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Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 319	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:42:00 - [1] - Quote this has been killing me (and foes ) for awhile and so far I haven't seen anyone avoid the Null cannons or installation - even the proto scouts! so, just a small change with a major effect is to give Null cannons & installations a 44DB scan precision- that way light frames are no longer the scouts equal (UP equal) and any non-scout will have to equip dampeners to be stealthy. scouts have been dying unfairly (especially PROFILE DAMPENED ones) because they've been scanned to the entire enemy team, unknowingly but impossible to avoid. remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 588	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:46:00 - [2] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: this has been killing me (and foes ) for awhile and so far I haven't seen anyone avoid the Null cannons or installation - even the proto scouts! so, just a small change with a major effect is to give Null cannons & installations a 44DB scan precision- that way light frames are no longer the scouts equal (UP equal) and any non-scout will have to equip dampeners to be stealthy. scouts have been dying unfairly (especially PROFILE DAMPENED ones) because they've been scanned to the entire enemy team, unknowingly but impossible to avoid. 40 dB. Otherwise light suits could just put a few points in Dampening. Edit: But yes, Allow my scout to actually be stealthy around enemy objectives. +1
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 296	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:17:00 - [3] - Quote +1
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 249	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:57:00 - [4] - Quote +1 It's such a pain to not be able to be stealthy as a scout. 'Insert witty signature here'
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 627	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:23:00 - [5] - Quote Yes please. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 322	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:05:00 - [6] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Lightning Bolt2 wrote: this has been killing me (and foes ) for awhile and so far I haven't seen anyone avoid the Null cannons or installation - even the proto scouts! so, just a small change with a major effect is to give Null cannons & installations a 44DB scan precision- that way light frames are no longer the scouts equal (UP equal) and any non-scout will have to equip dampeners to be stealthy. scouts have been dying unfairly (especially PROFILE DAMPENED ones) because they've been scanned to the entire enemy team, unknowingly but impossible to avoid. 40 dB. Otherwise light suits could just put a few points in Dampening. Edit: But yes, Allow my scout to actually be stealthy around enemy objectives. +1 hadn't really thought of that, It would probably be better for 40DB to make scouts be able to sneak around objectives and have other suits need profile dampeners to get through undetected. remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 323	Posted - 2013.11.09 07:09:00 - [7] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: It's such a pain to not be able to be stealthy as a scout. I know, been frustrating me after I noticed a few other scouts getting scanned (not blinking) while solo! and I can't count how many times a heavy, A HEAVY detects my scout just because of that! remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 328	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:21:00 - [8] - Quote CCP NEEDS to fix this as a buff to stealth players! remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5043	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:34:00 - [9] - Quote +1 I love this idea. It makes no sense that I have put so much effort into dampening my suit to avoid infantry only to be lit up on the map as soon as I get close to a null cannon. Besides, people will know I'm at the null cannon anyways as soon as it starts blinking on the mini map. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 687	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:38:00 - [10] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: 40 dB. Otherwise light suits could just put a few points in Dampening. Edit: But yes, Allow my scout to actually be stealthy around enemy objectives. +1 I definitely agree with this. Whatever it is now in terms of CRU / Null Cannon precision, it's downright ridiculous.

Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 633	Posted - 2013.11.11 22:49:00 - [11] - Quote I'm bumping this again. And maybe tone down the Blaster Installations for dampened suits? Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 331	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:04:00 - [12] - Quote Dominus Fatali wrote: I'm bumping this again. And maybe tone down the Blaster Installations for dampened suits? sounds like a great topic . such as installations aiming systems rely on DB for a rough accuracy of where the foe is. with this it could be harder for them to detect dampened suits, but easier for undampened suits making stealth play more viable than staying out of LOS and active scanners. remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 334	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:11:00 - [13] - Quote Stealth FTW! give all installations/objectives 40DB precision! remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
Hanns Olo RiP's Betaphase 5	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:34:00 - [14] - Quote Yes, i like +1
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 338	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:16:00 - [15] - Quote good Ideas aren't arguable, so this thread might hide from CCPs eyes! remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
failed merc 1	Posted - 2013.11.13 03:00:00 - [16] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: good Ideas aren't arguable, so this thread might hide from CCPs eyes! stealth's arguable in this game!
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 650	Posted - 2013.11.13 03:07:00 - [17] - Quote failed merc wrote: stealth's arguable in this game! That will hopefully be fixed with the introduction of stealth, more outposts like the science labs, and this. !
failed merc 1	Posted - 2013.11.13 06:20:00 - [18] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: failed merc wrote: stealth's arguable in this game! That will hopefully be fixed with the introduction of stealth, more outposts like the science labs, and this. that would be cool , me and my 1 like!
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 344	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:16:00 - [19] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: failed merc wrote: stealth's arguable in this game! That will hopefully be fixed with the introduction of stealth, more outposts like the science labs, and this. It would be nice to get cloaking CCP (hint)! remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field! from the non-existent mist! forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
failed merc 2	Posted - 2013.11.14 00:05:00 - [20] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: this has been killing me (and foes ) for awhile and so far I haven't seen anyone avoid the Null cannons or installation - even the proto scouts! so, just a small change with a major effect is to give Null cannons & installations a 44DB scan precision- that way light frames are no longer the scouts equal (UP equal) and any non-scout will have to equip dampeners to be stealthy. scouts have been dying unfairly (especially PROFILE DAMPENED ones) because they've been scanned to the entire enemy team, unknowingly but impossible to avoid. [EDIT] instead of 44DB, make it 40DB due to Kroms invisible insight revealed a major weakness in 44DB! +1 (will you give me 1 to?)

charlieDONTsurf Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:08:00 - [21] - Quote Bump and +1. The fact that your position is given away on the map, regardless of signature profile, every time you approach an enemy objective or installation doesn't make sense to me either. I agree that scouts and others sufficiently skilled and fitted for dampening should be able to avoid this and infiltrate enemy positions undetected.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 681	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:46:00 - [22] - Quote There is hope yet! Link CCP LogicLoop wrote: I will bring this up with the Game Designers and other Level Designers in our meeting this morning so as to at least begin a discussion on the topic or get an answer for you all on if this is intentional behaviour or not. "Assuming" I can get any information today, I will return in a few hours with any of that information that I can share. Edit: And to note, the replies to my information request were great. Thanks everybody. UPDATE: OK. According to the game designers this was intended behaviour. However they understand the lack of even notice of being scanned isn't quite balanced. So they are discussing on if they will remove this entirely or update its behaviour to be more balanced. !
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 351	Posted - 2013.11.15 23:34:00 - [23] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: There is hope yet! Link CCP LogicLoop wrote: I will bring this up with the Game Designers and other Level Designers in our meeting this morning so as to at least begin a discussion on the topic or get an answer for you all on if this is intentional behaviour or not. "Assuming" I can get any information today, I will return in a few hours with any of that information that I can share. Edit: And to note, the replies to my information request were great. Thanks everybody. UPDATE: OK. According to the game designers this was intended behaviour. However they understand the lack of even notice of being scanned isn't quite balanced. So they are discussing on if they will remove this entirely or update its behaviour to be more balanced. ty Become a scout today -- and die in 0.1 *seconds!!!*


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