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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:43:00 -
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Because everything would still technically be at the same level they they are at now. Honestly, I think the only weapons that need a reduction are the rifles. But not 10%, maybe 8% instead.
Yes, I am a rifle user. But i'm also a forger, shotgunner, massholer, sniper, tanker, and lollav driver.
They do not need to be nerfed into oblivion like everything else. Just a small teak, that's all. |
Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
282
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:53:00 -
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Zekain K wrote: Just a small teak, that's all.
A small teak? A little mahogany? A bit of oak?
I agree, weapon damage isn't the issue and a reduction across the board doesn't do much good for anyone.
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Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
39
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:58:00 -
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I admit I am biased as I use Snipers, Shottys, and Lasers because I like niche roles but damn ARs are powerful. I can barely compete.
They should be good at everything and bad at nothing but not best at everything. Unless I'm redline sniping seems like ARs can hit me. My laser rifle? BARELY out ranges them. And nothing does enough damage.
I would be fine with AR damage if they lowered the range a bit and buffed sniper damage. If I can get two sniper shots off on you, you deserve to die. Except maybe the Kaalakiota, they can take 3. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4301
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:11:00 -
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Uhhh...
The talks about a 10% reduction to weapon damage is not for weapon balance.
It's for TTK.
1.6 made hit detection extremely good, reducing the TTK to really low levels.
People don't like that, they want the old Dust, so they want damage on weapons to be cut.
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
Beta Vet
Level 4 Forum Warrior
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1388
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:23:00 -
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I'm fine if they cut 10 percent bonus. It just has to be cut for everything. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4466
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:27:00 -
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oh god... 10% reduction to HMG? hahahahaha
May as well pick up rocks and throw at people if that happens.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2084
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:42:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because everything would still technically be at the same level they they are at now. Honestly, I think the only weapons that need a reduction are the rifles. But not 10%, maybe 8% instead.
Yes, I am a rifle user. But i'm also a forger, shotgunner, massholer, sniper, tanker, and lollav driver.
They do not need to be nerfed into oblivion like everything else. Just a small teak, that's all.
It wouldn't help weapon balance, it would help role balance.
No.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
866
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:53:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Because everything would still technically be at the same level they they are at now. Honestly, I think the only weapons that need a reduction are the rifles. But not 10%, maybe 8% instead.
Yes, I am a rifle user. But i'm also a forger, shotgunner, massholer, sniper, tanker, and lollav driver.
They do not need to be nerfed into oblivion like everything else. Just a small teak, that's all.
Generalists FTW
\o/
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1248
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Uhhh...
The talks about a 10% reduction to weapon damage is not for weapon balance.
It's for TTK.
1.6 made hit detection extremely good, reducing the TTK to really low levels.
People don't like that, they want the old Dust, so they want damage on weapons to be cut.
It's also only for automatic weapons (ar, scr, smg). Cause honestly, a mass driver's TTK is about 5x that of the ar.
"Please don't"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4310
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:21:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Uhhh...
The talks about a 10% reduction to weapon damage is not for weapon balance.
It's for TTK.
1.6 made hit detection extremely good, reducing the TTK to really low levels.
People don't like that, they want the old Dust, so they want damage on weapons to be cut. It's also only for automatic weapons (ar, scr, smg). Cause honestly, a mass driver's TTK is about 5x that of the ar.
A mass driver user only has to aim in the general direction of the person, and every hit from the mass driver makes the target's aim flinch sideways, which made me lost a bunch of firefights to MD's.
Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant
Beta Vet
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Uhhh...
The talks about a 10% reduction to weapon damage is not for weapon balance.
It's for TTK.
1.6 made hit detection extremely good, reducing the TTK to really low levels.
People don't like that, they want the old Dust, so they want damage on weapons to be cut. It's also only for automatic weapons (ar, scr, smg). Cause honestly, a mass driver's TTK is about 5x that of the ar. A mass driver user only has to aim in the general direction of the person, and every hit from the mass driver makes the target's aim flinch sideways, which made me lost a bunch of firefights to MD's.
In CQC yes, but at mid to long range the MD requires you to fire where the person is going to be instead of where he is. And in that time a full or semi-auto weapon would easily gun you down without a second thought.
The best advice for going up against another MD user is to jump left or right diagonally , as they typically won't expect that and you can avoid the MD round's splash 90% of the time.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Rowdy Railgunner
Xer Cloud Consortium
137
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:25:00 -
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If you want to reduce the DMG by 10% then quit equipping 3 or 4 complex light damage modifiers and use that slot to fit a tank. There you go problem solved TTK goes up and damage goes down. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
421
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Uhhh...
The talks about a 10% reduction to weapon damage is not for weapon balance.
It's for TTK.
1.6 made hit detection extremely good, reducing the TTK to really low levels.
People don't like that, they want the old Dust, so they want damage on weapons to be cut.
And now I don't have to post anything. |
Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
634
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:00:00 -
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I'd be ecstatic for a 5% across the board reduction.
Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
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4447
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
813
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:04:00 -
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leave the damage as it is, it's the most balanced DUST 514 has been.(Tanks are still a problem and proto weapons need a increase in price.) |
Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard
Templis Dragonaors
96
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:oh god... 10% reduction to HMG? hahahahaha
May as well pick up rocks and throw at people if that happens.
I know the feeling
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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8213
The Neutral Zone
655
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:44:00 -
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All the best weapons in FPS have one thing in common ACCURACY! The most accurate gun is the best gun, because if you are able to hit more bullets than you'll do more damage.
CoD4 - M16
MW2 - Famas
BO2 - M8Ai
I know these are all Cod references, but I use CoD a lot because most people can relate to it, not that I'm a proponent of the game. But all these guns are burst weapons, but also the most accurate weapons in the game, which made them deadly.
The SCR is DUST 514 is hands down the bet overall weapon in the game. Because it is accurate. If the AR users are b*tching about it, you kow it must be good. With the advent of better aim assist, SCRs and ARs in the capable hands (i.e.- players with the best aim) rule the battle field and even the dumbest noob can crack a positive K/D now with either gun, especially the AR, because the computer is doing a lot of the aiming for you. |
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