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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 08:46:00 -
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This is inherently the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. I will be on the lookout for members of my alliance exhibiting this dumb, and will deal with them appropriately.
Proto has nothing to do with it. It had little do with it before, it has even less to do with it now. TTK is so fast, that what suit you're wearing is irrelevant. If you have to blame your suit on your death, it's just your refusal to admit you're a bad player. The game balance comes down to organization.
Yes, matches are heavily imbalanced. No, it has nothing to do with proto suits. Most "protostompers" are actually running full organized squads. And they have Planetary Conquest experience. Experience they're more than happy to use on the unwashed masses in pub matches. The fact that they have proto (largely just because they can afford it, from PC income), has little to do with their success.
If you want a way to sort players, it needs to be granting solo players a playground where squads aren't allowed. So that individuals can play on even turf. New players can start there to learn the feel of the mechanics and the gameplay, explore the maps, etc. Then they can hit up the squad finder to take it to the next step, having already learned the basics.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:05:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:I'm sorry, but protostomping IS a problem. I run with organized squads. We are STD and ADV. We never give up, we fight the good fight. But we see, on the other side, Outer.Heaven, Molon Labe, etc., etc., and we KNOW they are gonna run proto. Use STD/ADV or stay in PC. Keep proto out of public matches. It's not fair to the people fresh out of Academy.
EDIT: CCP has said that PvP is inherently unbalanced. What they meant was that there is always a better player out there. But using proto gear against militia... there is a problem there.
EDIT 2: That being said, I am not participating in this. If I need Isk, I have free suits.
Trust me, 0uter.Heaven and Molon Labe are not kicking your rear because they have proto suits. They're kicking your rear because they're better than you.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:08:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:I'm sorry, but protostomping IS a problem. I run with organized squads. We are STD and ADV. We never give up, we fight the good fight. But we see, on the other side, Outer.Heaven, Molon Labe, etc., etc., and we KNOW they are gonna run proto. Use STD/ADV or stay in PC. Keep proto out of public matches. It's not fair to the people fresh out of Academy.
EDIT: CCP has said that PvP is inherently unbalanced. What they meant was that there is always a better player out there. But using proto gear against militia... there is a problem there.
EDIT 2: That being said, I am not participating in this. If I need Isk, I have free suits. Trust me, 0uter.Heaven and Molon Labe are not kicking your rear because they have proto suits. They're kicking your rear because they're better than you. That's funny, when I actually see them using anything other than proto (which is not often, mind you) I kill them. Try again.
Challenge them to a match on even gear. If you can put together a team that can beat 0.H with both sides being in standard gear, then you might have an argument. I'm sure they've got 16 players that are more than happy to defend their reputation and humiliate you at the same time.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:26:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:If what suit you wear is so irrelevant then why is it used then ?
Cuz they have too much money anyways from PC winnings.
Karl Marx II wrote:Matchmaking is broken, it needs fixing CCP are still ignoring the problem and it hurts not only new players but intermediate players too.
I agree. Matchmaking is broken. Organized squads should not be pit against solo players with no organization.
Karl Marx II wrote:There is a reason why the player base has been declining over the past 6 months and that is because protostomping has got out of hand and every new and intermediate player has had their spirits crushed into oblivion and they simply up and leave the game.
This is nothing to do with solo players being up against players in squads and a solo player only mode will still get exploited by people running full proto and stomping new players in that gamemode too.
Incorrect. Correlation does not equal causation, it has nothing to do with the suit.
If you can't kill an unorganized proto suit, you're bad.
Karl Marx II wrote:The only solution to this issue is to not only increase the requirements til players leave the academy but to introduce either meta level gaming (like high sec and low sec) and sp based matchmaking .. the current mechanics of this game throw new players to the wolves to act as food to pad the stats of the protostompers.
Meta level gaming is entirely impossible with the game design. In addition to being a terrible idea that deserves to be banished to the deepest circle of Tartarus.
Karl Marx II wrote:BETA was alot more fun than the current build because protostomping wasn't as rife and proto gear was never intended to be used in every single gamemode ... PC is broken and allowed the current protostompers to monopolise ISK to fund players running full proto in pubgames, what we have currently is an amalgamation of all the issues this game has had over the past 6 months and it is game breaking !
You are free to not take part in the protest that is your choice
Beta was a lot of fun because TTK was longer. It really has nothing to do with ISK or suit level.
I'll be actively hunting down the sort of lowlifes who participate in your event. From now and going forwards. And when I do, I'll don a proto suit just to spite you.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:27:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:I'll build my army and get back to you. I'd say wish me luck, but I have a feeling you'd refuse. Happy hunting.
I wish you the best of luck raising your army. Reign much fire and destruction upon your foes.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:31:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:BETA was alot more fun than the current build because protostomping wasn't as rife and proto gear was never intended to be used in every single gamemode
Actually, the other thing I wanted to point out, before I go to bed, Karl: BETA was more fun. You know what else was different about beta? Proto suits were a lot more powerful. Due to current TTK, proto's pretty useless. But back then, a proto suit meant life and death.
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