DUST Search - Need help with Proto Minmatar Assault

Cosgar wrote:

Think of Minmatar assault as an assault/scout hybrid. It's not really good at slugging it out with the other racial assaults, but it's perfect for flanks and ganks. The only thing I don't like about the suit is that it's very CPU starved and you're going to be using an enhancer 90% of the time. Armor > shield imbalance doesn't really help its case either. But still, 5 high slots and a bonus that adds clip size to sidearms is more than worth it. This is what I've been using on an alt:

Assault MK.0
3 Complex Extender
Enhanced Recharger (Energizer if you have the CPU)
Complex Sidearm Damage Mod
Basic Reactive Plate (or Complex Dampener)
CPU Enhancer
Ishukone SMG
TT-3 Assault Scrambler Pistol
M-1 Locus Grenade
Compact Nanohive

CPU is always going to be a bit sparse no matter your fitting so it's good to get weapon operation skills maxed before you max circuitry since they're cheaper. Both the Ishukone and TT-3 are excellent, easy to fit, fun to use weapons that make damn good primaries. I usually try to flank with a squad and get the drop on people with the TT-3 and mop them up with the Ishukone. You could swap out the pistol for a core flaylock if you're short on PG and get about the same results with the added benefit of the extra rocket in the clip, just make sure you aim around the knee area for direct hits. Another option would be to do dual SMGs and unload 200 rounds of pain before having to reload. I'd probably switch out an extender for another damage mod for that if you don't have SMG proficiency 3. The basic reactive is nice to have for that extra bit of buffer for ScR rifles and lasers, but if people are running scanners, you could swap it for a complex dampener and give at least basic scanners the slip.

Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

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DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2430	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:37:00 - [1] - Quote I skilled into this for AV, which it is quite good for.Though, I have been using it as a regular assault suit and my impressions are that it sucks No matter how much I tank, the suit seems to die faster than my tanked Gallante Scout. I've tried shield tanking, again standard Gallante scout does it better. Armor tanking, not that good when you have only two lows. EWarfare, scouts and logis do it better. I have tried to learn from how other people run their Minmatar Assault's on the field, but their seem to be few that last more than two seconds before I blinked and they are gone. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Or is this suit destined to only ever be a decent AV suit? Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 18:41:00 - [2] - Quote Use speed to abuse strafing/cover, fast regen and dmg mods. You are supposed to kill one enemy and kite back when playing assault really. It is not for front line "tanking" as many believe, that role is for the heavy. Assaults are more skirmishers/flankers. This is what the assault suit is for, atleast what I believe. You only need 1 enhanced plate. Probably you want to get an AScR or Combat Rifle in combination with a sidearm that complements it well, e.g. SMG for scrambler rifle, and scrambler pistol for Combat Rifle. Also get Core Locus Grenades. Probably injector, repair&ammo hive or uplinks in the equipment slot. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 226	Posted - 2013.11.09 18:43:00 - [3] - Quote Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1330	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:52:00 - [4] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. Viscen He's a beast with that Shotgun. Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. -Mark Twain :D
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2437	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:20:00 - [5] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. Alright, I see what you are getting at. Damn, now I need to skill into regulators and energizers T.T Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 231	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:40:00 - [6] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. Viscen He's a beast with that Shotgun. Viscen, Ranger, and WolfmanMike... Minmatar beat down specialists.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 231	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:44:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. Alright, I see what you are getting at. Damn, now I need to skill into regulators and energizers T.T Try a complex shield extender, complex energizer, damage mod, ferro scale plate, and complex code breaker. Remotes, Ar, SMG, and core locus. It's a decent omni tanker, hits hard, hack/remote guy...really good set up to work outside objectives either solo or with a buddy.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1332	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:52:00 - [8] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. Viscen He's a beast with that Shotgun. Viscen, Ranger, and WolfmanMike... Minmatar beat down specialists. /o\ forgot about Ranger. I thought Wolfman was a Min Logi though? Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. -Mark Twain :D
Cosgar ParagonX 7559	Posted - 2013.11.10 04:43:00 - [9] - Quote Think of Minmatar assault as an assault/scout hybrid. It's not really good at slugging it out with the other racial assaults, but it's perfect for flanks and ganks. The only thing I don't like about the suit is that it's very CPU starved and you're going to be using an enhancer 90% of the time. Armor > shield imbalance doesn't really help its case either. But still, 5 high slots and a bonus that adds clip size to sidearms is more than worth it. This is what I've been using on an alt: Assault MK.0 3 Complex Extender Enhanced Recharger (Energizer if you have the CPU) Complex Sidearm Damage Mod Basic Reactive Plate (or Complex Dampener) CPU Enhancer Ishukone SMG TT-3 Assault Scrambler Pistol M-1 Locus Grenade Compact Nanohive CPU is always going to be a bit sparse no matter your fitting so it's good to get weapon operation skills maxed before you max circuitry since they're cheaper. Both the Ishukone and TT-3 are excellent, easy to fit, fun to use weapons that make damn good primaries. I usually try to flank with a squad and get the drop on people with the TT-3 and mop them up with the Ishukone. You could swap out the pistol for a core flaylock if you're short on PG and get about the same results with the added benefit of the extra rocket in the clip, just make sure you aim around the knee area for direct hits. Another option would be to do dual SMGs and unload 200 rounds of pain before having to reload. I'd probably switch out an extender for another damage mod for that if you don't have SMG proficiency 3. The basic reactive is nice to have for that extra bit of buffer for ScR rifles and lasers, but if people are running scanners, you could swap it for a complex dampener and give at least basic scanners the slip. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2439	Posted - 2013.11.10 05:06:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Think of Minmatar assault as an assault/scout hybrid. It's not really good at slugging it out with the other racial assaults, but it's perfect for flanks and ganks. The only thing I don't like about the suit is that it's very CPU starved and you're going to be using an enhancer 90% of the time. Armor > shield imbalance doesn't really help its case either. But still, 5 high slots and a bonus that adds clip size to sidearms is more than worth it. This is what I've been using on an alt: Assault MK.0 3 Complex Extender Enhanced Recharger (Energizer if you have the CPU) Complex Sidearm Damage Mod Basic Reactive Plate (or Complex Dampener) CPU Enhancer Ishukone SMG TT-3 Assault Scrambler Pistol M-1 Locus Grenade Compact Nanohive CPU is always going to be a bit sparse no matter your fitting so it's good to get weapon operation skills maxed before you max circuitry since they're cheaper. Both the Ishukone and TT-3 are excellent, easy to fit, fun to use weapons that make damn good primaries. I usually try to flank with a squad and get the drop on people with the TT-3 and mop them up with the Ishukone. You could swap out the pistol for a core flaylock if you're short on PG and get about the same results with the added benefit of the extra rocket in the clip, just make sure you aim around the knee area for direct hits. Another option would be to do dual SMGs and unload 200 rounds of pain before having to reload. I'd probably switch out an extender for another damage mod for that if you don't have SMG proficiency 3. The basic reactive is nice to have for that extra bit of buffer for ScR rifles and lasers, but if people are running scanners, you could swap it for a complex dampener and give at least basic scanners the slip. I use a GEK-38 and Ishukone Assault SMG. It's OK, though, it only works on one target. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 816	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:54:00 - [11] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. I play Minmatar Scout and have Minmatar assault suits. Can confirm. Assault is better at scouting than the scout "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 269	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:57:00 - [12] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Honestly depends on your play style. Minmatar assault works really well with a hit and run style...not a stand and trade DPS style. I have two corp mates that make outstanding use of Minmatar assault suits and I expect they will be demonstrating Combat Rifle Beast Mode in a few weeks. Both of them essentially use constant motion and flanking to get the most out of the suits speed. They also make good use of shield regulators and energizes. Squishy, yes...but they recoup HP like Wolvwrine on crack. My personal thought is that the Minmatar assault is the best scout suit in the game. Try playing it that way and see what you think. Viscen He's a beast with that Shotgun. Viscen, Ranger, and WolfmanMike... Minmatar beat down specialists. /o\ forgot about Ranger. I thought Wolfman was a Min Logi though? Wolfmans runs both I think. He just picked up Caldari proto assault as well.
DeadlyAztec11 2284	Posted - 2013.11.29 05:17:00 - [13] - Quote Damn, I just can't make this suit work for me... Screw it, I am just going to stick with the Minmatar Scout. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 363	Posted - 2013.11.29 10:53:00 - [14] - Quote Mk0 3 complex shield 2 complex damage mods 1x duvolle 1 green 1 basic armour basic smg nanos locus
DeadlyAztec11 2318	Posted - 2013.11.29 14:48:00 - [15] - Quote xAckie wrote: Mk0 3 complex shield 2 complex damage mods 1x duvolle 1 green 1 basic armour basic smg nanos locus I don't have Complex shields lol And my only two proto weapons are SMG'S and Swarm Launchers. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 175	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:42:00 - [16] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: xAckie wrote: Mk0 3 complex shield 2 complex damage mods 1x duvolle 1 green 1 basic armour basic smg nanos locus I don't have Complex shields lol And my only two proto weapons are SMG'S and Swarm Launchers. If you don't have the necessary.proto defense modules why did you go proto?
DeadlyAztec11 2323	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:45:00 - [17] - Quote Centurion mkII wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: xAckie wrote: Mk0 3 complex shield 2 complex damage mods 1x duvolle 1 green 1 basic armour basic smg nanos locus I don't have Complex shields lol And my only two proto weapons are SMG'S and Swarm Launchers. If you don't have the necessary.proto defense modules why did you go proto? AV The suit is extremely good against vehicles but is absolutely horrid against infantry. I also have complex damage mods just for this reason. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 277	Posted - 2013.11.30 06:12:00 - [18] - Quote I have 23 minnie assault fittigs, 2 are snipers, one's Av, and 2 are plasma cannons. The idea for maximum effectiveness is to make use of weapons that don't require you to be constantly in sight: Mass driver, plasma cannon, shotgun, proficiencied SMG, scrampistols. Carry your own ammo and stay away from the group, try and get behind or above thw enemy. On paper it's just a caldari assault with half its armor rusted off. But in practice it's gosh darn near the most deadly thing i've met. -Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist- "You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'"
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. 263	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:41:00 - [19] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: xAckie wrote: Mk0 3 complex shield 2 complex damage mods 1x duvolle 1 green 1 basic armour basic smg nanos locus I don't have Complex shields lol And my only two proto weapons are SMG'S and Swarm Launchers. You are running proto suit without all complex mods, mistake number one. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
DeadlyAztec11 2388	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:22:00 - [20] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: xAckie wrote: Mk0 3 complex shield 2 complex damage mods 1x duvolle 1 green 1 basic armour basic smg nanos locus I don't have Complex shields lol And my only two proto weapons are SMG'S and Swarm Launchers. You are running proto suit without all complex mods, mistake number one. ;_; This is what happens when you try to skill into everything. Nothing gets done. Anyways, I think I am going to just skill into the Gallante Basic Medium Frame. Only 400,000 SP to go. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.



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