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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:35:00 -
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Also make the gun spin up when the ADS button is pressed.
This way the HMG should be able to do proper spread dmg at close range and still be able to tighten its cone for further range engagements.
Or introduce a none tightening HMG.
Personally I think option is better and may help with the HMGs current situation.
Heavies, what do ya think? |
Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals
EoN.
2302
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
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Just make it tighten to a ridiculous degree when crouching, and give it a more impressive optimal.
That gives you CQC spread, and a crouching "siege mode" for longer range combat. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:43:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Just make it tighten to a ridiculous degree when crouching, and give it a more impressive optimal.
That gives you CQC spread, and a crouching "siege mode" for longer range combat.
It still isn't gonna beat laser rifles or rail rifles from there, but at least it could contribute something to a firefight...
Do you mean for to tighten more so then it does now?
I'm not opposed to the idea, but I don't think it would help since it has pin point accuracy now once it hits the tightest point of the cone. |
Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals
EoN.
2304
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:45:00 -
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Actually where it tightens to now is probably fine, but it does need more optimal to give it worth.
Currently only the Freedom Assault HMG gives any kind of decent result, and it needs to beyond that. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1413
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Actually where it tightens to now is probably fine, just only apply it while crouching. And it does need more optimal to give it worth.
Currently only the Freedom Assault HMG gives any kind of decent result, and it needs to beyond that.
Ah, I see.
Actually that sounds like a good idea, but I'm not sure how heavies would like it... |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:11:00 -
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The original idea is to have a larger cone as you start up the HMG and the longer you fire the more condensed and tighter the spread allowing for further distance shooting.
As seen by the video what we already have is the tight spread firing at optimal range what we need is the cone effect |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1413
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:40:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:The original idea is to have a larger cone as you start up the HMG and the longer you fire the more condensed and tighter the spread allowing for further distance shooting.
As seen by the video what we already have is the tight spread firing at optimal range what we need is the cone effect
Yes I agree, I was just thinking this is one way to fix it. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:00:00 -
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Bump |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:10:00 -
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I kind of like the current HMGs. I ran into a group of six and killed four of them with the HM-86. My ally had created a distraction by roadkilling someone on the stairs (I lol'd so hard), which gave me the chance to push right up the middle. I thought it was glorious.
I wouldn't mind them spreading a bit more uncrouched though.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:17:00 -
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I'm pretty sure you guys are all aware that there's no such thing as spread damage on the HMG now, right? That the reticule tightening is purely graphical fluff and has no effect on the HMG whatsoever?
If CCP just changed it so that the HMG did damage in the entire area of the reticule, that alone would be a massive change. I don't think it's wise to tweak more than that to begin with.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:30:00 -
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I'd just leave it as it is, it has spread while moving but very little to no spread while standing still. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:50:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:I'd just leave it as it is, it has spread while moving but very little to no spread while standing still.
It has no spread whatsover. None at all.
(Credit to Master Jiraiyah and Ghaz for making this known.)
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:08:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I'd just leave it as it is, it has spread while moving but very little to no spread while standing still. It has no spread whatsover. None at all.(Credit to Master Jiraiyah and Ghaz for making this known.)
It has spread while moving. That video is just him shooting while standing still. Increasing the spread would just make it worse. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:25:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:It has spread while moving.
Prove it.
All evidence points to HMG doing damage only if the single pixel in the middle of the reticule is on target. For your statement to have any credibility, you need proof.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
504
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:30:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I'd just leave it as it is, it has spread while moving but very little to no spread while standing still. It has no spread whatsover. None at all.(Credit to Master Jiraiyah and Ghaz for making this known.) It has spread while moving. That video is just him shooting while standing still. Increasing the spread would just make it worse.
seriously bro stop with the lies. You have no idea what you're talking about so why do you even open that vacant cavity in your skull?
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General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:31:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Also make the gun spin up when the ADS button is pressed.
This way the HMG should be able to do proper spread dmg at close range and still be able to tighten its cone for further range engagements.
Or introduce a none tightening HMG.
Personally I think the first option is better and may help with the HMGs current situation.
Heavies, what do ya think?
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:41:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I'd just leave it as it is, it has spread while moving but very little to no spread while standing still. It has no spread whatsover. None at all.(Credit to Master Jiraiyah and Ghaz for making this known.) It has spread while moving. That video is just him shooting while standing still. Increasing the spread would just make it worse. seriously bro stop with the lies. You have no idea what you're talking about so why do you even open that vacant cavity in your skull?
The idiocy here is astounding |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:43:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:It has spread while moving. Prove it. All evidence points to HMG doing damage only if the single pixel in the middle of the reticule is on target. For your statement to have any credibility, you need proof. ED: For the curious, here is the video supporting the current state of HMG aiming. All credit to Ghazabaran for doing the video work. I'd like to add that he is definitely moving in the intro of the video, and it's working just as he describes when he's later standing still.
I've tested the HMG and the spread is much wider while moving. While standing still it definetly has little to no spread though |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
504
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:46:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:It has spread while moving. Prove it. All evidence points to HMG doing damage only if the single pixel in the middle of the reticule is on target. For your statement to have any credibility, you need proof. ED: For the curious, here is the video supporting the current state of HMG aiming. All credit to Ghazabaran for doing the video work. I'd like to add that he is definitely moving in the intro of the video, and it's working just as he describes when he's later standing still. I've tested the HMG and the spread is much wider while moving. While standing still it definetly has little to no spread though
Man it's like all of your intelligence was wasted and now all that's falling out of your mouth is poo.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
605
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:47:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:It has spread while moving. Prove it. All evidence points to HMG doing damage only if the single pixel in the middle of the reticule is on target. For your statement to have any credibility, you need proof. ED: For the curious, here is the video supporting the current state of HMG aiming. All credit to Ghazabaran for doing the video work. I'd like to add that he is definitely moving in the intro of the video, and it's working just as he describes when he's later standing still. I've tested the HMG and the spread is much wider while moving. While standing still it definetly has little to no spread though Man it's like all of your intelligence was wasted and now all that's falling out of your mouth is poo.
Kid, the adults are talking, it's time for you to take a nap. |
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
504
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:05:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:It has spread while moving. Prove it. All evidence points to HMG doing damage only if the single pixel in the middle of the reticule is on target. For your statement to have any credibility, you need proof. ED: For the curious, here is the video supporting the current state of HMG aiming. All credit to Ghazabaran for doing the video work. I'd like to add that he is definitely moving in the intro of the video, and it's working just as he describes when he's later standing still. I've tested the HMG and the spread is much wider while moving. While standing still it definetly has little to no spread though Man it's like all of your intelligence was wasted and now all that's falling out of your mouth is poo. Kid, the adults are talking, it's time for you to take a nap.
Lol take a look around, you're the only child here with you're already disproved theories.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
605
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:22:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:It has spread while moving. Prove it. All evidence points to HMG doing damage only if the single pixel in the middle of the reticule is on target. For your statement to have any credibility, you need proof. ED: For the curious, here is the video supporting the current state of HMG aiming. All credit to Ghazabaran for doing the video work. I'd like to add that he is definitely moving in the intro of the video, and it's working just as he describes when he's later standing still. I've tested the HMG and the spread is much wider while moving. While standing still it definetly has little to no spread though Man it's like all of your intelligence was wasted and now all that's falling out of your mouth is poo. Kid, the adults are talking, it's time for you to take a nap.
Lol take a look around, you're the only child here with you're already disproved theories. [/quote]
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:32:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:
Lol take a look around, you're the only child here with you're already disproved theories.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1414
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:05:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Also make the gun spin up when the ADS button is pressed.
This way the HMG should be able to do proper spread dmg at close range and still be able to tighten its cone for further range engagements.
Or introduce a none tightening HMG.
Personally I think the first option is better and may help with the HMGs current situation.
Heavies, what do ya think?
One of my alts is a heavy, more dispersion would make it better at cqc as you could crowd control two or three people at once, its too accurate for cqc.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:07:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Dexter307 wrote:I'd just leave it as it is, it has spread while moving but very little to no spread while standing still. It has no spread whatsover. None at all.(Credit to Master Jiraiyah and Ghaz for making this known.) It has spread while moving. That video is just him shooting while standing still. Increasing the spread would just make it worse. seriously bro stop with the lies. You have no idea what you're talking about so why do you even open that vacant cavity in your skull?
You'd be shocked at how people deny things or are so dense they can't see what's in front of them. Shocking.
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