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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:38:00 -
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Please refer to this thread for more details and discussion on this topic, as that thread inspired this quick test.
I've heard it said that low meta assault rifles such as the militia or the exile are more stable and accurate than high meta rifles, such as the Duvolle. In an attempt to shed a little more light on this issue, I went ahead and ran a real quick test to try and show these two rifles back to back, to let you come to your own conclusions.
From my brief test, I can't seem to see much of a difference at all. Both rifles start to kick at the same time, and from there, the dispersion feels fairly random.
Don't take my word for it though, watch it here and let me know what you think.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Please refer to this thread for more details and discussion on this topic, as that thread inspired this quick test. I've heard it said that low meta assault rifles such as the militia or the exile are more stable and accurate than high meta rifles, such as the Duvolle. In an attempt to shed a little more light on this issue, I went ahead and ran a real quick test to try and show these two rifles back to back, to let you come to your own conclusions. From my brief test, I can't seem to see much of a difference at all. Both rifles start to kick at the same time, and from there, the dispersion feels fairly random. Don't take my word for it though, watch it here and let me know what you think.
The regular and mlt ar has less kick than higher end ar. I don't know about dispersion.
I use the toxin for effectively what is an accuracy bonus due to lower recoil, with my profs it's a duvolle with pin point accuracy.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:48:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Please refer to this thread for more details and discussion on this topic, as that thread inspired this quick test. I've heard it said that low meta assault rifles such as the militia or the exile are more stable and accurate than high meta rifles, such as the Duvolle. In an attempt to shed a little more light on this issue, I went ahead and ran a real quick test to try and show these two rifles back to back, to let you come to your own conclusions. From my brief test, I can't seem to see much of a difference at all. Both rifles start to kick at the same time, and from there, the dispersion feels fairly random. Don't take my word for it though, watch it here and let me know what you think. The regular and mlt ar has less kick than higher end ar. I don't know about dispersion. I use the toxin for effectively what is an accuracy bonus due to lower recoil, with my profs it's a duvolle with pin point accuracy. From that brief test the kick felt exactly the same to me
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Buddha Brown
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:51:00 -
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No doubt the skill makes a difference, but weapon to weapon... not so sure |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Please refer to this thread for more details and discussion on this topic, as that thread inspired this quick test. I've heard it said that low meta assault rifles such as the militia or the exile are more stable and accurate than high meta rifles, such as the Duvolle. In an attempt to shed a little more light on this issue, I went ahead and ran a real quick test to try and show these two rifles back to back, to let you come to your own conclusions. From my brief test, I can't seem to see much of a difference at all. Both rifles start to kick at the same time, and from there, the dispersion feels fairly random. Don't take my word for it though, watch it here and let me know what you think. The regular and mlt ar has less kick than higher end ar. I don't know about dispersion. I use the toxin for effectively what is an accuracy bonus due to lower recoil, with my profs it's a duvolle with pin point accuracy. From that brief test the kick felt exactly the same to me What you should do is shoot them both at a wall but at different places (Same range though) then go look at the bullet marks in the wall to see how much kick/dispersion they have. I only watched about 3 minutes of the video so sorry if you already did that. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:52:00 -
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That is strange, it looks the same, I can assure you its definitely noticeable when shooting at someone otherwise I'd be using my duvolle rather than my toxin.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:52:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:What you should do is shoot them both at a wall but at different places (Same range though) then go look at the bullet marks in the wall to so how much kick/dispersion they have. I only watched about 3 minutes of the video so sorry if you already did that. I would but the bullet holes instantly disappear :/
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:What you should do is shoot them both at a wall but at different places (Same range though) then go look at the bullet marks in the wall to so how much kick/dispersion they have. I only watched about 3 minutes of the video so sorry if you already did that. I would but the bullet holes instantly disappear :/ Well never mind then lol. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:55:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:That is strange, it looks the same, I can assure you its definitely noticeable when shooting at someone otherwise I'd be using my duvolle rather than my toxin. I'm not here to say one way or the other, I simply wanted to have some video to help in this discussion.
If you can think of better tests, let me know and I'll do my best to run them for you all.
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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Please refer to this thread for more details and discussion on this topic, as that thread inspired this quick test. I've heard it said that low meta assault rifles such as the militia or the exile are more stable and accurate than high meta rifles, such as the Duvolle. In an attempt to shed a little more light on this issue, I went ahead and ran a real quick test to try and show these two rifles back to back, to let you come to your own conclusions. From my brief test, I can't seem to see much of a difference at all. Both rifles start to kick at the same time, and from there, the dispersion feels fairly random. Don't take my word for it though, watch it here and let me know what you think.
Test it with hip fire and see the difference
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:00:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:That is strange, it looks the same, I can assure you its definitely noticeable when shooting at someone otherwise I'd be using my duvolle rather than my toxin. I'm not here to say one way or the other, I simply wanted to have some video to help in this discussion. If you can think of better tests, let me know and I'll do my best to run them for you all.
A match with a regular ar, then a match with a duvolle, it has to be something to do with while shooting at people.
No this is good.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:02:00 -
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I have no idea about dispersion and quite frankly don't care, I just want my duvolle have the same recoil as my toxin lol.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:29:00 -
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you should of sold pills filled with sugar and water and called them a "kick reducers" |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:34:00 -
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Good videos get better feedback.
For dispersion find a non-white wall next time.
Love your announcement lady she sounds like she speaking over the intercoms on the map instead into your helmet.
For your next video test 'feather firing' see how doing very short controlled bursts has an effect I know its going to be hard to get about the same amount of ammo dispensed a pull but overall we're looking for reduction of the negative effects of triggering down.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:37:00 -
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Not a person in the know about these things really but I have a question. Does the longer range of the higher tier AR lend to the effect of higher kick and dispersion? Is this being accounted for in the testing? Certainly dispersion is effected by distance, would kick appear to have a larger impact with distance?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Good videos get better feedback.
For dispersion find a non-white wall next time.
Love your announcement lady she sounds like she speaking over the intercoms on the map instead into your helmet.
For your next video test 'feather firing' see how doing very short controlled bursts has an effect I know its going to be hard to get about the same amount of ammo dispensed a pull but overall we're looking for reduction of the negative effects of triggering down.
Also SCR demonstrations if you can ty. I just tossed it together when I saw Cats thread, just to put some video out there for people to look at. I'll try to find something better to test on but I don't really know what would be good, especially since we don't have custom matches.
I'll try to test feather fire, and I have no points in SCR, nor do I intend to :/
I'd rather take all my infantry skills and scrap them, but it is what it is.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:00:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Good videos get better feedback.
For dispersion find a non-white wall next time.
Love your announcement lady she sounds like she speaking over the intercoms on the map instead into your helmet.
For your next video test 'feather firing' see how doing very short controlled bursts has an effect I know its going to be hard to get about the same amount of ammo dispensed a pull but overall we're looking for reduction of the negative effects of triggering down.
Also SCR demonstrations if you can ty. I just tossed it together when I saw Cats thread, just to put some video out there for people to look at. I'll try to find something better to test on but I don't really know what would be good, especially since we don't have custom matches. I'll try to test feather fire, and I have no points in SCR, nor do I intend to :/ I'd rather take all my infantry skills and scrap them, but it is what it is.
Well thank you for the video, ccp loves field testing focused on issues and video evidence of it.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:29:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:you should of sold pills filled with sugar and water and called them a "kick reducers"
Bravo lol
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