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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:03:00 -
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Agreed but not these ridiculous brawler Blaster Tanks....I hate how they ruin HAV combat.
Remove the Damn Large Blaster and just give turrets larger AoE which requires skill to aim and hit your targets but is possible for anti infantry gameplay.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4077
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:28:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:True Adamance wrote:Agreed but not these ridiculous brawler Blaster Tanks....I hate how they ruin HAV combat.
Remove the Damn Large Blaster and just give turrets larger AoE which requires skill to aim and hit your targets but is possible for anti infantry gameplay. Why remove the blaster? If you're using the 1.7 missile against infantry, it's one, maybe 2 dead, then 12 seconds until you can engage one infantryman again. That's not at all worth it.
The blaster has just ruined vehicle combat, IMO for what its worth, I don't like the idea of a tank carrying a 50 Cal or the equivalent as its primary weapon, I like the idea of massive ordinance over what should be a lower DPS medium turret weapon.
I would rather see us all firing main battle cannons with AoE at medium ranges to get our kills than be within 20 M just brawling like we do now. And for the most part that is all tanking in this game is since we seem to have a massive abundance of Blaster HAV.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4078
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:34:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:True Adamance wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:True Adamance wrote:Agreed but not these ridiculous brawler Blaster Tanks....I hate how they ruin HAV combat.
Remove the Damn Large Blaster and just give turrets larger AoE which requires skill to aim and hit your targets but is possible for anti infantry gameplay. Why remove the blaster? If you're using the 1.7 missile against infantry, it's one, maybe 2 dead, then 12 seconds until you can engage one infantryman again. That's not at all worth it. The blaster has just ruined vehicle combat, IMO for what its worth, I don't like the idea of a tank carrying a 50 Cal or the equivalent as its primary weapon, I like the idea of massive ordinance over what should be a lower DPS medium turret weapon. I would rather see us all firing main battle cannons with AoE at medium ranges to get our kills than be within 20 M just brawling like we do now. And for the most part that is all tanking in this game is since we seem to have a massive abundance of Blaster HAV. It's the best combination of anti vehicle and anti infantry. Missile is laughable most times, and you have to be really, really good to use a rail as anti infantry. Also no small feat to use a rail in a CQC situation against another tank (like I did a little while ago twice).
I know... I would however like to see difference in how they operate though. The Blaster is the AR of tanks. Cant it just be made and Anti Infantry weapon, leaving the Rail and Missiles and the primary Anti vehicle weapons?
Or make the rail more capable of Anti Infantry combat so atleast we start to see more variance. I like the rail but there is no reason to pick it over a blaster unless I want to hide in the redline which is cowardly at best.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4078
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:35:00 -
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Gunmouse wrote:I wouldn't suggest you be a scout. I don't think you have the skills for that. 
Scouting is fun. If I don't tank I will scout with Dual ScP, and or lasers, these being the only infantry weapons I can use.
Scouts take skill yes, but more than that they take cunning.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4079
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:47:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:That is the question.
If the finalized numbers show that it's not worth it to tank, then I'm not going to tank. Tanks are too weak and AV is just far too powerful for tanks to exist at all. Chromosome was ideal because tanks were 2-shotted by other rail tanks, but that's not good enough for infantry because they want to solo the best with MLT gear.
If I decide not to tank, my decision is in the air between logi, heavy and scout.
Inb4 the anti-vehicle brigade. HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH, HAH HAH HAH * Takes deep breath HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH My god spike, they are nerfing AV for you and you are still not happy? They are nerfing swarms range AND damage, they are nerfing forge gun and you still believe tanks are useless? Shows what a terrible tanker you really are!
I'm pretty sure tanks are getting a hard rebalancing as well, in terms of fittings I think it will be tough to make some viable fits.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4079
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:16:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:That is the question.
If the finalized numbers show that it's not worth it to tank, then I'm not going to tank. Tanks are too weak and AV is just far too powerful for tanks to exist at all. Chromosome was ideal because tanks were 2-shotted by other rail tanks, but that's not good enough for infantry because they want to solo the best with MLT gear.
If I decide not to tank, my decision is in the air between logi, heavy and scout.
Inb4 the anti-vehicle brigade. HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH, HAH HAH HAH * Takes deep breath HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH My god spike, they are nerfing AV for you and you are still not happy? They are nerfing swarms range AND damage, they are nerfing forge gun and you still believe tanks are useless? Shows what a terrible tanker you really are! I'm pretty sure tanks are getting a hard rebalancing as well, in terms of fittings I think it will be tough to make some viable fits. Well yeah you are only being given standard hulls at the moment, but as I did some theory crafting before, (you may have joined in) basically on an armour tank, hardners are most effecient after at least 2 plates. It is a long rework, things are gonna get worse before they get better!
Don't I know it, especially for an aspiring Amarrian tanker like me who will need to try to dual tank with 4 slots at Std level.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4088
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:That is the question.
If the finalized numbers show that it's not worth it to tank, then I'm not going to tank. Tanks are too weak and AV is just far too powerful for tanks to exist at all. Chromosome was ideal because tanks were 2-shotted by other rail tanks, but that's not good enough for infantry because they want to solo the best with MLT gear.
If I decide not to tank, my decision is in the air between logi, heavy and scout.
Inb4 the anti-vehicle brigade. Why do you do this to me? Why do make me have to slap you in the face with logic everytime you make a HAV/AV thread? I've never said that the best of the best should be soloed with MLT gear. Nor has anyone I've ever agreed with And on another note, should you really be talking about "OP" AV? Do you honestly think a person as hypocritical as yourself has the right to?
I'm not hypocritical so can I start talking about OP AV!
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4090
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:
Why do you do this to me? Why do make me have to slap you in the face with logic everytime you make a HAV/AV thread?
I've never said that the best of the best should be soloed with MLT gear. Nor has anyone I've ever agreed with
And on another note, should you really be talking about "OP" AV? Do you honestly think a person as hypocritical as yourself has the right to?
I'm not hypocritical so can I start talking about OP AV! "All Amarrians are hypocrites in my eyes"But on another note, I could care less if anyone QQ's about AV as long as they base their claim on facts and not situation that only happen once in a lifetime. (Which 99.99999% of the pilot community) It's just that you honestly can't be taken seriously when you cry about Forge Guns on a roof and how easy and cheap the tactic is; just to do literally the exact same thing.
1470 Damage per hit from a FG with 40% Armour Harderners on.....it hurts me mate.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4093
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:The legend345 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:That is the question.
If the finalized numbers show that it's not worth it to tank, then I'm not going to tank. Tanks are too weak and AV is just far too powerful for tanks to exist at all. Chromosome was ideal because tanks were 2-shotted by other rail tanks, but that's not good enough for infantry because they want to solo the best with MLT gear.
If I decide not to tank, my decision is in the air between logi, heavy and scout.
Inb4 the anti-vehicle brigade. Dont tank your terrible at it. If you say so.  Thanks, you just did the DUST community a huge favor and saved a lot of AV's time
\Dust will be soooooo boring without vehicles or any kind one of these days.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4095
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:50:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
...... You realize that all you have to do is stay back, find me, start firing, and make sure that I don't get close to you, right?
Some poor sap in a blaster tank tried to take me on with my rail. I let him fire away, I was firing away with my coolant going, then when he sees I'm not going down, he backs off. Big, big mistake against a rail tank. It was easy to just follow him and finish him off. .... SO why were you complaining? because smart blaster pilots like myself knows to keep on charging at you, while dodging?
Smart Blaster pilots? There are none.
Charge!.....20m! Spam most modules! Maybe Win!
Rinse and repeat.
Blaster are ruining IMO tank combat.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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