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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:58:00 -
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been thinking about this idea for a while. Having heavy logi's that can deploy active scanners/shield generators and such. Give them 1 high 3 low and 2 equipment slots. Give them high level of pg/cpu for heavy equipment like those generators. Could also give them the ability to launch drones, ammo depots, small deployable turrets...
Just some idea's. Flame away. |
Saxbrin Shain
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:08:00 -
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I just watched a video from CCP trying to pitch DUST. It was full of inaccuracies like "every Orbital strike is from an EVE Pilot!" but what really stood out was the way they touted customization.
"Tired of being a paper-thin sniper? Ever wondered what it would be like to be a sniper in heavy armor? You can do that!" Well, you know what I'd like? To be a Logi in heavy armor. You can't do that. |
CPL Bloodstone
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:11:00 -
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Well you can be a gimped heavy logi, commando has 1 equipment slot.......
I just think the idea sounds great to have a Heavy Logi for big stuff like vehicle repairs, turret deployment and shield generators. soooo many idea's can come from this. Give them drones like in eve.........scary stuff there!
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:12:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:I just watched a video from CCP trying to pitch DUST. It was full of inaccuracies like "every Orbital strike is from an EVE Pilot!" but what really stood out was the way they touted customization.
"Tired of being a paper-thin sniper? Ever wondered what it would be like to be a sniper in heavy armor? You can do that!" Well, you know what I'd like? To be a Logi in heavy armor. You can't do that.
Because 1250 EHP logi builds don't excist .....Oh Wait .......
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:12:00 -
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Maybe one day we can make T3 suits/vehicles/weapons like the T3 cruisers in EVE
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Saxbrin Shain
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:18:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Because 1250 EHP logi builds don't excist .....Oh Wait .......
Congratulations on missing the point and interjecting with your own prejudices. The dropsuit class system keeps fittings rather rigid, despite the fact that CCP produced a video claiming incredible flexibility. I understand that Logistics suits are incredibly more versatile than any other class, but that's not the "You can do that!" promised in the video. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:21:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Because 1250 EHP logi builds don't excist .....Oh Wait ....... Congratulations on missing the point and interjecting with your own prejudices. The dropsuit class system keeps fittings rather rigid, despite the fact that CCP produced a video claiming incredible flexibility. I understand that Logistics suits are incredibly more versatile than any other class, but that's not the "You can do that!" promised in the video.
No, i got the point pretty much but eventually IF Heavys had a logi suit, then youll get the scouts asking for their HMG, lines have to be drawn somewhere, i am still waiting for my AV equipment slot on my assault suit.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:27:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Maybe one day we can make T3 suits/vehicles/weapons like the T3 cruisers in EVE
T2 seems a logical next step, A Tengu Tier 3 suit with dead space modules seems a bit OP =p but i would like to see Rigs as an Expensive fitting option to suits, like you add x3 Rigs that costs 100k each to a 200k suit.
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Saxbrin Shain
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:28:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:i am still waiting for my AV equipment slot on my assault suit.
You have a Light Weapon slot you can fit with a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon, an Equipment slot you can fit with Remote Explosives or Proximity Explosives, and a Grenade slot you can fit with A/V Grenades. Every single piece of anti-vehicle equipment is available to you except Forge Guns.
What more do you want? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:33:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:i am still waiting for my AV equipment slot on my assault suit. -snip-What more do you want?
Obviously not Heavy Logi suits....
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:41:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:i am still waiting for my AV equipment slot on my assault suit. You have a Light Weapon slot you can fit with a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon, an Equipment slot you can fit with Remote Explosives or Proximity Explosives, and a Grenade slot you can fit with A/V Grenades. Every single anti-vehicle item is available to you except Forge Guns. What more do you want?
To be able to fire ob's from my anus.
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Saxbrin Shain
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:43:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Obviously not Heavy Logi suits....
SoGǪ why are you here? Your time would be better spent creating or commenting in a threat on a subject you're interested in than it is trolling here.
A Heavy suit with a single Light Weapon slot, limited High and Low slots, and two or three Equipment slots would be an excellent option available to a character that has Logistics and Sentinel suits trained. Just because you wouldn't use it doesn't mean it's a bad idea or can't be balanced. I wouldn't use it, either. |
CPL Bloodstone
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:46:00 -
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The idea was meant further give us diverse options. My thinking was it would be used to provide Logistical support vehicles and deploy heavy equipment options. Were as the medium logistic would take care of small/medium equipment and infantry support. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:50:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Obviously not Heavy Logi suits.... SoGǪ why are you here? Your time would be better spent creating or commenting in a threat on a subject you're interested in than it is trolling here. A Heavy suit with a single Light Weapon slot, limited High and Low slots, and two or three Equipment slots would be an excellent option available to a character that has Logistics and Sentinel suits trained. Just because you wouldn't use it doesn't mean it's a bad idea or can't be balanced. I wouldn't use it, either.
Ok so put it all into perspective, you guys want CCP to design an additional Logi suit, worse at logistics, like Heavies already gotten the severly gimped and underused commando suit.
Now you want them to focus on a simular suit with a gigantic hitbox, with roughly the same amount of health current logi's can get....same PG/CPU and less Equipment slots, to do what exactly ? Worse logistics operations ?
I mean ...ffs let them finish all racial variants first, then talk about about adding another useless suit to the game.
Quote:The idea was meant further give us diverse options. My thinking was it would be used to provide Logistical support vehicles and deploy heavy equipment options. Were as the medium logistic would take care of small/medium equipment and infantry support.
It sounds allot like a T2 specialized suit for one certain area of expertise, like i said they should first release all the heavy suits and all racial variant weapons, its bad enough as it is with just 1 Amarr version
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Saxbrin Shain
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:06:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote: Ok so put it all into perspective, you guys want CCP toGǪ
GǪkeep doing what they're doing. Sorry, I'm just not stupid enough to think CCP will read a forum thread and immediately stop everything they're doing to implement a half-baked idea. In fact, if their internal brainstorming sessions are worth a damn, I expect that ideas similar to this have already been suggested.
I'm still going to have fun discussing it, though. If I can waste your time in the processGǪ BONUS!
EVE has ships that require cross-training, usually belonging to pirate factions. Since pirate factions aren't currently manufacturing dropsuits or equipment, it makes more sense that cross-trained dropsuits would cross dropsuit class boundaries rather than escape a race's philosophical paradigms. Expanding it to ideas like HMG/Forge Gun Scouts and more agile Assault suits isn't too far-fetched.
But none of that makes any sense until the full spectrum of currently planned dropsuits and weapons are implemented. That would be ******* stupid. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:14:00 -
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Quote:I'm still going to have fun discussing it, though. If I can waste your time in the processGǪ BONUS!
Oh because time spend on this forum is otherwise not wasted ? /check
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:19:00 -
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Saxbrin Shain wrote:I just watched a video from CCP trying to pitch DUST. It was full of inaccuracies like "every Orbital strike is from an EVE Pilot!" but what really stood out was the way they touted customization.
"Tired of being a paper-thin sniper? Ever wondered what it would be like to be a sniper in heavy armor? You can do that!" Well, you know what I'd like? To be a Logi in heavy armor. You can't do that.
Edit: Don't get me wrong: the level of customization in this game is impressive. Anybody complaining that the game is shallow because you can't select attachments for weapons has never tried to fit a Dropsuit. But most dropsuits are very limited in their capabilities due to slot layout and PG/CPU restrictions. Logistics suits are, by and large, the most flexible. Hmm.
Seems intriguing.
Perhaps this heavy logi could drop the heavy weap for 2 equipment, and keep slots.
Just move the rate a Sentinel moves, and arm themselves like a regular logi.
Slightly lower Base health, no slot hits.
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Idye Lotz
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:41:00 -
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I actually posted something similar a long time ago:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1149979#post1149979
Sorry for shooting you in the back. Now please look elsewhere so I can continue.
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jamstar saa187
the third day Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:46:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:been thinking about this idea for a while. Having heavy logi's that can deploy active scanners/shield generators and such. Give them 1 high 3 low and 2 equipment slots. Give them high level of pg/cpu for heavy equipment like those generators. Could also give them the ability to launch drones, ammo depots, small deployable turrets... Just some idea's. Flame away.
You sir are what i call an Optimist!!
but i will give you the bump 'cus ANY additional options for the Heavy class would be an upgrade to the pretty straightforward roles the class currently has. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:48:00 -
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This kinda thing wouldn't be suggested if logis did their jobs
But seriously this makes as much sense as a commando so......go for it I guess.
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:51:00 -
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Why not just have more support roles for the damn logi.
****, people make things more complex than it needs to be.
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General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:57:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:been thinking about this idea for a while. Having heavy logi's that can deploy active scanners/shield generators and such. Give them 1 high 3 low and 2 equipment slots. Give them high level of pg/cpu for heavy equipment like those generators. Could also give them the ability to launch drones, ammo depots, small deployable turrets... Just some idea's. Flame away. Learn how to use apostrophes! It's just ideas
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CPL Bloodstone
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:30:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:This kinda thing wouldn't be suggested if logis did their jobs More or less logi for vehicles and turret deployment stuff not for infantry But seriously this makes as much sense as a commando so......go for it I guess. Commando's are underrated, im currently exploring the opportunities.
Hope they send scouts some love too Minja!
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