact, i was using it when it was garbage. *High five/paw!*
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Chesyre Armundsen
Thanes Of Dust
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Posted - 2013.11.16 08:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Read the title. Thats it. I thought amarr logis would become the new Fotm , but after playing 3 games in a row and seeing full squads of Gallente logis i've decided, Gallente Logi + AR + Active scanner seems to be the FOTM.
Nothing bad with this, im not saying its BROKEN (the AR range a little :3) or needs to be fixed, just saying with the armor buffs and great equipment bonus, the gallente logi is the clear choice for anyone with half a brain... The Active scanner is a necessity as you're blind without it. So I'll ignore this. Just assume that anyone can see you at all times and you'll play smarter. Gallente logi can have the best tank while allowing for the best damage. The setup of slots allows this. You can get a similar setup with the minmatar logistics. You can also do it with the caldari assault/logistics but shields are **** right now and damage mods are overpowered leaving armor tanking the only viable option. It's not the FOTM, it's an ONLY option. Shields aren't ****. If people actually tried to test it, the best Caldari Assault beats the crap out of the best Gallente Assault. Hint: CPU extender.
Yeah, people don't run the numbers. Frankly I stick by my Min Logi for support and Gall Assault on the frontline. It works for me and that's what matters. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.11.16 08:11:00 -
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Coming in on the other side, I am a CalLogi, I got into it AFTER the nerf. I LOVE my Caldari suit and will NEVER run with Gallente crap. (Once the Rail Rifle is out, I'm gonna stop using my AR's and stuff. So it's not me being a hypocrite, just didn't have any alternate weapons.)
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Lorhak Gannarsein
601
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been using Gallente Logistics on the side since it was put in :( makes me sad that all the cool kids use it these days. Yep, same. It was the very first suit I went into with Uprising. It was terrible then. Now it's probably going to end up being nerfed. At least I've specced into Amarr assault now.
It's funny cos they're buffing ScR (which I've always been using on my GalLogi).
You have now specced into the next FoTM in advance XD
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
80
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:16:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been using Gallente Logistics on the side since it was put in :( makes me sad that all the cool kids use it these days. Yep, same. It was the very first suit I went into with Uprising. It was terrible then. Now it's probably going to end up being nerfed. At least I've specced into Amarr assault now. It's funny cos they're buffing ScR (which I've always been using on my GalLogi). You have now specced into the next FoTM in advance XD
Funny, i think a weapon with MORErange than the SCrambler rifle, less PG cost and lack of Overheat mechanic might be the Next cool FOTM.... ehem..RAill...rifles... |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:18:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:\
WAHT WE NEED is ...
What we'll get is ... more ARs. |
ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
81
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Posted - 2013.11.18 04:22:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:\
WAHT WE NEED is ...
What we'll get is ... more ARs.
SHotty i dont think more ARS is bad actually. Im counting on FOTM hunters to spec into SCramblers, Rails and Combat R in order to out DPS them in CQ with a DUvolle + SMG...XD
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