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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4117
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:21:00 -
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So.... apparently we dual tank in this game, which I tried to do this build to limited success....but still I think it will be a hard play style to get used to.
So like the Amarr Assault, Heavy, and Logistics Suit you tend to get the most out of them when you have skills in both Shield and Armour tanking.
So I was trying to consider what the Amarr HAV might look like at Standard Level by comparing the current trends we see in the drop suits, and then tried to consider a hypothetical fitting that might infact work for me posts 1.7 if the Amarr HAV is released.
So considering the Gunlogi and Madrugar we see base frame stats like
Madrugar-
Shields- 1200
Armour- 4000 (What the hell is this figure)
Base Frame HP= 5200 ( I had initially used a figure of about 4750 in my estimations)
High Slots- 2
Low Slots- 3
Gunlogi-
Shields- 2650
Armour- 1500
Base Frame HP= 4150 (No clue what the hell CCP was doing)
High Slots- 3
Low Slots- 2
Considering that I was trying to base a new tank frame off of the Amarrian trends.
- Equal Shield and Armour Values
-Higher Base HP
- Less Slots
-Slower Speed
-Higher PG and CPU values
This was what I came up with
XSuitablyHolyBadassNameX
Shields- 2650
Armour 2650
Base Frame HP= 5250
High Slots- 2
Low Slots- 2
Not too shabby though considering the base Madrugar HP value I either think the Maddy is in serious need of Armour Value reduction or some other hidering factor like PG and CPU shortages.
So my fitting was
XSuitablyHolyBadassNameX
Basic Shield Hardener
Basic Shield Booster
Enhanced Armour Plate
Enhance Armour Repair
Basic Sponson Turrets
Enhanced Laser Turret
Shield- 2650
Armour- 4075
Total HP- 6725
With Active Shield Hardener of 40%, and a brief injection boost of 1900 Shields, and shield rechange values will be nice in terms of bolstering the tanks Shield EHP, while I tank a decent 4k Armour with the suggested passive armour reps. Since Amarr Tanks will be longer ranged vehicles this fit should give me a good amount of EHP, and the ability to react to changing battlefield conditions.
Anyone else have thoughts.... I really should try refining this with proper math....but right now Im too lazy.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
325
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:30:00 -
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Dual tanks would suck hardcore, because your passive armor rep only shines, as long as it can rep.
Now, as long as your shield holds, your armor doesn't get damaged.
You'd have to delay your shield booster, until your armor took damage, which might be too late. |
Epicsting pro
Umbrella Logistics Inc
Public Disorder.
312
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:35:00 -
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If you look at eve side amarr can duel tank but there are given skills to rep armor faster and have higher armor resistance, which make them bricks. I would thank the hav would have a base armor rep and resistance while only have 3 low slots and no high.
For the mother land.
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
325
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:38:00 -
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Maybe Amarr tanks will have a big rubber d*ck attached to the front? |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4569
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:45:00 -
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Idiocracy is hilarious.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4117
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Posted - 2013.11.13 08:55:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Dual tanks would suck hardcore, because your passive armor rep only shines, as long as it can rep.
Now, as long as your shield holds, your armor doesn't get damaged.
You'd have to delay your shield booster, until your armor took damage, which might be too late.
True but I cannot see any other way other than this that the Amarr HAV will be designed.
2 H 2 L balance between shields and armour, which decent-high PG and CPU, but low speed.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
325
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:23:00 -
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Yeah, I think the slot layout is reasonable.
Problem is, with the current armor rep mechanic, it is not viable to dual tank. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1458
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:29:00 -
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Dual tanking while viable in many situations with derpsuits, has never been nor will be all that attractive or viable for competitive HAV play, just my two isk though.
*shrugs*
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Lorhak Gannarsein
585
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:38:00 -
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the only important thing is that there would be lasers everywhere.
Too busy clicking cookies to play DUST...
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
934
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:42:00 -
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I suppose you will have a slave with a logi LAV XD
"Just another piece of duct tape"
Some love for gunners
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
124
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:53:00 -
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Dual tanking is ok for suits because it is just buffer tanking, slap as much hp on the frame as u can. Active tanking is a whole other beast entirely.
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
327
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:08:00 -
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If CCP allows Amarr tank drivers to set an amount of damage which passes shield (e.g. 60% goes into shields, 40% goes into armor), dual tanking would be viable.
Edit: Maybe touching the rubber d*ck, which is attached to thje front side of the tank, could bring up a menu for setting this value. |
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