DUST Search - Catching up: Proposals surrounding the SP cap.

Absolute Idiom II wrote:

I'd like to link to my suggestion for a large, constantly regenerating pool of SP: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=462915#post462915

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The Alternative

It's simple really.

1) Have an active SP reward pool which is the size of a 4x week's of SP, which with the current limits would be 761,600 SP.
2) Active SP rewards deplete this pool, as they do now.
3) Each tick of 30 minutes 566 SP are added back into the SP reward pool.
4) The pool never goes above the maximum size of 761,600 SP
5) Once empty, no rewards (or a nominal reward) is given).

The Benefits
You get to combine the pros of the weekly AND the daily cap!

Pros:
A) Whether you play weekly or daily, you have the opportunity to achieve the same number of active SP rewards from your plays.
-- You can spread your 10 hours per week over the entire week, playing each day. Or you can have a marathon weekend and do it all in one go!

B) No matter how much you have played, you will always have some more SP that you can earn the next day. A full day's worth of SP in fact.
-- Even if you've earned an entire week's worth of active SP reward in the previous 2 days, you don't have to wait for a weekly reset day before it is worth playing some more

C) No waiting for a reset at down time, just wait 30 minutes!

D) It doesn't matter what the SP pool size is, the SP pool recovery rate is what sets how fast the maximum speed of SP accrual is. The SP pool could be set to a month's worth; the only affect would be how far in front players could be when comparing a full pool to an empty pool.

Active boosters simply increase the rate at which the pool refills (and increases the max pool size).


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Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2297	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:07:00 - [1] - Quote I voted for a rollover system and I regret that decision. What I would like to see however is a Rollover SP or Banked SP system that has a cap on it. I understand not everyone wants to play Dust all the time, people go on vacation, have lives, play other games etc., but I don't see why we should reward players for not playing the game. In eve passive SP is only gained if one is paying their subscription. There is no possible to way for a new player in EVE to go and grind out a 150m+ toon. Why are we trying to make it so in Dust? In EVE there are always bigger fish and I think that's something we've lost sight of in Dust. "Bigger fish" is a misleading term anyways. In regards to "catching up with the pros" I strongly believe this is a myth supported by players who do not want to acknowledge that the reason they get stomped is not because there are people with more SP and better gear but because there are people who are just better than them. I have 30m SP right now. I was as strong as I was ever going to be on my main fit 15m SP ago. The rest is just luxury - new toys and expensive vehicles that don't put me any more ahead of the pack when it comes to 1v1 encounters. When I have 60m SP I won't be any stronger than I am today in my Templar Assault with my Templar ScR. My point is that if you don't play the game, and don't invest the time into it, you shouldn't get the same rewards as the people who do just for showing up once in a while. What I propose is that we limit the amount of SP eligible for the rollover system. This could be somewhere around 1 million SP players could grind out if they quit dust for a couple months, have busy work weeks, go on vacation, etc. It doesn't punish players for taking short breaks from the game but also it doesn't allow players who abandon the game for extended periods of time to come back without consequence. tl;dr 1mil max SP rollover on active SP doesn't punish short breaks and encourages people to actually play -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2359	Posted - 2013.11.15 15:52:00 - [2] - Quote Absolute Idiom II wrote: I'd like to link to my suggestion for a large, constantly regenerating pool of SP: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=462915#post462915 Quote: The Alternative It's simple really. 1) Have an active SP reward pool which is the size of a 4x week's of SP, which with the current limits would be 761,600 SP. 2) Active SP rewards deplete this pool, as they do now. 3) Each tick of 30 minutes 566 SP are added back into the SP reward pool. 4) The pool never goes above the maximum size of 761,600 SP 5) Once empty, no rewards (or a nominal reward) is given). The Benefits You get to combine the pros of the weekly AND the daily cap! Pros: A) Whether you play weekly or daily, you have the opportunity to achieve the same number of active SP rewards from your plays. -- You can spread your 10 hours per week over the entire week, playing each day. Or you can have a marathon weekend and do it all in one go! B) No matter how much you have played, you will always have some more SP that you can earn the next day. A full day's worth of SP in fact. -- Even if you've earned an entire week's worth of active SP reward in the previous 2 days, you don't have to wait for a weekly reset day before it is worth playing some more C) No waiting for a reset at down time, just wait 30 minutes! D) It doesn't matter what the SP pool size is, the SP pool recovery rate is what sets how fast the maximum speed of SP accrual is. The SP pool could be set to a month's worth; the only affect would be how far in front players could be when comparing a full pool to an empty pool. Active boosters simply increase the rate at which the pool refills (and increases the max pool size). +1 This looks great. -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2364	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:18:00 - [3] - Quote Rasatsu your suggestion is dope. -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`