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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:03:00 -
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Mia Romani wrote:Not willing to let go of your AR logis, huh?
Alright, how would you guys go about stopping the Logi suit from stepping on the Assault suit's toes?
Last time I checked, it is not an issue of stepping on toes, rather it is an issue of COD/BF fan bois thinking that there needs to be an identifiable line of demarcation between a logi and an assault on the battlefield. The only difference is the fact that those that are playing assaults like running solo without the need to be with a squad (i.e., COD/BF style of play and situational attenuation) while a logi, if they are running it as a support element to a grouping, does so for the fact of creating better and a greater amount of options for their team and squad to succeed.
DonGÇÖt cry because you choose poorly or that you have envy for the versatility of LogiGÇÖs in the field.You only wish that you could do what I can. If you want adaptive survivability in the field you should have thought longer about your choice in dropsuit specialization.
Only haters hate the players.
Players are those that can make effective choices that have long term serviceability.
The fact that CCP wants to buy into this idea that Logis in a FPS should not be slayers, to some regard, is ridiculous considering that they are a FRONTLINE ELEMENT IN THE BATTLE. Very DIFFERENT THAN IN EVE.
How the hell do you expect the soldiers that have been downed in combat to continue to be on the frontline IF the LOGI cannot slay before they pick up their squad mates????? As a MERC I canGÇÖt dip out to a station, refit my ship or dropsuit in the safe confines of the station and THEN DECIDE to go back to the fight in another system. NOPE! I am stuck in the hot zone till the bitter end of the engagement. That being of course dependent upon the fact that I am dedicated to my squad and the mission at hand.
Only those that a rev worried about their KDR are the ones crying about the LogiGÇÖs being fielded at the moment.
WHAT, you expect them to be cannon fodder?? I have been a dedicated Amarr logi since the beginning of Uprising. I have been a transitional Logi since Chromosome. So the FOTM argument donGÇÖt work here. That only comes up when someone doesnGÇÖt have the time to THINK OF A REAL ARGUMENT. It is an act of laziness. Nothing less.
So, what the fact that my suits cost 30-50k more than any ASSault is not enough??? The fact that as an Amarr logi, I have less PG than another logi, let alone Assault, doesnGÇÖt put an enough of a hinderance??? The reduction of slots in exchange for the sidearm truncated with the reduced PG, slots, and equipments in addition to the expanded cost to my wallet to run an effective support suit for my squad is not enough of a detraction from skilling into it, isn't enough for you???
So since you, and I mean EVEN THE CCP DEV LOGIBRO, canGÇÖt think outside of the box and learn how to problem solve in an imaginative manner is all the reason to hamstring me and my logistics brothers and sisters??!!??
If you guys are so good, or the other classes are not, why is the answer to the problem to be bigots to the LOGIS??? Why not look for more inclusive solutions to the problem that ACTUALLY address the other problems that people have brought up about the other suits???
The more I look at these threads, the more I see the WITCH HUNT that it is. Your lack of skill and imagination is all the reason you seem to need to justify hamstringing those that have been better equipped (i.e., in decision making abilities, in imagination, in associated problem solving, in long term visions) and therefore better adapted to a longterm existence.
This is supposed to be a game of choices and consequences. If there are respecs, then where are the consequences for the choices made? If the answer to a specific technologyGÇÖs superiority on the battlefield is to nerf it, which in reality would NEVER be the answer, what hasnGÇÖt the opposite end of the spectrum been considered? Typically when superior tech is encountered in the field, the solution to the techGÇÖs superiority is the advancement of current tech, its adaptation, or the emulation of the superior tech.
But for some reason these options seem to be completely out of the realm of consideration. Why?
I want an answer from CCP. I donGÇÖt care to hear from any of these crying COD/BF children. Their superfluous words and superficial statements that they attempt to have counted as substantive arguments are nothing more than brittle paper in a fire. it doesnGÇÖt even produce a significant amount of ash in the flames of reason. If balancing was the issue, then where is all the other equipment that has the potential of bringing the entire picture and context into balance? And why would you nerf something to only go back later to buff it out or change it back to basically where it originally started at (HEAVIES! in HP and Scouts in Scan Radius).
That kind of on step forward to end up taking two steps back with just another step forward is what has left this community feeling like it is still standing in the same place as where we started in 2011.
Please, get over the ego and the narcissistic tendencies. it is not just about you few people. There are a few more people than you. Devs included with the CPM should respond to THIS.
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:12:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:^ that. Wall of text aside, it's correct.
So what my logi can fight your assault?
Learn to play ye ol 'halo' tactic and POP OUT OF COVER, shoot a bit, and pop BACK TO COVER.
The big bad logi only has an AR, play bouncy peek-a-boo until he reloads, then charge. If you hear a grenade being cooked, CHARGE IMMEDIATELY. Not joking.
I use that tactic against boundless bursts, you just gotta be careful.
If the nerf brigade successfuly removes logi's LW, i'm through. I will no longer play support logi, i will go boundless breach and cQC the **** out of every ass-ault, and i will even go as far to say that the logi should be the only suit with equipments.
Go ahead ass-aults, pick on me JUST ONCE MORE.
First you almost force CCP to pull a CoD and throw minimum arming distance, then you whine about my smg, then you whine about scrampistols.
I've grown tired of your ****, scrubs.
Fair enough. My explanations can be a bit lengthy. I attempt to address as many of the possible analogies that have been presented.
But your point is along the same lines as mine. There is cover, there are different module layouts, different weapons available. Mix it up and try something new when the same banging of head against a wall doesnGÇÖt produce the result you are looking for.
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