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Eskel Bondfree
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:20:00 -
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Aim assist is starting to annoy me tbh. Imho it kinda ruines the game for the kb/m users (yeah, I know they are not loved much around here, please spare me the ds3 vs mouse debate). Playing this game with a mouse just feels more frustrating than ever: While I struggle with the crappy frame trying to get my aim on target, everyone else is shooting self guided bullets at me and I get killed as soon as I pop my head out of cover.
Making this game run with an acceptable framerate would go a long way in alleviating this situation. But something tells me this won't happen before Dust is finally ported to PC or next gen years from now. In the mean time, might as well turn down the aim assist a little, or drastically increase TTK so the kb/m users get some time to react and land a few hits before they are shredded by a hail of bullets homing in on them. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
1356
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Why nerf Hit detection?
It should always be buff hit detection.
The game required more skill before hit detection was "fixed" in 1.6.
Now it's just whoever sees who first kills them.
I, personally, would rather have faulty hit detection and a game that takes skill than good hit detection that only relies on stacking HP.
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.
-Mark Twain
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
176
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:19:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:byebye beautiful wrote:How about we leave the ar alone knowing its getting nerfed and start lining up the nerf bat for the scrambler rifle and its 0 recoil Scrambler over heats if you dont know how to use it and its semi auto so yea its supposed to have almost no recoil. also the assault variant has way more recoil than any assault rifle. The ar is first up to get smacked...enjoy. Assault variant has slight kick. BUT, it NEVER rises up. Try holding down the fire button with both while aiming down sights. AR will kick like a mule and go wild, while ASCR will stay static. It also has a larger clip, slightly more range (even more range in 1.7), tighter hip fire. So uh... Your move.
Uh.. you have not used both have you?
Try ADS, you will notice that the dispersion on the assault scrambler makes it damn near useless past 30 meters...
The AR has pinpoint accuracy out past it's optimal.
an easy fix to Matchmaking
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Talos Vagheitan
167
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:39:00 -
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Here's an absolutely insane idea.
Decrease the AA as your weapon tier gets higher.
Example:
Militia AR: Leave AA as it is
Adv AR: Reduced AA
Proto AR: Very little AA
Also, have damage mods apply a slight penalty to AA.
The more damage you do, the more skilled you need to be since the computer will be doing less and less aiming for you.
This would increase TTK, still give noobs a chance, and not punish skilled players.
CCP already encorporated something similar with dropships. The militia dropship now auto-levels itself, but once you upgrade to advanced, the training wheels come off.
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
276
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Posted - 2013.11.11 03:14:00 -
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I wonder if the developers actually look at your posts.
I don't fight for the Amarr. I fight with them.
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
362
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Posted - 2013.11.11 04:25:00 -
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LOL, I'll have to show you the 898 DMG and 800+ DMG screen shots that I have from your beloved AR at 60+ m away. They're lovely to trolololol with.
Director (Management)
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Mikey Ducati
Xer Cloud Consortium
5
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Posted - 2013.11.11 04:29:00 -
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nerf the pfc
nerf the order
buff the chaos |
castba
Penguin's March
195
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:15:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:byebye beautiful wrote:How about we leave the ar alone knowing its getting nerfed and start lining up the nerf bat for the scrambler rifle and its 0 recoil Scrambler over heats if you dont know how to use it and its semi auto so yea its supposed to have almost no recoil. also the assault variant has way more recoil than any assault rifle. The ar is first up to get smacked...enjoy. Assault variant has slight kick. BUT, it NEVER rises up. Try holding down the fire button with both while aiming down sights. AR will kick like a mule and go wild, while ASCR will stay static. It also has a larger clip, slightly more range (even more range in 1.7), tighter hip fire. So uh... Your move. Uh.. you have not used both have you? Try ADS, you will notice that the dispersion on the assault scrambler makes it damn near useless past 30 meters... The AR has pinpoint accuracy out past it's optimal. Oh and muzzle rise for the AR is non-existant for the first half a clip, enough to kill most suits.
There is no muzzle rise if you feather the fire button. |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:25:00 -
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Remove AA! Nerf gun damage, but always improve hit detection. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1945
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Posted - 2013.11.11 11:13:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:LOL, I'll have to show you the 898 DMG and 800+ DMG screen shots that I have from your beloved AR at 60+ m away. They're lovely to trolololol with.
I don't generally use the standard AR, unless it's a CQC map. I dislike the AR.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1865
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Posted - 2013.11.11 11:27:00 -
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Just you wait.
Just you wait until the ARs are nerfed. You folks wanna complain now? The SCR is a major problem but the big mouths always complaining about ARs don't talk about that.
A SCR range will tear your head off. Skilled up, it kills you just as fast as a Duvolle if not faster. The damage and rapid fire of its shots will sit you down flicking your finger between your lips like you wear dunce caps to school.
But we want to constantly, over and over again talk about ARs are the problem. I beg to differ... |
byebye beautiful
Unkn0wn Killers
1
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:10:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Just you wait.
Just you wait until the ARs are nerfed. You folks wanna complain now? The SCR is a major problem but the big mouths always complaining about ARs don't talk about that.
A SCR range will tear your head off. Skilled up, it kills you just as fast as a Duvolle if not faster. The damage and rapid fire of its shots will sit you down flicking your finger between your lips like you wear dunce caps to school.
But we want to constantly, over and over again talk about ARs are the problem. I beg to differ...
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1636
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:40:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Zion Shad wrote:AA is not that bad in this game and for new bros it helps with hit detect. If its Nurf any lower it be same as before. But Pyrex is right. Because the TTK is so low, this game is no longer a "high HP and TTK" shooter. Proto doesn't even matter, anymore. I'll run a 400 HP suit and die just as quickly vs my 800 HP callogi. Hell, scouts dont even die that much faster and ive been running mlt MN light frame. The AR needs a 10% damage reduction and a massive range nerf. HIt boxes need to be appropriately sized, and strafing speeds and turn speeds need to be returned to their chromosome stats (except the super fast side-strafe glitch. lol.)
While I feel proto SHOULDNT be that much of a great thing, I won't say no to a massive TTK buff
I like halo-like games, and if that is brought back I'd be happy.
I don't find TTK THAT exaggerated as you all complain about.
But bumping it up a bit cannot be hated.
Leave aim assist alone. It has nothing to do with HP being underwhelming.
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Replication Warrior
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2347
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:57:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Nerf the AR. Nerf Aim Assist. Nerf hit detection.
Don't forget the ScR!
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KA24DERT
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
259
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:58:00 -
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Nerf the AR, Nerf the SCR, Remove Aim Assist, Buff hit detection.
If aim assist stays as is, the SCR and AR need a 30% damage nerf.
If aim assist is removed entirely, the AR still needs recoil/dispersion, and the ScR *might* still need a nerf (we'll see after the overheat bypass glitch is patched). |
Vell0cet
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
581
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:16:00 -
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AR, ScR, SMG, (probably the new rifles based on the stats) need a significant base DPS nerf. ARs need a little kick (less than what the AScR has) and need to be turbo-proof. Keep AA, it's very weak compared to other games and is in-line with people's expectations of a console shooter. Improve KB/M. Boost LR range to 120m. Speed up the Plasma Cannon projectile speed. Make grenades only restockable at supply depots. Limit equipment spamming to x units per character. Keep improving hit detection. If CCP does all of this, I think the core gameplay will be in a solid, fairly-balanced place.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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