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Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:43:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:For a gameing universe where corporations are all powerful and the bedrock of the sandbox, the fact that we as a community have had to fight and pester for every bit of corp UI we've had so for is simply not on really.
Corp mail, notifications, Mark all Read, Delete All, roles, titles, Chat admin, give money, corp wallets, taxation, wallet divisions, player trading.... All of these should've been the minimum we had from day one.
This share issue is something that was going to happen at some point because it seems that properly working corp UI is at the very bottom of the to do list.
I hope that the silver lining in all this is that it gets bumped up much that list now that it's come to the attention of the larger community. But us corp ceo's and alliance leaders have been banging the drum on this issue from the closed beta and onwards.
Holy crap. HEAR HEAR!
+1
Pryke out.
Chamberlain of GunFall Mobilization
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Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:00:00 -
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From my own perspective, I'm noticing a lot of players have finally come to the realization this pitfall exists. This is an issue that has been known by the playerbase that actively participates in corporate mechanics for a long time. We were prudent, did not expose ourselves, and didn't get corp ganked... yet.
Repairing the damage done by corporate spies "breaks the sandbox" as it was said. Would it be fair for me to come cry on the forum because I didn't know that a superior strategy used by another team wiped me out of PC and now I'm out 60 million isk? Would a Dev refund my isk? "Poor bunny, he didn't know any better." You die, you learn. Hell that should be Dust's slogan lol.
EvE community is going to lose it when they hear of this babying.
I do agree that corp UI programming definitely needs to be first priority. The Dust-EvE link is what makes this game unique, DEVELOP it. Claiming that this game is free-to-play but requiring me to subscribe to a monthly paid game to safely manage my corporation is asinine.
TL/DR : HTFU, stop babying ppl who're n00bs to corp management. And Devs get to work on Dust corp UI. I'm collecting tax from EvE pilots that I can't use unless I promote a EvE director who can take my corp away @.@
Pryke out.
Chamberlain of GunFall Mobilization
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Pryke Bastion
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:19:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Pryke Bastion wrote:From my own perspective, I'm noticing a lot of players have finally come to the realization this pitfall exists. This is an issue that has been known by the playerbase that actively participates in corporate mechanics for a long time. We were prudent, did not expose ourselves, and didn't get corp ganked... yet.
Repairing the damage done by corporate spies "breaks the sandbox" as it was said. Would it be fair for me to come cry on the forum because I didn't know that a superior strategy used by another team wiped me out of PC and now I'm out 60 million isk? Would a Dev refund my isk? "Poor bunny, he didn't know any better." You die, you learn. Hell that should be Dust's slogan lol.
EvE community is going to lose it when they hear of this babying.
I do agree that corp UI programming definitely needs to be first priority. The Dust-EvE link is what makes this game unique, DEVELOP it. Claiming that this game is free-to-play but requiring me to subscribe to a monthly paid game to safely manage my corporation is asinine.
TL/DR : HTFU, stop babying ppl who're n00bs to corp management. And Devs get to work on Dust corp UI. I'm collecting tax from EvE pilots that I can't use unless I promote a EvE director who can take my corp away @.@ You are only assuming it was due to spying and infiltration, instead of broken game mechanics that forces dust players to depend on eve. Any eve director can steal any dust corp, and dust has no defense. If you want to use the analogy of a pc battle, if every time i used an broken game mechanic that forced you to fight one, that resulted in you automatically forfeiting the cash and clones because i found something in the code you would scream to the devs from here to high heaven. Could you imagine the uproar if a Dust player seized entire an Eve corporation and there was nothing EVE could do about it, because CCP deliberately did not code it into EVE, and told no one? CCP forced you to hire a DUST Merc director because you wanted to form an EVE alliance. Now Your entire fleet and all your assets has been seized byt DUST merc. Your members have been kicked. You will do nothing. You do not have a PSN account. You do not own playstation 3. You did not download and play DUST 514. Therefore they are the property of DUST merc. CCP set his up deliberately because shares are too complicated for EVE right now HTFU, yeah right. The would rage at CCP. There would be much weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Sry about the delay, didn't realize there was a reply.
I know for a fact that it was infiltration and the spaiz used legal methods as programmed by the devs. As Free Beers said, Corps were not meant to be introduced to dust but were only instituted after great lobbying by the playerbase. Devs knew there'd be holes and said, "Use at your own risk." This was obvious when we couldn't tax, roles were awkward, etc.
Broken game mechanics is an easy cry flag to raise. I could cry that broken game mechanics make MD and Core grenades win matches of consequence instead of good tactics. Alternatively I could walk into that PC match with the knowledge of as many variables that may contribute to the end result of the match. Many glitches have been exposed though matches and devs have not spoon fed districts back to butt-hurt players b/c they say the other team used a glitched LLAV repper or a kill-mode AR.
If players use the system to their advantage, we should usually say "good game." "Sux that I lost, but you won't get me like that again." Same should go for corp assets. Nothing stops CEOs from educating themselves, even if CCP doesn't do it. I discovered some time in JUNE that this was a security issue and as such was very careful about who got any sort of EvE power.
Coddling those who charge blithely ahead without care or caution imbalances the cause and effect consequences of the sandbox. Any Dust CEO could make a trial account in EvE just to apply to an alliance, or at least vet the ppl he's handing his corp to.
Pryke out.
Chamberlain of GunFall Mobilization
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