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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
373
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:55:00 -
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First off: This thread is a scout's view of the suit. If you're not a scout, we already know what you have to say
"It sucks, ugh".
kthxbaibai
Okay, now for actual scout players.
The black eagle scout is slightly interesting.
Initial summary: It claims to be based on a G/1 suit (ADV!) not G-1.
Interesting. And i can see how it lives up to that, with certain limitations.
Imagine you take a minmatar ADV suit: M/1 scout. It has 2 high and 2 low slots
Imagine fitting 1 ADV shield extender, and 2xferroscale plates.
Now make those slots invisible, and subtract the power usage from those, away from the visisble available suit power and cpu.
That's the base of the suit. Which means you get ONE high slot, and thats it for slots.
Then throw in BPOs of
militia shield extender, militia shotgun, militia AR, militia grenade
By itself, it's "usable" for low-power players. But if you have SP invested, it can become even better.
You have a little extra power free, so you can slap in an ADV shield extender to replace the militia BPO one in the slot, and be done.
Or, you can put in a basic one, to give yourself more head room to play in the other slots.
If you have level 5 in all related cpu/power upgrades, you MIGHT be able to fit a complex shield extender, if you put in a non-militia shotgun as well.
I had a small amount of time to play with it this morning. I did best running it as a shotgun scout, ignoring the AR.
(Not that I'm such a great scout -- I'm just sayin)
In summary, I think that if you're a scout, who has not been spoiled by running around in proto suits, then the Black Eagle is actually a useful suit.
It fits in somewhere between a basic suit, and a proto.
It has the range amp of trhe gallente, but the SPEED boost of the minmatar. Nice.
If you're new to scout stuff, and are kinda interested by the suit: I suggest you NOT use it just yet, even though it has
"no prerequisites"
Rather, I suggest that you spend some time in supercheap shotgun scout suits (or AR, if you must), just to get use to it.
If you have 0 scout suit points, maybe just use militia scout suits for a while.
(At least 10 games!)
THEN use the Black Eagle suits.
I think you'll then appreciate the boost that it gives to you.
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
373
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:56:00 -
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PS: no equipment slot.
But you dont have the power to use anything there anyway, so... oh well.
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Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
75
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:59:00 -
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I used it as by itself.
I wanted to experience what it had to offer as is.
A. Jump height is great.
B. Shotty / AR was fun, coming from a sniper/SMG
C. I missed the nanos and linkers.
D. The Shotty... Now I know why.
Pure Gallente
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
353
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:00:00 -
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Nice tips i don't think i'll use any cos it's so rare.
Assassination is my thing.
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Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1724
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:01:00 -
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Hi there, I feel like you were being passive aggressive towards my thread about the Black Eagle Scouts...just wanted to drop in and say "IT SUCKS"
kthxbai
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1405
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:02:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:PS: no equipment slot.
But you dont have the power to use anything there anyway, so... oh well.
Yeah, I threw a complex shield extender on the suit just to make it a little more survivable and I pretty much maxed out the CPU/PG. I did get a M1 on it though.
Just to be clear, I've got my CPU/PG skills maxed as well as having the SG and AR PG reduction skills to level 3 each. |
Joel II X
AHPA
137
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:02:00 -
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I'm not going to run them, anyways. I prefer my advanced gal scout with two basic shield ext and and enhanced damper with a MLT kincat. Oh, and of course the ASCR and Nova Knives. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5062
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:05:00 -
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The scan range advantage is pretty damn good on this suit if you already have level on the Gallente Scout and at least level 3 on the Range Amplification. I can see up to least 31 meters with this suit already. There is also the inherent bonus to profile dampening already built in via the Gallente Scout skill book.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
592
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:07:00 -
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is it a gallente scout or basic?
if it's gallente I'll use it, but without the damp bonus it'd be really awful. my play style centers around not being scanned every 2 seconds.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
374
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:18:00 -
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Kahn Zo wrote:I used it as by itself.
I wanted to experience what it had to offer as is.
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D. The Shotty... Now I know why.
yeeess.. yeahhhsssss... USE the dark side... 
In this game, "one shot, one kill" isnt just for snipers :D
Plus... THIS THING IS PURE BLACK!
Find yourself some shadow, and you're invisible. MUAH-hahahahahaha....
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pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
337
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:44:00 -
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Can it fit a gek? A complex precision enhancer? a crg3?
militia sg = meh
40.5 precision = meh
With flux and precision and breach sg = saboteur/can-opener
Remember when CCP installed the (R.I.P.) nighttime environment? could been fun... |
Awry Barux
Xer Cloud Consortium
310
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:49:00 -
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Anyone know if you still get extra suits if you get the 5 kills using a non Black Eagle weapon? I.e. I want to slap a sniper on it, does that still count for earning more suits? |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
375
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:06:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Anyone know if you still get extra suits if you get the 5 kills using a non Black Eagle weapon?
I think the instructions were fairly explicit about "you must use tyhe suit's weapons for credit"
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
694
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:34:00 -
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Good writeup. In the hands of a scout it's definitely a useful suit, especially if you've got a lot of SP in AR/Shotgun and the core skills. I fit a complex shield extender on there but my shotty/AR skills are all operation L1 so I'm a scrub there.
Now that I switched two using 2 sidearms, every suit is a black eagle to me now. 
Overall, I'll save 'em for when I get proficiency level in AR/Shotty and use them as when I use ADV level suits. Maybe when I'm running with someone with an injector for times when I die.... |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
378
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:43:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:
Overall, I'll save 'em for when I get proficiency level in AR/Shotty and use them as when I use ADV level suits. Maybe when I'm running with someone with an injector for times when I die....
Yeah now THAT's a good plan!
Tag-team logi bros. (hmm. or at least, regular scout with injector)
Organize on The Channel! I'll help out |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2121
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:45:00 -
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Well said, but they're still crap.
No.
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VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
200
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:56:00 -
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Proud ADV Sniper Scout, and i have to say this is actually fun. I wince at the fact that it has no Low Slots - but just slap an ADV shield extender on it and it is golden as black. Having too much fun with the Shotty..oh the shotty - i still love my sniper better.
It's range and profile dampening is impressive, and it is friggin BLACK! all black! Put me in the friggin shadows and i will go riddick on yo a$$!
I love it, i love challenges, i am on it like white on rice...or black on rice ball...or...a guinne pig on a trampoline eating a banna idk. I love it.
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity!
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Gunmouse
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
137
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:35:00 -
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I have Proto gal scout, AR prof 5, shotgun prof 3, range amp 5, all cores 5 except hacking. If I cant do good in this suit I suck. |
DTOracle
The Surrogates Of War
153
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:40:00 -
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Call me spoiled. Because, I can perform better in my G/1 & M/1 than this spanex clad commando CCP slap in a G/1 Series. I am not a fan of this suit, but then again i'm not to partial to AR's either. |
BLACK MASK D
The Exemplars
Top Men.
19
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:43:00 -
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the black eagle scout suit is what the commando should have been :p |
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DTOracle
The Surrogates Of War
155
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:51:00 -
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BLACK MASK D wrote:the black eagle scout suit is what the commando should have been :p
As long as I choose the weapons & get at least 1 low slot, then I agree. But the black eagle as it is, no way |
Aqua-Regia
561
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Posted - 2013.11.14 07:26:00 -
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