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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:11:00 -
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Gallente Plasma Rifle, shortest range AR, supposed to be CQC king out of the AR's.
And yet, I feel like it's too general.
I think once the new AR's drop, it will have no true speciality since they all seem to kind of outdo it.
My idea will hopefully bring it closer to a CQC wreck machine, while reducing it's effectiveness over range.
Here is my version of how the AR should perform.
Same range as with 1.7.
High kick after the first shot. (Instead of 20)
Dispersion between current AR and Breach AR
Duvolle DPS at 520 (Currently at 480) <--- Emphasis on ROF rather than damage
Why:
Range the same as in 1.7 allows this weapon to be somewhat effective at longer ranges, just like the Rail Rifle will be somewhat effective at close range.
High kick after the first shot is there to force you into short bursts over ranges longer than 30m-40m
Dispersion between the current AR and Breach AR to solidify it further as CQC king. (Out of the AR's)
DPS increase is slight, to compensate for the massive reduction in effectiveness over range.
In addition, I said emphasis on ROF because that means that those 3 shots inside a burst are less damaging, further hamppering it's effectiveness at range.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:56:00 -
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Posted - 2013.11.17 21:08:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Just do what CCP did with the MD after explosive hit detection was fixed- scale the AR down a tier.
This isn't to balance the AR against the rest of the weapons.
This is to balance the AR against the other rifles.
Looking at the stats, and the SCR we have right now, it's actually the weakest of the group, and needs a serious rework.
What you just suggested would only make the situation worse.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:28:00 -
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Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.18 09:02:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Gallente Plasma Rifle, shortest range AR, supposed to be CQC king out of the AR's.
And yet, I feel like it's too general.
I think once the new AR's drop, it will have no true speciality since they all seem to kind of outdo it.
My idea will hopefully bring it closer to a CQC wreck machine, while reducing it's effectiveness over range.
Here is my version of how the AR should perform.
Same range as with 1.7.
High kick after the first shot. (Instead of 20)
Dispersion between current AR and Breach AR
Duvolle DPS at 520 (Currently at 480) <--- Emphasis on ROF rather than damage
Why:
Range the same as in 1.7 allows this weapon to be somewhat effective at longer ranges, just like the Rail Rifle will be somewhat effective at close range.
High kick after the first shot is there to force you into short bursts over ranges longer than 30m-40m
Dispersion between the current AR and Breach AR to solidify it further as CQC king. (Out of the AR's)
DPS increase is slight, to compensate for the massive reduction in effectiveness over range.
In addition, I said emphasis on ROF because that means that those 3 shots inside a burst are less damaging, further hamppering it's effectiveness at range. I agree on most points maybe the range should be lowered a bit (well or not raised to 1.7 values) other than that I could agree.
If Rail Rifle gets to be effective in CQC then AR gets to be effective at long range.
Besides, 70m might seem like a lot, but try to take a weapon, look at something and see at the lower left corner what's the range.
It's usually a lot higher than what you would expect.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.18 09:20:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
If Rail Rifle gets to be effective in CQC then AR gets to be effective at long range.
Besides, 70m might seem like a lot, but try to take a weapon, look at something and see at the lower left corner what's the range.
It's usually a lot higher than what you would expect.
To some extend you are right but would prefere a niche for every AR the Gallente Should be quite powerfull in CQC and IMHO the range buff it will get in 1.7 is not really needed. Apart from that I highly doubt that the RR will be quite effective in CQC I am more worried about the CR and the AsCR/SCR I think the DPS on those weapons should be toned down a bit...
It will be effective.
480 DPS (same as AR).
And the only downside is the 0.2 charge up time, which is nothing.
As you can see, it won't be quite as effective, but it will be effective.
And again, do what I told you to do, 70m is not what you would expect.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:18:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
If Rail Rifle gets to be effective in CQC then AR gets to be effective at long range.
Besides, 70m might seem like a lot, but try to take a weapon, look at something and see at the lower left corner what's the range.
It's usually a lot higher than what you would expect.
To some extend you are right but would prefere a niche for every AR the Gallente Should be quite powerfull in CQC and IMHO the range buff it will get in 1.7 is not really needed. Apart from that I highly doubt that the RR will be quite effective in CQC I am more worried about the CR and the AsCR/SCR I think the DPS on those weapons should be toned down a bit... It will be effective. 480 DPS (same as AR). And the only downside is the 0.2 charge up time, which is nothing. As you can see, it won't be quite as effective, but it will be effective. And again, do what I told you to do, 70m is not what you would expect. Oh I check my distances all the time as I am a dedicated LR user so doing this is my bread and butter. Regarding the Charge Up Time 0,2 seconds does not look like much but this will drop the DPS to somewhat around 380 for the first second and you can't burst fire to increase accuracy. Well I do not like CCPs way of balancing high DPS numbers by some stupid gamemechanics as this is always vulnerable to glitches and bugs but I guess it could in theory work...
Well, the AR I invision has even lower DPS at range, because slow and steady brusts.
And about your LR, it really needs a buff 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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