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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.09 12:42:00 -
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Hold shitfucksbatman people...if I see one more thread detailing how to reduce the ar's effectiveness when the SCR is better than the AR I'm gonna lose hope in the community.
That's Masternader to you scrub.
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Posted - 2013.11.09 13:06:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Hold shitfucksbatman people...if I see one more thread detailing how to reduce the ar's effectiveness when the SCR is better than the AR I'm gonna lose hope in the community. The AR is an automatic sniper rifle with no downsides or balancing features. It can down a heavy with 1300 ehp in less than 2 seconds from 50+ meters away. The ASCR actually has recoil and dispersion while ADS, which prevents it from being an automatic sniper rifle, thus balancing it. The SR is NOT automatic and overheats if fired too quickly. It also is less effective in terms of damage AND accuracy at close range. This weapon is balanced. Why is the SR better than the AR again?
charged shot and you still volley another 5 shots (with heat to spare) and you do over 1k damage.
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Posted - 2013.11.09 13:35:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Hold shitfucksbatman people...if I see one more thread detailing how to reduce the ar's effectiveness when the SCR is better than the AR I'm gonna lose hope in the community. Why is the SR better than the AR again? charged shot and you still volley another 5 shots (with heat to spare) and you do over 1k damage. ...because it's a skill weapon, not an automatic sniper. It's what balances the weapon and makes it so that not everyone can use it. It also isn't as effective against armor and armor tanks. If I die by a scrambler I know that the person had to aim his shot percicely and make it count. If I die by an AR from 100 meters away because he held down a trigger while aiming at my body and hit me with every single round, I know that there needs to be something done with the recoil/dispersion of that weapon.
When people say things like "auto sniper" I kinda lol. It doesn't do over 100 damage a shot....not even close. The Imperial has no issues doing damage at the ranges AR's do.
In practice
Imperial SCR's >Duvolle every time.
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:01:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Anyone saying the SCR is a skill weapon is full of **** and never actually tried a fully skilled SCR.
If it wasn't for the SCR's CPU/PG requirements, I would use it on all suits. Proficiency V right here :P And yes, it IS a skill weapon. I could be wrong, but I don't see just anyone picking up the SR and killing a heavy in 2 seconds. Yet I see noobs with Militia ARs downing them left and right almost every round.
You show me a video of a heavy being mowed down 1v1 vs a militia ar and I'm gonna show you a video of a bad heavy who can't aim....or a proto suit rocking 3x damage mods using a militia ar to give himself a bit more of a challenge with 48 bullets.
Heavies need an hmg range buff, yes. but in cqc if the heavy loses to a militia assault rifle most likely, he was bad or got ambushed.
SCR took me about 3 days to start droping 30+ kill skirms...about 3 weeks to consistently put up 40-50 kill games...solo without OB's I'll get you some pics if you like) I can't drop the same kills with the ar because the scr can charge and shoot, and then duck behind cover...allowing me to pick off charging squads without a problem where and ar requires the sustained removal of cover.
And really I think the scr is only slightly better than the ar...except on the amarr assault...where it evolves into ez mode.
That's Masternader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:02:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:He meant how much they do against armor/shields. Scrambler is -20% armor +20% shields because it is LASER AR is -5% armor +10% shields because it is PLASMA Hybrid is 100% damage to both shields/armor (i.e. forge gun) Railgun is ? (I know it's good against armor) Projectile is +10% armor...not sure about shields Explosive is +20% armor -20% shields I bet if you hit the search button and typed in "plasma hybrid 20%" something might come up.
You should have just kept reading the link he posted....it said that the ar does +10% shields and -10% armor. 
That's Masternader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:05:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Hold shitfucksbatman people...if I see one more thread detailing how to reduce the ar's effectiveness when the SCR is better than the AR I'm gonna lose hope in the community. In other words, you're backing a dead horse, and will be upset when you find out you can't ride it anymore?.... seriously?
Is backing a new sex position I need to know about? riding dead horses sounds fun.
Anyways...Seriously?!? 
That's Masternader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:17:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
lolno.
I kill people with my SCR faster than any assault rifle could.
Psst, it has 931 DPS if you can tap the trigger fast enough, and that's not including proficiency or damage mods ;)
Exactly, because you are a skilled player and therefore use the weapon more effectively because it is a skill based weapon. Any other non-skilled player would find the SR hard to use and a piece of crap compared to the AR. You just made your argument invalid...?
Cat Merc openly admits he's a scrub....now who's argument is invalidated.
That's Masternader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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