DUST Search - Turbo controllers, aim assist and we can't have raw input..

M McManus wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

I'm being serious when I say this.

Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire.

Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to.

Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps.

This is what the k/b and mouse users really mean.

CCP just give us raw input so its proven then it can lay to rest and re nerf it lol. I'll buy a k/b and mouse for that short period of god mode lol.

Tech WE HAD RAW INPUT WITH CHROMOSOME and DS3 were still at the top of the leader boards.. (explain that) The only thing rawinput did better was turn speed halfly because of suit restrictions... Good DS3 users can now turn damn near as fast (because of no suit restrictions) and have amazing fine aiming because of aim assist ...

Learn wtf your arguing before you argue it, I hope they do give us back raw input so you can get worked by a ds3 and cry wolf

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M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 254	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:27:00 - [1] - Quote WTF CCP so you spend your attention on emulating kb/m to the point of handicapping it but yet you allow turbo controllers and incourage an OP aim assist... What happened to CCP HTFU moto or does this only go for Controller users.. Or wait it goes for kb/m in the sense of we royally screwed your input up so HTFU because you're going to need it if you go up against a easy mode controller user.. ?
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1414	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:28:00 - [2] - Quote M McManus wrote: WTF CCP so you spend your attention on emulating kb/m to the point of handicapping it but yet you allow turbo controllers and incourage an OP aim assist... What happened to CCP HTFU moto or does this only go for Controller users.. Or wait it goes for kb/m in the sense of we royally screwed your input up so HTFU because you're going to need it if you go up against a easy mode controller user.. ? What happened to htfu? Its here........htfu Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles. 5504	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:29:00 - [3] - Quote M McManus wrote: WTF CCP so you spend your attention on emulating kb/m to the point of handicapping it but yet you allow turbo controllers and incourage an OP aim assist... What happened to CCP HTFU moto or does this only go for Controller users.. Or wait it goes for kb/m in the sense of we royally screwed your input up so HTFU because you're going to need it if you go up against a easy mode controller user.. ? I don't have a turbo controller though Level 5 forum warrior Minmatar rule My heavy suit is OP
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 882	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 254	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:32:00 - [5] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: M McManus wrote: WTF CCP so you spend your attention on emulating kb/m to the point of handicapping it but yet you allow turbo controllers and incourage an OP aim assist... What happened to CCP HTFU moto or does this only go for Controller users.. Or wait it goes for kb/m in the sense of we royally screwed your input up so HTFU because you're going to need it if you go up against a easy mode controller user.. ? I don't have a turbo controller though $17.95 walmart.com
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 254	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:34:00 - [6] - Quote low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. If you're a controller user with aim assist on, your statement is pretty hypocritical. ..
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1289	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:34:00 - [7] - Quote yea tell this B.S. to the fragFX shark scrubs. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1415	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:35:00 - [8] - Quote I'm being serious when I say this. Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire. Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to. Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 254	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:37:00 - [9] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: yea tell this B.S. to the fragFX shark scrubs. Yep that's another example of why CCP would nerf an input when there are people with third party device who will always cause more problems then raw input..
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles. 5504	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:37:00 - [10] - Quote M McManus wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: M McManus wrote: WTF CCP so you spend your attention on emulating kb/m to the point of handicapping it but yet you allow turbo controllers and incourage an OP aim assist... What happened to CCP HTFU moto or does this only go for Controller users.. Or wait it goes for kb/m in the sense of we royally screwed your input up so HTFU because you're going to need it if you go up against a easy mode controller user.. ? I don't have a turbo controller though $17.95 walmart.com No I want to fight people with skills Level 5 forum warrior Minmatar rule My heavy suit is OP

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1415	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:38:00 - [11] - Quote low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. I'm pretty sure the ones who can't see how raw input is a complete advantage are complete nubs. I can safely say if they put raw input in I'd feel like I'm cheating the ds3 users as they struggle to even turn lol. I'm up for raw input though just to prove it. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Cosgar ParagonX 7796	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:39:00 - [12] - Quote low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. (Not this bull **** argument again...) It's about a person's preferred imput device being worth a damn. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2363	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:39:00 - [13] - Quote Back in Chromosome when KBM was near RAW input the leaderboards were still dominated by DS3 users. I feel like no matter how many times I repeat this you morons don't seem to get it. PM in game if you need to me explain it in detail. -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1415	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:40:00 - [14] - Quote Raw input would ensue a month long massacre before its nerfed, but that month would be priceless lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 142	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:41:00 - [15] - Quote M McManus wrote: low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. If you're a controller user with aim assist on, your statement is pretty hypocritical. .. I think this is generally true. Kb/M players naturally think they should be better. I've experienced this from several friends who use this across several different games. Anyway, it doesn't have to be true, it should be just a preference between kbm and controller; aka the two are balanced. Message to the OP: not everyone who uses a controller has aim assist on and a turbo controller. I am the perfect example of a person like this. I agree though, both issues should be dealt with as they are both cheating in my mind and combined.... Dear sweet baby Jesus. Maybe that's why ttk has become the FOTM
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1415	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:42:00 - [16] - Quote Cosgar wrote: low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. (Not this bull **** argument again...) It's about a person's preferred imput device being worth a damn. Mind blown, please elaborate, I'm muuuuuuuuuch better with k/b and mouse than ds3 and still do better than average. Please enlighten me, I'm serious. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:42:00 - [17] - Quote Spam L1R1 as fast asyou can like an 11 year old. Chromosome was the last build to not have this, coincentally, that was the last build to have peak player base. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 885	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:47:00 - [18] - Quote M McManus wrote: low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. If you're a controller user with aim assist on, your statement is pretty hypocritical. .. aim assist is something that kb/m users talk about because they don't understand it. there isn't a beta character in the game using aim assist, I don't think. it gets you killed too often to be useful. you're reaching.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 885	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:49:00 - [19] - Quote Cosgar wrote: low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. (Not this bull **** argument again...) It's about a person's preferred imput device being worth a damn. no, it's about turning 180 degrees in a quarter of a second.
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:49:00 - [20] - Quote low genius wrote: M McManus wrote: low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. If you're a controller user with aim assist on, your statement is pretty hypocritical. .. aim assist is something that kb/m users talk about because they don't understand it. there isn't a beta character in the game using aim assist, I don't think. it gets you killed too often to be useful. you're reaching. "I think" pretty much relegates that to forum fodder.

Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 357	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:53:00 - [21] - Quote Now we know how proto stomp actually work. *Assassination is my thing.*
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1416	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:57:00 - [22] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: I'm being serious when I say this. Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire. Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to. Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps. This is what the k/b and mouse users really mean. CCP just give us raw input so its proven then it can lay to rest and re nerf it lol. I'll buy a k/b and mouse for that short period of god mode lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 75	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:57:00 - [23] - Quote KB and mouse needs to be addressed, the current input is nasty for many reasons covered in many threads which have all been ignored, think its a safe bet that kb/m is not going to be addressed and that we may have to look further elsewhere to enjoy kb/m fps games this may be a game where we have to use pad and put up with it, or quit :( i still hope that we go back to what the mouse was before and then they balance pads i just want consistent movement that we can get used to, just some acknowledgement that it needs to be worked on would be nice so far the nerf to mouse while allowing turbo controllers to carry on with no Dev response is dishearting and these threads are getting less and less attention, so either those users are quiting, quiting using the mouse, or have lost faith in CCP addressing the issue i know im on the latter I Support SP Rollover
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 75	Posted - 2013.11.15 18:59:00 - [24] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm being serious when I say this. Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire. Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to. Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps. This is what the k/b and mouse users really mean. CCP just give us raw input so its proven then it can lay to rest and re nerf it lol. I'll buy a k/b and mouse for that short period of god mode lol. Did you really just quote yourself to agree with yourself? I Support SP Rollover
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1416	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:04:00 - [25] - Quote IceStormers wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm being serious when I say this. Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire. Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to. Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps. This is what the k/b and mouse users really mean. CCP just give us raw input so its proven then it can lay to rest and re nerf it lol. I'll buy a k/b and mouse for that short period of god mode lol. Did you really just quote yourself to agree with yourself? Yes I did lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 257	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:08:00 - [26] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm being serious when I say this. Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire. Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to. Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps. This is what the k/b and mouse users really mean. CCP just give us raw input so its proven then it can lay to rest and re nerf it lol. I'll buy a k/b and mouse for that short period of god mode lol. Tech WE HAD RAW INPUT WITH CHROMOSOME and DS3 were still at the top of the leader boards.. (explain that) The only thing rawinput did better was turn speed halfly because of suit restrictions... Good DS3 users can now turn damn near as fast (because of no suit restrictions) and have amazing fine aiming because of aim assist ... Learn wtf your arguing before you argue it, I hope they do give us back raw input so you can get worked by a ds3 and cry wolf
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1416	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:10:00 - [27] - Quote As an experienced k/b and mouse vet it truly disgusts me how casually you try to justify your evil agenda lol, I see you. I might join, any tips on how to seem sincere about buffing to raw input? Lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1416	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:12:00 - [28] - Quote M McManus wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm being serious when I say this. Please give us raw input CCP so I can lord it above most of the player base by the mere flick of my wrist. Seriously it would be ridiculously easy and the aa on controllers wouldn't mean sht when I can head shot people before they can even aim at me and fire. Please give us raw input, its totally not fair that us k/b and mouse vets can't just lord it because its what we are used to. Until then I'll keep using the ds3 as I refuse to use that emulator rubbish, my corp mate assures me its not that bad but I want raw input because then and only then, when I am at a blatant advantage will I use the k/b and mouse input I'm used to from pc fps. This is what the k/b and mouse users really mean. CCP just give us raw input so its proven then it can lay to rest and re nerf it lol. I'll buy a k/b and mouse for that short period of god mode lol. Tech WE HAD RAW INPUT WITH CHROMOSOME and DS3 were still at the top of the leader boards.. (explain that) The only thing rawinput did better was turn speed halfly because of suit restrictions... Good DS3 users can now turn damn near as fast (because of no suit restrictions) and have amazing fine aiming because of aim assist ... Learn wtf your arguing before you argue it, I hope they do give us back raw input so you can get worked by a ds3 and cry wolf I know we did, the decent k/b and mouse players breasted and the sht ones got owned, what's your point? Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 53	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:13:00 - [29] - Quote low genius wrote: generally speaking kb/m users just want an unfair advantage so they can feel 'leet'. i'm certain that when you had the advantage you took it. now you'll have to wait til the next round of balance. tough. No, I just want a controller that is designed for adult sized hands, not for some little kid. I also want input that doesn't quit the second I start trying to do more than 3 things at once. Seriously try to push three buttons on your controller to do more than three things at the same time. Can't do it can you? But with KBM you can. Seems to me like controllers were designed for kids and not adults.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 690	Posted - 2013.11.15 19:21:00 - [30] - Quote Where is Rei Sheperd? He uses KB/M and regularly pulls in 20-40 kill games. I would rather hear from a good user than an unknown user tbh. Honestly, if he says there is a problem, I would consider it a problem. Purification. It's what I do.



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