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Foley Jones
Cassardis
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:49:00 -
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This unknown faction.....
And how they are "a danger to New eden"
Does anybody know what the **** is going on and if this is going to affect us?
Got dat Murderboner raging on
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
297
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:39:00 -
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I can guarantee you one thing it won't affect us. It was a threat to capsuleers.
EVE players-"Ppppph, why do I care about DUST bunnies?"
*loses Titan to orbital artillery *
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU
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Foley Jones
Cassardis
258
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:41:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:I can guarantee you one thing it won't affect us. It was a threat to capsuleers.
****
85% of my friends are cappies
Got dat Murderboner raging on
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Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
134
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:42:00 -
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They never said 'unknown' faction, they said 'hostile' factions, which in this case means the Angel Cartel, Serpentis, Guristas, and other 'pirate' groups. |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
134
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:45:00 -
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Also, technically that broadcast hasn't happened yet. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1917
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:40:00 -
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I think it has? Anyway we should keep an eye on this could be good money involved hacking these bases
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4133
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:12:00 -
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Who cares either way. We do not take our orders from CONCORD.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1917
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:29:00 -
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Yes we do Concorde keeps a very close eye on us? Being landbased units though individuals are not worry. Its just when we band together thet get nevors.
Unlike caps were just one of them could wipe out a city
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Foley Jones
Cassardis
259
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Who cares either way. We do not take our orders from CONCORD.
Well we must give some care towards the capsuleers....besides...its something o talk about
And who knows? Theses factions could go planet side one day and then CONCORD will ask us for help
Got dat Murderboner raging on
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4133
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:41:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Yes we do Concorde keeps a very close eye on us? Being landbased units though individuals are not worry. Its just when we band together thet get nevors.
Unlike caps were just one of them could wipe out a city
No I don't.
My superior officers have made it abundantly clear that while we respect CONCORD's actions and power in the name of galactic peace, as subordinates we do not follow their orders, only the whims of the Empire and Empress.
In this sense I do not take my orders from CONCORD or any other empire.
Only Imperial Decree's and orders from Fleet command will cause me to act or cease my operations.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1917
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:51:00 -
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Well yes, I take orders from noone these days and once my memory is correctly restored I will be running around once again.... But if Concorde order me not to do somthing. I would have to stop or live in null sec with pirates. And I don't really want to do the latter
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2596
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:47:00 -
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The Guristas are already involved seriously in Molden Heath. Just look at the publicly availible contracts.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
355
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:58:00 -
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Unless I misunderstood something, they were talking about some sort of Angel/Serpentis research project, the one the capsuleers were summoned to try (and fail) to stop.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
144
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Posted - 2013.11.16 08:06:00 -
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What a **** show. The eggers are going the throw themselves at these ghost stations, and that is only going to cause more problems as far as the Empires are concerned. I have no idea what they do, but I can assure you that in telling capsuleers that they can't have them they just made those facilities the single most desired real estate in the cosmos. There's nothing eggers want more than what they can't have.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:53:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:What a **** show. The eggers are going the throw themselves at these ghost stations, and that is only going to cause more problems as far as the Empires are concerned. I have no idea what they do, but I can assure you that in telling capsuleers that they can't have them they just made those facilities the single most desired real estate in the cosmos. There's nothing eggers want more than what they can't have.
Isn't that just about the way of most people.... I suppose though people like you or I could be more practical, get what we can lay our hands on.... get that next fix. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
87
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Posted - 2013.11.16 12:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Yes we do Concorde keeps a very close eye on us? Being landbased units though individuals are not worry. Its just when we band together thet get nevors.
Unlike caps were just one of them could wipe out a city No I don't. My superior officers have made it abundantly clear that while we respect CONCORD's actions and power in the name of galactic peace, as subordinates we do not follow their orders, only the whims of the Empire and Empress. In this sense I do not take my orders from CONCORD or any other empire. Only Imperial Decree's and orders from Fleet command will cause me to act or cease my operations. I disagree with Kador here. You take orders from CONCORD, whether directly or indirectly, or risk... something. Death is irrelevant to us, so.... Nevermind.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
356
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:57:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:I disagree with Kador here. You take orders from CONCORD, whether directly or indirectly, or risk... something. Death is irrelevant to us, so.... Nevermind. It's dangerous to assume that they don't have any method of killing us. |
Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
144
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:34:00 -
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Leithe Askarii wrote:Galm Fae wrote:What a **** show. The eggers are going the throw themselves at these ghost stations, and that is only going to cause more problems as far as the Empires are concerned. I have no idea what they do, but I can assure you that in telling capsuleers that they can't have them they just made those facilities the single most desired real estate in the cosmos. There's nothing eggers want more than what they can't have. Isn't that just about the way of most people.... I suppose though people like you or I could be more practical, get what we can lay our hands on.... get that next fix. Yes, but it isn't just a fix for capsuleers. It's almost a religious experience. Things like accountability and reason are cast aside in the pursuit of profits. The problem with capsuleers is that most men can only dream of chasing their fortune with reckless abandon.
Eggers on the other hand, can, have, and will rip through empires and destroy people's livelihoods to get what they want. Admittedly, they are just as good as they think they are.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2599
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:05:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:I disagree with Kador here. You take orders from CONCORD, whether directly or indirectly, or risk... something. Death is irrelevant to us, so.... Nevermind. It's dangerous to assume that they don't have any method of killing us. It's easier than popping a wheelie on an LAV. DNA poisoning of the neural passages.
It just needs to be weaponized. And... No more immortals.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:25:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Leithe Askarii wrote:Galm Fae wrote:What a **** show. The eggers are going the throw themselves at these ghost stations, and that is only going to cause more problems as far as the Empires are concerned. I have no idea what they do, but I can assure you that in telling capsuleers that they can't have them they just made those facilities the single most desired real estate in the cosmos. There's nothing eggers want more than what they can't have. Isn't that just about the way of most people.... I suppose though people like you or I could be more practical, get what we can lay our hands on.... get that next fix. Yes, but it isn't just a fix for capsuleers. It's almost a religious experience. Things like accountability and reason are cast aside in the pursuit of profits. The problem with capsuleers is that most men can only dream of chasing their fortune with reckless abandon. Eggers on the other hand, can, have, and will rip through empires and destroy people's livelihoods to get what they want. Admittedly, they are just as good as they think they are.
I suppose so.
Though I don't see the point of it. |
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
359
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Posted - 2013.11.17 04:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's easier than popping a wheelie on an LAV. DNA poisoning of the neural passages.
It just needs to be weaponized. And... No more immortals. Since our DNA isn't our own to begin with (we're normally imprinted on stock clones, remember), I have no idea how that would even work. They might have a killswitch set up to deactivate our implants, but that seems a little too easy to trigger accidentally or through third-party interference.
Me, I'd write a computer virus to corrupt our consciousness transfer protocols and infect our systems with it. Scrambled is pretty indistinguishable from dead when it's an infomorph you're talking about. |
DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2610
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Posted - 2013.11.17 05:54:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's easier than popping a wheelie on an LAV. DNA poisoning of the neural passages.
It just needs to be weaponized. And... No more immortals. Since our DNA isn't our own to begin with (we're normally imprinted on stock clones, remember), I have no idea how that would even work. They might have a killswitch set up to deactivate our implants, but that seems a little too easy to trigger accidentally or through third-party interference. Me, I'd write a computer virus to corrupt our consciousness transfer protocols and infect our systems with it. Scrambled is pretty indistinguishable from dead when it's an infomorph you're talking about. It is true that it would not keep our bodies from being cloned. Though, it would effectively end our consciousness or at the very least keep more memories from being formed, by keeping our brains from being scanned.
A virus is possible, though, there must exist several independent databases that would need to be infected individually.
Though we are both missing the Titan in the hangar; destroy the clone supply.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
144
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Posted - 2013.11.17 06:15:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's easier than popping a wheelie on an LAV. DNA poisoning of the neural passages.
It just needs to be weaponized. And... No more immortals. Since our DNA isn't our own to begin with (we're normally imprinted on stock clones, remember), I have no idea how that would even work. They might have a killswitch set up to deactivate our implants, but that seems a little too easy to trigger accidentally or through third-party interference. Me, I'd write a computer virus to corrupt our consciousness transfer protocols and infect our systems with it. Scrambled is pretty indistinguishable from dead when it's an infomorph you're talking about. That hypothesis is... unsettling. Far too close to home. Far too probable. Faulty implants scrambled my mind something horrid once already and I still feel the effects to this day. At any given moment random memory access could put me into a mental meltdown unless I take medication strong enough to keep me too sedated to chase the madness further away from reality.
You don't just get scrambled. Your brain has try to make sense of all sorts of static floating around inside of you, and it will go to great lengths to do it. It's not a pleasant process.
My condition was only a technical mistake. A virus designed with the intent of disrupting our data transfer could do untold damage both to our own psyche (aside from potentially corrupting the data entirely to the point that a transfer is impossible) but also to the world that inherits whatever is left of us after the virus takes its toll.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
304
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Posted - 2013.11.19 00:08:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's easier than popping a wheelie on an LAV. DNA poisoning of the neural passages.
It just needs to be weaponized. And... No more immortals. Since our DNA isn't our own to begin with (we're normally imprinted on stock clones, remember), I have no idea how that would even work. They might have a killswitch set up to deactivate our implants, but that seems a little too easy to trigger accidentally or through third-party interference. Me, I'd write a computer virus to corrupt our consciousness transfer protocols and infect our systems with it. Scrambled is pretty indistinguishable from dead when it's an infomorph you're talking about. That hypothesis is... unsettling. Far too close to home. Far too probable. Faulty implants scrambled my mind something horrid once already and I still feel the effects to this day. At any given moment random memory access could put me into a mental meltdown unless I take medication strong enough to keep me too sedated to chase the madness further away from reality. You don't just get scrambled. Your brain has try to make sense of all sorts of static floating around inside of you, and it will go to great lengths to do it. It's not a pleasant process. My condition was only a technical mistake. A virus designed with the intent of disrupting our data transfer could do untold damage both to our own psyche (aside from potentially corrupting the data entirely to the point that a transfer is impossible) but also to the world that inherits whatever is left of us after the virus takes its toll.
I wonder how sensitive our implants are to cyber attacks?
How do you start a war?
Simple
F* you
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.11.19 00:23:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It's easier than popping a wheelie on an LAV. DNA poisoning of the neural passages.
It just needs to be weaponized. And... No more immortals. Since our DNA isn't our own to begin with (we're normally imprinted on stock clones, remember), I have no idea how that would even work. They might have a killswitch set up to deactivate our implants, but that seems a little too easy to trigger accidentally or through third-party interference. Me, I'd write a computer virus to corrupt our consciousness transfer protocols and infect our systems with it. Scrambled is pretty indistinguishable from dead when it's an infomorph you're talking about. That hypothesis is... unsettling. Far too close to home. Far too probable. Faulty implants scrambled my mind something horrid once already and I still feel the effects to this day. At any given moment random memory access could put me into a mental meltdown unless I take medication strong enough to keep me too sedated to chase the madness further away from reality. You don't just get scrambled. Your brain has try to make sense of all sorts of static floating around inside of you, and it will go to great lengths to do it. It's not a pleasant process. My condition was only a technical mistake. A virus designed with the intent of disrupting our data transfer could do untold damage both to our own psyche (aside from potentially corrupting the data entirely to the point that a transfer is impossible) but also to the world that inherits whatever is left of us after the virus takes its toll. I wonder how sensitive our implants are to cyber attacks?
Not very I would assume or who would willingly volunteer to become immortal this way.... I am sure we are susceptible to such attacks...but not necessarily vulnerable. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1935
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Posted - 2013.11.19 08:43:00 -
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You have more to worry from getting captured and having your memory altered/whiped and or conditioned I can tell u this much it's very unpleasant experice once they try and fix good thing mordu legion has nice hotels
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
90
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:53:00 -
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Who wants to bet it's The Nation? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4189
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:25:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Who wants to bet it's The Nation?
The Nation cannot be responsible for everything....I wouldn't be surprised if the Empires were heavily invested in Anti Immortal research.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
2663
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:Who wants to bet it's The Nation? The Nation cannot be responsible for everything....I wouldn't be surprised if the Empires were heavily invested in Anti Immortal research. To permanently kill us "immortals" (a lame egotistical self description), it would be pretty easy.
Thing is, it requires all the Empires to want to do it, at the same time.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4193
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:57:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:Who wants to bet it's The Nation? The Nation cannot be responsible for everything....I wouldn't be surprised if the Empires were heavily invested in Anti Immortal research. To permanently kill us "immortals" (a lame egotistical self description), it would be pretty easy. Thing is, it requires all the Empires to want to do it, at the same time. Indeed but its entirely likely that we may become too much of a handful for our respective empires to bother with.... I do not mind dying for the empire...
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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