If they played against better people they wouldn't do as well, the corps with the "elite" join requirements attract a certain kind of player. This player is not having fun unless they are raping less skilled players, sure they'll go to the suggested playlist for a few matches but eventually they'll be back in pubs losing isk to boost the only stat that matters to them. This might keep the truly good players out though, as they can beat almost anyone. We really just need a match maker that balances teams based on squads.

We've done, or at least the squad I was in played FW, Skirmish and Domination non stop for the last 2-3 days, with the occational ambush game thrown in the mix. It didn't help. At least we tried. If anything, it were mostly even a much harder stomp than it is normally in ambush. 2-3 minutes of fighting and then a complete redline, most of the time. And thats why many of us don't like playing anything but ambush, where you can at least chase down the rest of the clones and finish the game. The opposition is generally better in ambush, and we meet squads from GAC, WTF etc which makes us sharpen up and play tighter, these are the fun games.

IMO this all boils down to really bad matchmaking. Why is there always 2 full squads on one team and mostly random players on the other? If the matchmaker could to a much larger degree put one proto squad on each team we'd at least avoid the thoughest brunt of the stomping. We're quite used to games where we kill the 80 clones needed for winning and we lose perhaps 5 for our team, in some cases we've also gone 80-0, its just super silly and doesn't belong in any shooter...

Teamwork is OP....

Maybe its wishful thinking, but what if the players just banded together and fought against the protos? What if they concentrated fire on a prototype suit instead of waiting for the player to die so they can get the kill? There must be something that we can do to combat this in the meantime. I really feel CCP won't change it due to the reputation of New Eden. If we all stand together, they can't beat us all.

Pubstomping occurs often because we don't band together in-game.

It's just the nature of the beast, man. It's partially CCP's fault for lack of proper matchmaking, partially the game's fault with its skill progression system, and partially your fault for not joining up with a squad and coordinating efforts.

There's no way to 100% pinpoint this problem and go "yeah, this'll fix the problem" because there will always exist people who are either better or much, much better than you. Again, it's just the nature of the beast. You really just have to learn to adapt to the situations you're presented. I'm a pretty good player (9.2 K/D) but even I know realize when there's no hope of taking on a squaded, coordinated team.

"Why do we fall sir? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up."
-Alfred Pennyworth

So i did observed player list in every protostomping battle yesterday, and in most cases it was two OP squads vs tottaly random players.

We dont want anything handed to us. This a video game, and gaming should be enjoyable. There are many casual players with wives and jobs. We dont have a time to adapt, we can play in squads and so on but even this isnt helping. Getting protostomped almost every time is frustrating, and no casual will play it for long time. And this is what people will do, they will quit and population will get even worse than now. Is this what you want a small circlejerk elitist playerbase. Im 30 years old gaming vet and i saw plenty of mmo games almost died because of stuff like this. And for now, dust 514 is going in this direction.

You have to understand, we dont want treat gaming like real life or second job. We want to enjoy it. We already have a frustrating stuff wich is called "real life", we dont need it in here too. This is why so many people already left this game.

Squads of guys in STD gear get crushed by squads of people in proto gear , you seem to be under the delusion that it's solo players complaining about the problem .. most of the people here complaining squad up and still get slaughtered by the protostompers ...

The real frustration is that it's in every single game mode .. there is no where to go to get away from it and it is soul destroying to get crushed in nearly every game because you are constantly up against people with twice as much HP more damage speed stamina etc etc

All people are looking for is 1 .. yes that's right .. 1 gamemode to get away from it and actually enjoy a balanced and fun game ... all the best games i've ever played have been close fought matches between squads of pl in ADV and STD gear ...

That only provides the illusion of fairness.

A PC squad from any of the major corps will drop six guys with AR prof 5 in a match and have a giggle fest as the noobs on the other side can't figure out how they are dying so fast.

Prof 5 Toxin SMG is hilarious on any STD frame against other similar suits.

Noobs would be better served to learn to be amatuer jihadis playing at the start of their career. Spec into RE's and grenades and bait proto bears in a MLT suit.