the math shows that it would take around 11 seconds for missiles to kill a decent fit maddy post 1.7

hey OP will you edit this when they push vehicle update again?

All of the numbers posted by CCP look fine to me. Except maybe give mIssiles more range.

Also, a booster will let you recover full shields much faster than an armor rep. So your argument that shield recharge should be higher than the armor rep is invalid.

PS Im looking forward to using Gunnlogis in 1.7, so you can't say I'm biased toward armor.

I'm vey certain that they aren't pushing the changes further back.

so? shields ALWAYS regen faster than armor, plus it would make not having a booster a good option

It's exactly that where you don't need a module and still able to regenerate which sets shield apart. Armor needs to give up a slot so it can regenerate on its own. And then it's only on par with shield regeneration. Throw in a booster to balance out the number of slots used and your regen is much higher now.

So just look at it this way. Shields can always "1-up" armor on regeneration. Without regeneration mods on both vehicles, shield has higher regeneration. If both vehicles spend one slot for regeneration, shield will again have higher regeneration. And armor will only have a slightly better regeneration when the shield vehicle doesn't give up any slots for regeneration.

all i want is a blue tag to acknowledge that devs read it.
-- snip optimistic suggestions that were offered too late for 1.7 --

So, shields natively regenerating faster than fully skilled armour modules is a...bad thing for shields.

I am le confuse...

It's exactly that where you don't need a module and still able to regenerate which sets shield apart. Armor needs to give up a slot so it can regenerate on its own. And then it's only on par with shield regeneration. Throw in a booster to balance out the number of slots used and your regen is much higher now.

So just look at it this way. Shields can always "1-up" armor on regeneration. Without regeneration mods on both vehicles, shield has higher regeneration. If both vehicles spend one slot for regeneration, shield will again have higher regeneration. And armor will only have a slightly better regeneration when the shield vehicle doesn't give up any slots for regeneration.

Don't you know already that the Madrugar is the favorite of most tank users ( I use Gunnlogi's ) so any upgrade that is asked for concerning them are mostly ignored .

How many times does the shield regenerates when it's taking fire ??? You can say vise versa about both : One has more than the other , but to me it takes longer to cut threw armor than it does shields and for the Gunnlogi there is NO way to throw extra armor on it enough for it to be super effective .

I run Madrugars with almost twenty five hundred shields and find with my armor , that I have more than enough time to fall back if I have to , but with the Gunnlogi's it seems that you have to be intuitive enough and have that much more forward thinking , so you can get away earlier because of the shield conditions and the lack or armor . Just because it has more shields doesn't make it better or make the shields stronger . You have to go threw the shields to get to the armor , so that's that tank's disadvantage , being that you face it's strength ( shields ) first and it not an offensive force but coupled with the turrets strength it could be given the time to be effective . With the Madrugars it the opposite , where you face their weakness ( shields ) first to get to their strength ( being it's armor ).

You can talk about shield regeneration all day , because that would be an argument that will go back and forth for a long time but with the NEW CHANGES that are being installed I might just stop using my vehicles all together . People will get use to the changes but it just seems to me ( like it matters ) that they ( the vehicles ) will be worst off than before .

I just can't wait to see how many will complain about the changes and what will be done afterwards .

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