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Thorgen Barr
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:42:00 -
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These past 2 days have been absolutely awful ... seriously .. half way through 6 hours of being protostomped yesterday I actually decided to go and wash up and clean the house because I wanted to do something fun .. that's right .. I turned to cleaning for fun because of DUST ...
PC / PFC - No problem at all with any gear being used its for the super serious peeps FW- With the new LP system due to be implemented again no problem as it is for the peeps who want to be immersed in new eden Pubgames- .. Really ? ... This as well ? So where do new players go then ?.. Academy- 1200 WP and you graduate ...
It's very easy to fix this problem .. restrict gear to a particular meta lvl that prevents prototype/BPO's and Aurum bought gear and don;t collate K/DR / WP / Win-loss ratio
We all know 99% of the people who protostomp do so to pad their stats in easy gamemodes where they are against players with a fraction of their sp and they outgear and outdamage them so I propose you do this
RESET THE LEADERBOARDS as punishment for all the months of protostomping to boost stats AND then do not track stats in pubgames at all .. you can go into pubgames to farm ISK/practise teamwork/test out dropsuit/vehicle fittings maybe try out a few weapons however there will be no benefit whatsoever for the current protostompers to actually run around in full proto just to pad stats like they do now
I'd love to see what the leaderboards would be like if you removed all the pubgames influences and just took into account FW and PC ... let's face it right now the leaderboards are just a list of who the biggest douchebags are ..
Really simple to do .. so get off you flipping lazy bottoms and do something about it
PS I'm sure i'm going to get some troll responses so be warned I will not reply to a troll post I will just instantly report it as a troll post |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:53:00 -
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doesnt matter if its proto or not ttk being so short now tank ability means nothing |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:54:00 -
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Don't bother, CCP wants people to PUB stomp
Heck, the next event is even gonna give black eagle scouts for every 10 kills you get with a PRO weapon.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:13:00 -
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Thorgen Barr wrote:These past 2 days have been absolutely awful ... seriously .. half way through 6 hours of being protostomped yesterday I actually decided to go and wash up and clean the house because I wanted to do something fun .. that's right .. I turned to cleaning for fun because of DUST ...
PC / PFC - No problem at all with any gear being used its for the super serious peeps FW- With the new LP system due to be implemented again no problem as it is for the peeps who want to be immersed in new eden Pubgames- .. Really ? ... This as well ? So where do new players go then ?.. Academy- 1200 WP and you graduate ...
It's very easy to fix this problem .. restrict gear to a particular meta lvl that prevents prototype/BPO's and Aurum bought gear and don;t collate K/DR / WP / Win-loss ratio
We all know 99% of the people who protostomp do so to pad their stats in easy gamemodes where they are against players with a fraction of their sp and they outgear and outdamage them so I propose you do this
RESET THE LEADERBOARDS as punishment for all the months of protostomping to boost stats AND then do not track stats in pubgames at all .. you can go into pubgames to farm ISK/practise teamwork/test out dropsuit/vehicle fittings maybe try out a few weapons however there will be no benefit whatsoever for the current protostompers to actually run around in full proto just to pad stats like they do now
I'd love to see what the leaderboards would be like if you removed all the pubgames influences and just took into account FW and PC ... let's face it right now the leaderboards are just a list of who the biggest douchebags are ..
Really simple to do .. so get off you flipping lazy bottoms and do something about it
PS I'm sure i'm going to get some troll responses so be warned I will not reply to a troll post I will just instantly report it as a troll post
This would fix it.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Acturus Galaxy
Happy Pumpkin
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:14:00 -
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you are correct, there has been a rise in the number of proto stomps but also the number really great matches where both teams field expensive equipment. Personally I only use proto equipment when the match is close and I see our team need a little more power to turn the match in our favor.
I recommend you, skill into heavy and forge gun, a basic heavy with a forge gun is cheap, do not require that much isk and you can practice some forge sniping against the proto squad. Skill into a cheap scout suit and run around at the etches of the fighting to avoid the proto squad whom usually stick together in a blob
Avoid ambush matches, these are the most proto infected matches. Pick skirmish, the proto are rare here and it is easier to avoid the proto blob, get points by hacking etc. |
Thorgen Barr
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:22:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:you are correct, there has been a rise in the number of proto stomps but also the number really great matches where both teams field expensive equipment. Personally I only use proto equipment when the match is close and I see our team need a little more power to turn the match in our favor.
I recommend you, skill into heavy and forge gun, a basic heavy with a forge gun is cheap, do not require that much isk and you can practice some forge sniping against the proto squad. Skill into a cheap scout suit and run around at the etches of the fighting to avoid the proto squad whom usually stick together in a blob
Avoid ambush matches, these are the most proto infected matches. Pick skirmish, the proto are rare here and it is easier to avoid the proto blob, get points by hacking etc.
I just want a gamemode that's fun
I'm 4 months in and still getting protostomped constantly (I'm a logi who actually uses equipment and equipment costs alot of SP so I don;t have a proto suit yet) and If I could go back and tell myself what it would be liek nearly 4 months later I;d have gone .. to hell with that i'll go play something else
You have no idea just how terrible this game has been for me ... I've had no respite from the protostomping at all for 4 months and the past 2 days have taken it to a whole new level and I honestly am in the mindset now that if we don;t get a full respec in 1.7 so i can ditch the logi and put all the sp into assault and go proto then i'm out of here because I'm not going to spend another 2 months getting protostomped every game before I can play on a level playing field |
IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:30:00 -
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Thorgen Barr wrote:These past 2 days have been absolutely awful ... seriously .. half way through 6 hours of being protostomped yesterday I actually decided to go and wash up and clean the house because I wanted to do something fun .. that's right .. I turned to cleaning for fun because of DUST ...
My Mrs always wants me to clean the house because of Dust
Sorry could not resist it
back on topic i agree this is looking to be the worst week of Dust so far |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:38:00 -
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in the two hours i played last night i'd say that at least 80% of my deaths were to proto weapons, the majority of which being duvolles AR, the only reason i'm still playing this week is to raise funds for judge rhadamanthus and to get SMG 5, otherwise there is very little enjoyment in this game right now.
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2029
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Don't bother, CCP wants people to PUB stomp
Heck, the next event is even gonna give black eagle scouts for every 10 kills you get with a PRO weapon. 5 kills, and with the black eagle suit on. :P
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
Fix my scout already
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:52:00 -
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It's been said over and over again- meta-based matchmaking is the answer. CCP really gives less ***** about the playerbase though. If I didn't know better, I'd say they're either A) stupid or B) purposely trying to kill the game.
Every event in Uprising, spare for a single one, has been awful. They're always bent towards the people with no lives and no shame in using proto against militia. If you really don't believe these last few sentence, you should relook this month's events. I, for one, am not taking part of it. I'll not be part of the problem.
If you think Plasma Rifles take skill to use and are fine as they are, you are the problem.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
428
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:59:00 -
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Week 4 event is the official proto stomp week.
Sorry to say many players have been arguing for a meta level, or alternative, match making system for quite a while now. |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:06:00 -
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If youre getting protostomped yust go sniping from redline it works for me.
Or yust sit in LLAV and try to run over people :)
Alot of hate mail love that |
Acturus Galaxy
Happy Pumpkin
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:12:00 -
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Thorgen Barr wrote: I just want a gamemode that's fun
I'm 4 months in and still getting protostomped constantly (I'm a logi who actually uses equipment and equipment costs alot of SP so I don;t have a proto suit yet) and If I could go back and tell myself what it would be liek nearly 4 months later I;d have gone .. to hell with that i'll go play something else
You have no idea just how terrible this game has been for me ... I've had no respite from the protostomping at all for 4 months and the past 2 days have taken it to a whole new level and I honestly am in the mindset now that if we don;t get a full respec in 1.7 so i can ditch the logi and put all the sp into assault and go proto then i'm out of here because I'm not going to spend another 2 months getting protostomped every game before I can play on a level playing field
Yesterday I wanted to test some new scout builds as I skilling into scout. I counted 8 matches in a row where I was put on teams with random players vs teams with at least 8 members running proto. My skinny scout was constantly one shoot killed by Thales and charge snipers. That was extremely frustrating. I can avoid advanced scanners and constantly met teams with proto scanners.
I have also seen some of the regular proto stomping squads have actually begun to run in advanced gear and some of the former previous infamous proto stomp corp squads are becoming a rare sight.
Stick by your logi, that is the most versatile role when you wish to help your team and not yet have the equipment to go against proto equipped squads. You have the basic medium frames to use for assault when you need to practice the gun game and not loose too much isk dying in the logi suit.
Find a good corp to join as the friends you can make in the corp makes you come back to Dust, not the game play itself, but the interaction with the other corp members. Enter matches with your corp friends and have lots of fun, not necessarily to copy the proto stompers but have fun messing around. And it feels good to have 5 others to listen to your rage when you for the hundreds time are shot by a Thale sniper
EDIT: I would gladly accept your app to my corporation, 0% tax |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:13:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:doesnt matter if its proto or not ttk being so short now tank ability means nothing keep thinking that, you're padding my stats.
The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:48:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Atiim wrote:Don't bother, CCP wants people to PUB stomp
Heck, the next event is even gonna give black eagle scouts for every 10 kills you get with a PRO weapon. 5 kills, and with the black eagle suit on. :P 5 KILLS?!
That's even worse.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:54:00 -
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I spent the majority of yesterday in my full BPO Dren Logistics, standard AR and militia fittings. I died a bit more but tended to be near the top for WP. Unless I pulled out my sniper fit and then I was horrid and useless.
AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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CRYPT3C W0LF
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Don't bother, CCP wants people to PUB stomp
Heck, the next event is even gonna give black eagle scouts for every 10 kills you get with a PRO weapon.
Quafe Dropsuit* |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:02:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I spent the majority of yesterday in my full BPO Dren Logistics, standard AR and militia fittings. I died a bit more but tended to be near the top for WP. Unless I pulled out my sniper fit and then I was horrid and useless.
Heh. I deleted all my fits and will rebuild everything BPO.
Sever, Dragonfly and Covenant. Got it all covered. Come at me u basterds!
Seriously, knowing I can`t compete at the moment, why waste ISK? Few more deaths don`t matter.
Rude people can go fuck themselves.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1759
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:15:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:I spent the majority of yesterday in my full BPO Dren Logistics, standard AR and militia fittings. I died a bit more but tended to be near the top for WP. Unless I pulled out my sniper fit and then I was horrid and useless. Heh. I deleted all my fits and will rebuild everything BPO. Sever, Dragonfly and Covenant. Got it all covered. Come at me u basterds! Seriously, knowing I can`t compete at the moment, why waste ISK? Few more deaths don`t matter.
Awesome. I find that when I'm running free or very cheap suits that I take a lot more risks and do much better. I never cared about KDR so it works out.
AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:42:00 -
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You are probably very new. Perhaps you need some help? Join the Learning Coalition chat channel. Youlltbe tactically pjbstomping before you know it. Teamwork is OP
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Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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GRIM GEAR
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:29:00 -
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I think you are just using dust and cleaning as an excuse to prolong (procrastinate) having to do something you have yet to mention |
Thorgen Barr
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:30:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:You are probably very new. Perhaps you need some help? Join the Learning Coalition chat channel. Youlltbe tactically pjbstomping before you know it. Teamwork is OP
This is an Alt
This character is 4 months old and my old main (it was a sniper with a scout suit so i abandoned it and started again) is 11 months old .. I was here in Beta
Anyway .. even if I was new why would that make my opinion any less valid ?
The fact is 6 people in standard and adv using teamwork v 6 guys in full proto using teamwork means that the whole teamwork being OP thing is nullified. Teamwork is NOT the counter to a protosquad pubstomping in proto gear.
I don;t class running in pubgames in a squad using STD/ADV gear as pubstomping my issue is people using proto in pubgames
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