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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:23:00 -
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Because I think it is. First off I would like to explain a little about the fits I run.
I am an assault AR user (this is not a post about AR's, please lets no sidetrack) I run a free toxin and a free sub-machine-gun (militia grade). On a good day running with my corp I can go an average of 20/4 and this tends to give me 180k ISK per battle. But it costs me 25k per suit.
Quote:Now a little math:
25*4(suits) = 100k 180-100 = 80k PROFIT Which is great for me! Made a good amount! But with the loss of BPO's from the market and the packs, this looks different for a new player. Lets say we add a standard GEK and a sub-machine-gun. That makes the suit cost around 20k more, we at now at 45k total for each suit.
Quote:The math now:
45*4(suits) = 180k 180-180 = 0 PROFIT Not so good for the new player, they just broke even. Now this is all assuming the new player starts off good, with skill! Lets assume that a player go's 20/10
Quote:45*10(suits) = 450k 450-180 = -270k LOSS And lets not forget thet if a player hits numbers like that and get a position thats lower on the table he stands to make less than the 180k i posted above! I would estimate around 70k. You can see that its hard for any player to make money in this game unless they constantly run starter fits. Which pretty much defeats the concept of skilling into better gear, and that's what this games about!
And take note that I haven't even touched on proto gear or TANKS!
So CCP why do you advertise your game as, "DUST 514 is not a pay-to-win game."? When you can clearly see that to get anywhere in this game you need to either own a planet or pay AUR
What are you going to do about it? Its going to affect new player retention, and old players when they run out of ISK.
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Soon.
Oh so very soon. tm? Or can you elaborate? o.0
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:30:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Syeven Reed wrote: But with the loss of BPO's from the market and the packs, this looks different for a new player. Lets say we add a standard GEK and a sub-machine-gun. That makes the suit cost around 20k more, we at now at 45k total for each suit.
GEK is not a BPO AR. An AR and SMG costs 2175 ISK all together. /thread Ahh i see it, i meant to type "advanced", i was assuming most players would like to upgrade :/
thanks for pointing it out
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:33:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Just grind in free starter suits to make money for proper battles.
Dust is "pay to avoid the grind". But is that not a huge integral part of the game? The grind?
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Soon.
Oh so very soon. tm? Or can you elaborate? o.0 please elaborate ... I wished I could but I got enough laser pointers on me already. OK, but if Dust is anything like EvE I have an inkling into what you may mean... But I wont say. This way I can say I was right whatever happens!
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:54:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:write the cost of each suit in the name
IE AAA scout - 120 AAA redline - 135 AA scout - 30 AA sniper - 25 B free scout Exile - 0
then don't exceed a set amount per match for you if you average 180k set your price at 150k. for me I make 180 - 210 (after tax) and I bet I'll make the lower limit so I start running bpos at 160-175
(in case you're wondering the number of 'A's denotes the class of the suit A - std, AA - ADV ect.) Ahh Iv seen this before its a great way to keep track of your earnings, good for anyone trying to save isk! + 1like
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