Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.16 08:59:00 -
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What you are really upset about is organized squads, the reason that you mention proto is because that sounds better than saying teamwork is op.
1.4/1.6 literally made the difference between militia and proto thy smallest it has ever been, its why exiles are so popular combined with their lack of kick.
My main fit I run 95% of the time,
dragonfly scout (only suit I use)
2 x TT3 (advance pistols)
One bpo dapener
One advance dampener
One bpo militia grenades
Yet I can drop proto suits in a second, what is difficult is when an organized squad comes to gun you down.
So in essence, solo work is hard (I run solo), teamwork removes your own weaknesses by others compensating for you.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.16 10:20:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:
TTK was longer because hit detection was broken and weapons had damage buffs to compensate for this and now that hit detection is working the extra damage buffs has reduced TTK exponentially.
Why do scouts die so easily compared to Heavies ? eHp ... the difference between a militia suit and a proto suit with proto mods is minimum 500 hp and a huge difference in damage, yes TTK is lower but taking down a proto in 8 seconds compared to killing a militia suit in 1 second is a huge difference, I honestly have no idea what game you're playing but it certainly isn't DUST
First off, a pure tanked heavy goes down in less than 3 seconds... not 8 seconds, leaving medium frames around 1-1.5, and scouts below 1. While it took a lot of figuring out, but this patch has been good to scouts on account that ehp almost means nothing, so getting that first shot off is more valuable than having higher tier gear (of the same weapon), its how I have been making bank. As of 1.6 getting your shot off first trumps an a higher tiered proto because reaction windows are small. Once TTK goes back to normal, this will change and perhaps it will need to be addressed, but as of now, people who are doing bad 1) have bad gun game 2) do not have team support
Karl Marx II wrote:
PS My Miltia AR has been the death of many a proto suit, Molon Labe and outer heaven have been redlined by an organised squad of people in STD gear v them in proto ... the fact is not everyone is as skilled and forcing them to get slaughtered every game for months on end is the reason why the player base isn't growing
I've never used proto suits or weapons, ever and I know this here is an exaggeration because stomps are not 100% of the games, I would say the % of the stomps you are describing are like 15-30% of games, how it usually ends up is that things are going even for a while (1/3-1/2 through the game), one side makes a major inroad in an encounter, stat whores on the losing side quit and then the game becomes a wash. I have a feeling you are lumping this in there with your definition of protostomped.
Karl Marx II wrote:
TL;DR You seem to be under the delusion that this is a QQ protest when in actual fact I used to protostomp but saw the problem it was causing to a game I want to succeed and stopped doing it .. not everyone who is against protostomping is a new player .. alot of vets also disagree with it's use in pubgames .. I have over 600m ISK I can afford to run proto every game if I wanted but I don't .. no argument you come up with will ever change the fact that protostomping in pubgames is detrimental to DUST
The last bit is that pubs reward you nicely with isk/sp regardless of performance/kd (which is why you afk), also I'd say my skill has increased by going against better players, while being under equipped.
But if you want a proto less mode, at least combine it with all the other complaints people have
Make pubs
1) Advance and below (or standard and below)
2) No vehicles (vehicles cost lots of money and operate like proto items and aren't fair to new players)
3) No squads, vets are often in squads, new players aren't
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