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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:54:00 -
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I just don't like that people can fire it so quickly like the they use to with the TAC. Like with a modded controller or something. |
Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.11.11 15:31:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Scrutiny of the ScR suffers from the anthropic principle.
When used poorly, the ScR is barely noticeable. It can't be spammed for few lucky hits, and if you miss with the charged shot you've just lowered your dps for the next 20 seconds by about 40%.
But when it's used right, you will drop almost instantly to its opening volley, if not instantly to a well timed charge shot. It will not feel nice. You will feel helpless, maybe even wronged.
Those are the encounters you will remember, that is the impression of the ScR you will carry to the forums, and you will overlook all those times when it barely scratched you. no I can remember plenty of times when someone over heated and nearly or did kill themselves.
I just don't like it when it appears that someone is firing a semi auto weapon faster then it's auto counterpart. |
Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.11.11 15:39:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Scrutiny of the ScR suffers from the anthropic principle.
When used poorly, the ScR is barely noticeable. It can't be spammed for few lucky hits, and if you miss with the charged shot you've just lowered your dps for the next 20 seconds by about 40%.
But when it's used right, you will drop almost instantly to its opening volley, if not instantly to a well timed charge shot. It will not feel nice. You will feel helpless, maybe even wronged.
Those are the encounters you will remember, that is the impression of the ScR you will carry to the forums, and you will overlook all those times when it barely scratched you. no I can remember plenty of times when someone over heated and nearly or did kill themselves. I just don't like it when it appears that someone is firing a semi auto weapon faster then it's auto counterpart. Which overheats after 20 or so shots dealing 50 dmg (or so) and leaving you standing there with burnt fingers meaning anyone with half decent aim will kill you. I'm sure it will, but when those 20 shots come out less then a sec it's pretty tough to stay alive.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.11 15:51:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Scrutiny of the ScR suffers from the anthropic principle.
When used poorly, the ScR is barely noticeable. It can't be spammed for few lucky hits, and if you miss with the charged shot you've just lowered your dps for the next 20 seconds by about 40%.
But when it's used right, you will drop almost instantly to its opening volley, if not instantly to a well timed charge shot. It will not feel nice. You will feel helpless, maybe even wronged.
Those are the encounters you will remember, that is the impression of the ScR you will carry to the forums, and you will overlook all those times when it barely scratched you. no I can remember plenty of times when someone over heated and nearly or did kill themselves. I just don't like it when it appears that someone is firing a semi auto weapon faster then it's auto counterpart. The auto counterpart doesn't overheat in 3 seconds.
Yes? Does that mean a semi auto weapon should fire faster then? |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:09:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Scrutiny of the ScR suffers from the anthropic principle.
When used poorly, the ScR is barely noticeable. It can't be spammed for few lucky hits, and if you miss with the charged shot you've just lowered your dps for the next 20 seconds by about 40%.
But when it's used right, you will drop almost instantly to its opening volley, if not instantly to a well timed charge shot. It will not feel nice. You will feel helpless, maybe even wronged.
Those are the encounters you will remember, that is the impression of the ScR you will carry to the forums, and you will overlook all those times when it barely scratched you. no I can remember plenty of times when someone over heated and nearly or did kill themselves. I just don't like it when it appears that someone is firing a semi auto weapon faster then it's auto counterpart. The auto counterpart doesn't overheat in 3 seconds. Yes? Does that mean a semi auto weapon should fire faster then? It has high alpha strike power. That's its thing. Get over it. A semi auto weapon fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, if that's faster than an automatic, then it should be.
So did the TAC, it was nerfed. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:59:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
So did the TAC, it was nerfed.
The TAR was nerfed because people used modded controllers to fire it at ridiculous speeds with no downside. Try doing that with the ScR and it will burn your hands and seize.
I believe people are doing the same withe the semi ScR.
With no skills in it I can fire off max of 16 shots before it overheats. I tested this several times today. I'm gonna ask my buddy that has max operation skills in it to see how many he can do later today. I'm guessing it will be around 20-25 before overheat.
I'd imagine you can turn a ScR into a burst ScR with a modded controller and fire 9-10 rounds with each button press. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
So did the TAC, it was nerfed.
The TAR was nerfed because people used modded controllers to fire it at ridiculous speeds with no downside. Try doing that with the ScR and it will burn your hands and seize. I believe people are doing the same withe the semi ScR. With no skills in it I can fire off max of 16 shots before it overheats. I tested this several times today. I'm gonna ask my buddy that has max operation skills in it to see how many he can do later today. I'm guessing it will be around 20-25 before overheat. I'd imagine you can turn a ScR into a burst ScR with a modded controller and fire 9-10 rounds with each button press. You really don't want to mod your controller because the heat generation is per shot. If you mod your controller, every button press will be accompanied by 50 damage to you and a hissing sound as your weapon is disabled. Also, the weapon operation skill has no effect on the number of shots you can fire. It just makes it cool down quicker - the actual heat generation is unaffected. Continuous fire will still yield the same number of shots - if you stagger your shots you will notice a slight improvement though. I believe it's per second, and I've timed it at five seconds. I can not overheat it faster then that.
Also, sorry I thought the operations skill reduced the heat build up per sec. Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with the laser rifle or the Amarr assault bonus.
either way, he has max Amarr Assault and I'll ask him to test it out. If that's the case it should increase the firing time to 7 seconds max(it's a 300 heat build up threshold and the STD ScR has a 60 heat build up per sec so 25 percent off of that should drop it down to 45 ish) |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:14:00 -
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@Arkena, it does say per second in the description, but I understand what you mean. I guess maybe they got it mixed up or that's if your pressing the button as fast as you can and getting the full 705 rounds per minute.
I'm not saying the weapon is OP, I just wanna be clear about that.
It's just that I think with a modded control it is possible to abuse the weapon. |
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